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As spectulated when Olshey was canned, certainly feels like Portland may be "open for business" as we approach the deadline.

Some really interesting assets of different types on that roster: Dame (who I can't really see Celts going for/getting); McCollum; Powell; Nurkic; Covington; Nance.

Given Celts exceptions, breadth of salaries, and need to get better can see a lot of combinations there, though "what is Portland trying to accomplish" remains the big question: I'd imagine they will blow it all up, but easily could do some form of re-load instead (which I don't believe can work for them, but given new owner and new GM incoming can't be ruled out)

For me, Powell is a potentially great fit for Celtics - as would be Nance. Though I believe Powell is locked up restriction-wise unitl offseason
I'm with you, especially on Powell (or Nance) both could fit with the C's TPE, so don't necessarily have to match (which PDX may find interesting w/ their salary at $142MM this season). Powell is ~41% from 3 over the last 4 seasons combined.

Not sure what PDX is going to do but if blow up is in play, the C's have some youngsters/draft picks that may interest them

according to this ESPN article, Powell is JAN. 15 trade eligible

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/32753924/every-nba-player-becomes-eligible-traded-dec-15-ahead-nba-trade-deadline
 

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So, one source noted this about Powell's timing:

Norman Powell cannot be traded until March 3rd because he re-signed using Bird rights with a 20% raise in salary and the Trail Blazers are over the cap

That is separate from the Dec 15 thing. This is now beyond where I am currently on cap stuff so hopefully someone else has clarity.
 

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So, one source noted this about Powell's timing:

Norman Powell cannot be traded until March 3rd because he re-signed using Bird rights with a 20% raise in salary and the Trail Blazers are over the cap

That is separate from the Dec 15 thing. This is now beyond where I am currently on cap stuff so hopefully someone else has clarity.
And the trade deadline is February 10th, so...
 

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So, one source noted this about Powell's timing:

Norman Powell cannot be traded until March 3rd because he re-signed using Bird rights with a 20% raise in salary and the Trail Blazers are over the cap

That is separate from the Dec 15 thing. This is now beyond where I am currently on cap stuff so hopefully someone else has clarity.
Powell doesn’t make much sense to me. He’s a poor fit for our defensive system as one of the primary contributors to the Blazers being horrific on that end. know this sounds like a Willie McGee thing but whose minutes would be replace?
 

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He's a good man to man defender, though unclear how good he'd be in a switch scheme, that's fair. He's short, but long-armed---6-11 wingspan. Having been successfull with Nurse I sort of assume he's done it all defensively.

To me he's essentially a better version of Richardson---with the difference being that Powell is a plus or plus-plus outside shooter which is a current gap. That's the reason to do the deal (and I would assume Richardson is dealt as well in that scenario, though in theory could possibly deal Grant instead). You do take on a somewhat ugly longer-term contract so you have to believe in the fit for sure.

If I could identify a plus distributor that would be my first choice but I can't get the deal together...
 

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My guess is that if the C's were to get involved in any PDX trade talks, it would be for someone like Covington - he will almost certainly get moved given that he is an expiring. The demand for his services is likely to be very high from the top contenders.

I also think they kick the tires on Lillard if he becomes available but I suspect I am on an island there. I don't see them going after McCollum given his contract and weaknesses. I know there are Nance Jr. fans here and I count myself amongst them but the fit there seems less obvious - whose minutes does Nance replace and to what end?
 

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POR getting a new GM, and PHI languishing might mean we finally get the CJ/Simons/pick for Simmons deal that everyone has thought made sense for months.
 

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POR getting a new GM, and PHI languishing might mean we finally get the CJ/Simons/pick for Simmons deal that everyone has thought made sense for months.
agreed. Simmon's/Morey drama could last to Feb 10 but a CJ/Curry outside duo would be good with Embiid covering for them defensively
 

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So, one source noted this about Powell's timing:

Norman Powell cannot be traded until March 3rd because he re-signed using Bird rights with a 20% raise in salary and the Trail Blazers are over the cap

That is separate from the Dec 15 thing. This is now beyond where I am currently on cap stuff so hopefully someone else has clarity.
There is no such restriction in the CBA. January 15th is the date that Powell can be traded.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q101

  • For three months or until January 15 of that season (whichever is later) after re-signing a free agent with Larry Bird or Early Bird rights, if the team is over the cap, the player's new salary is above the minimum, and he receives a raise greater than 20%.
 

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Powell doesn’t make much sense to me. He’s a poor fit for our defensive system as one of the primary contributors to the Blazers being horrific on that end. know this sounds like a Willie McGee thing but whose minutes would be replace?
PDX defense has been rotten for 3yrs running, after 47 games there it's Norman Powell's fault?

before Powell, it was Gary Trent Jrs fault

and I'm sure Enes Kanter was the reason they were horrible defensively last season

after he was fired, we were assured it was Terry Stott's fault

A lot of excuses out of Portland, but CJ and Dame don't give a damn about D and they are the team leaders
 

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I'd take Normal Powell. Don't really care if his D is an issue. The C's could use some offensive minded players and Powell can shoot. He'd be here for awhile too. They'd find minutes for him. I also don't see him being dealt for just an exception but that's another matter. I guess if they're main objective is to shed salary above all else.

Don't see where Nance, Jr fits. Don't know what he really brings to the table that the C's lack either.

Basically, Powell or bust. Unless Simmons is available for some stupid reason.

Edit: Normal Powell and Average Al. Get it done.
 

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Nance Jr would fit into GW's minutes pretty well, he's longer and more athletic, but not as good a shooter as Grant has been this year. Christian Wood would really fit there, but I can't think of a reason Houston would trade him.

Finding minutes for Powell means no minutes for Langford or Nesmith, or running a smurfy lineup. I guess if you really think we're contending a veteran shooter makes the most sense. Not as good as Wood though.

Maybe we need a fake trade thread.
 

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There are all sorts of trades to propose but the reality is that the headlines out of PDX (the Athletic today seems to be signaling that they are open to radically reshaping the roster via both Hollinger and Shams/Amick pieces) suggest that they may actually be making moves.

Furthermore, absent a big deal such as the one people envision between the Wizards and Cs if Beal comes on the market, the C's don't really have the ammo to be too opportunistic. In short, they are likely looking to add at the margins unless people want to entertain moving significant roster pieces for Wood (I would not move Jaylen for Wood and I doubt others here would like that deal - but I suspect that might be the ask something like Jaylen for Wood+. If Houston is thinking more young pieces, that's another conversation).

In short, we can construct trades for draft binkies such as all the players that were taken after Danny's picks. Those players aren't really differentiators though. So absent a deal that is transformative in terms of top end talent, the Cs should be looking at deals that get them ideally a combo of more distribution and scoring or at least some of the latter, while not sacrificing their defensive integrity too much. At least that is how I see their roster gaps.
 

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Nance Jr would fit into GW's minutes pretty well, he's longer and more athletic, but not as good a shooter as Grant has been this year. Christian Wood would really fit there, but I can't think of a reason Houston would trade him.

Finding minutes for Powell means no minutes for Langford or Nesmith, or running a smurfy lineup. I guess if you really think we're contending a veteran shooter makes the most sense. Not as good as Wood though.

Maybe we need a fake trade thread.
I'm the one saying this so I have to imagine almost everyone agrees given my stance on Grant Williams... I prefer Grant Williams to Nance. Honestly, at this point, you shouldn't be looking to replace Grant's minutes anyway. You should be trying to guarantee him 25 mpg when everyone is back and healthy. He's the closest thing to a sharpshooter that the team has (ignoring Jays). He's also been very good at the role and while I doubt he's going to continue shooting .432, since the playoffs in 19/20, he is 95/231, .411 from 3. That's a good enough sample size for me to feel comfortable projecting him to be around at least a .370ish shooter. On his current volume, that's fine. If he's closer to .400, he's basically the guy who is a threat to hit 4 3s on any given night. He's already done so twice this year, in addition to having 3 an additional 5 times. That's 7 out of 24 games with 3+ 3s. 5 of those have come in the last 12, where he's been playing 26.6 mpg.

I dunno, I've been defending Grant Williams all year long and I feel like I shouldn't be. The last few weeks, people have really warmed up to him again though and seems everyone is on board with him being the 8th man and getting more minutes.


I know people are high on Romeo, but I think his minutes could be replaced. I wouldn't replace them with Nance. I'd be up for moving Langford in a deal for Powell, though it might take 2 separate deals. People keep commenting on his improved shooting and how his corner shot is a big thing for the C's, but through 24 games this year, Romeo is 8/21 from corner 3s. He's also only had 36 3PA for the year. I'm not entirely sold yet. I also doubt there's anyone who thinks Romeo is in Powell's class as a shooter/scorer/offensive player but I could be wrong. Powell's D was also more than passable in Toronto so some of it is definitely playing alongside 2 players who don't play D and even if they did, wouldn't be very good at it anyway.

For reference, Grant is 21/39 from corner 3 this year. He also has 81 total 3PA. Romeo's 3.9 3PA/36 is only ahead of Freedom and TL. It's 0.6 behind JRich and 1.2 behind Shroder and Smart. 0.2 behind Jabari Parker. To be fair, sometimes players build up the accuracy before they add the volume. That and if he continues to hit 3s, he'll get more opportunities to do so. Grant himself went from 3.3 3PA/36 to 4.1 to 5.5. For a true "sharpshooter" type Grant would be between 7-8 but not everyone can have a Joe Harris and teammates play a role too.

Anyway, this team shouldn't be actively looking to replace Grant Williams minutes. Especially not with Larry Nance, Jr. I can't see it unless Grant is part of a bigger deal or if he's dealt for a player of equal value but a better fit. The latter deals almost never happen. This team should be looking to add a shooter/scorer without subtracting from the core 7 and ideally keeping on to Grant in the process. I'd probably move Grant Williams in a deal for Norman Powell if the Blazers insisted. I'm going to guess Powell has a bit more value than Evan due to being signed for 4 more years after this one. For trades, is Powell's salary for this year the figure they use? I'm pretty sure it is. 15.5 isn't hard to match. With the 25% rule (that's a thing right?) I'm pretty sure Juancho, RL, PP gets there. If it doesn't, you can always add Bruno or Jabari. I don't really know what Powell would go for. Maybe some would balk at RL+PP, whereas I'd might add a first. I think Powell fits this team nicely though. Only slight concern I have is his age. He's under contract until age 33.
 
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There are all sorts of trades to propose but the reality is that the headlines out of PDX (the Athletic today seems to be signaling that they are open to radically reshaping the roster via both Hollinger and Shams/Amick pieces) suggest that they may actually be making moves.

Furthermore, absent a big deal such as the one people envision between the Wizards and Cs if Beal comes on the market, the C's don't really have the ammo to be too opportunistic. In short, they are likely looking to add at the margins unless people want to entertain moving significant roster pieces for Wood (I would not move Jaylen for Wood and I doubt others here would like that deal - but I suspect that might be the ask something like Jaylen for Wood+. If Houston is thinking more young pieces, that's another conversation).

In short, we can construct trades for draft binkies such as all the players that were taken after Danny's picks. Those players aren't really differentiators though. So absent a deal that is transformative in terms of top end talent, the Cs should be looking at deals that get them ideally a combo of more distribution and scoring or at least some of the latter, while not sacrificing their defensive integrity too much. At least that is how I see their roster gaps.
If they can get Powell at a reduced price, I think they totally should. Outside of that, meh. Jaylen for Wood is a disaster of a trade. I wouldn't be 100% opposed to adding Wood to the Jays if the price were right.

There's no upside in trading Brown for Wood. I guess if Wood came attached with Jalen Green and picks. Makes no sense for either team. I'm not really interested in anyone on the Rockets roster really.
 

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Zero chance Jaylen Brown is offered for Christian Wood (who I like). It would just be a collection of young player(s) + pick(s) + TPE. 90% chance Rockets get a better offer elsewhere

Adding guys like Powell, Wood, Nance wouldn't really replace anyones' minutes since injuries will happen and rest will be needed. Our top 7 are already playing sizeable minutes.

Portland might just want picks/young players if they go into BLOW UP mode. The TPE is nice since the C's could send them something like a protected 1st + Pritchard + Begarin. No matching is necessary. PDX tries to get back under the cap and collects a TPE for next season

The other night was just the 2nd time this team has shot over 40% from the 3 this season. The Celtics need a 3pt shooter
 

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The TPE is nice since the C's could send them something like a protected 1st + Pritchard + Begarin. No matching is necessary. PDX tries to get back under the cap and collects a TPE for next season
C's would have to be willing to pay a huge tax this year and next. They aren't really in a position to absorb a $15 million salary for this year, and 16.8 for next.
 

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C's would have to be willing to pay a huge tax this year and next. They aren't really in a position to absorb a $15 million salary for this year, and 16.8 for next.
depends on how real they think their chances are, at some point they are going to get real expensive for numerous seasons

December should provide Brad with a nice litmus test
 

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depends on how real they think their chances are, at some point they are going to get real expensive for numerous seasons
Thinking outside the box, Horford for Powell and Nurkic would work well for Boston financially and would save Portland a bit of money, too. Something with that as the base would be interesting. It will also never happen.
 

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Thinking outside the box, Horford for Powell and Nurkic would work well for Boston financially and would save Portland a bit of money, too. Something with that as the base would be interesting. It will also never happen.
yea good point, using Horford's contract may come in handy to save $$$

may get pushback since Al drank from the Fountain of OKC last season
 

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yea good point, using Horford's contract may come in handy to save $$$

may get pushback since Al drank from the Fountain of OKC last season
Perhaps it makes no sense financially for the team, but I'd love to see Al retire as a Celtic. He sees like a fantastic teammate and a class act all the way around.
 

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yea good point, using Horford's contract may come in handy to save $$$

may get pushback since Al drank from the Fountain of OKC last season
Yeah, I'd get the pushback. I think some of it would be offset by also getting Nurkic, and Nurkic coming off the books after this season. It would save the C's like $11 million next year over having Al too. After 22/23, having Powell on board for another 3 years isn't an issue cap wise. Portland would do it to shed Powell's contract and maybe even cut Horford and save another $12 mil if they chose to do so.

I like Al and he's been good this year. I do worry about some drop off next year though. It would require finding another big for the 22/23 season too.

Hell, if one wants to dream, one could use Horford's salary to acquire Powell and Wood. Could dump off Juancho in the process. Of course, there'd have to be a lot of other parts but the financial structure is there. Thing is, the C's may actually have enough assets to pull a deal like this off but they'd have nothing tradable for the next 5 years. They'd be locked into their roster. I also might be undervaluing Wood and Powell's trade market but I'd guess both can be acquired for less than the price of a deserving max player.

Romeo, Nesmith, Grant, PP and picks could probably net both. Maybe the Horford contract derails things.

edit: In a scenario where Portland did cut Al, he could always come back to Boston for 22/23 too. At a far reduced price.
 

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Honestly have no clue what a Christian Wood would go for. I don't see any team offering a package of picks or a pick swap. I don't see any team offering any unprotected picks. Maybe a team would trade a mid to late lottery pick on draft night?

When non star players get traded, they usually are up for FA or they get traded in a package for someone better. What kind of offers does Wood realistically get? Good teams don't have many Keldon Johnson types around and bad teams aren't trading Keldon Johnson.

edit: Wood only has a year left so there have been some non stars in that situation. Can't think of any comps for Powell but I"m sure there are. Non star with 4+ years left, who just signed his contract, and still performing at his peak being traded for.
 

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Honestly have no clue what a Christian Wood would go for. I don't see any team offering a package of picks or a pick swap. I don't see any team offering any unprotected picks. Maybe a team would trade a mid to late lottery pick on draft night?

When non star players get traded, they usually are up for FA or they get traded in a package for someone better. What kind of offers does Wood realistically get? Good teams don't have many Keldon Johnson types around and bad teams aren't trading Keldon Johnson.

edit: Wood only has a year left so there have been some non stars in that situation. Can't think of any comps for Powell but I"m sure there are. Non star with 4+ years left, who just signed his contract, and still performing at his peak being traded for.
Wood has a lot of TL in his game, not the athlete but more skilled. I think guys like him and Powell are high-level complementary players that would take the C's to another level.

I would try to keep Grant. I know there is a general feeling that he's a low-ceiling player, but I think his 3pt stroke is real/repeatable and the release is getting quicker. He did a dribble, step back above the break which was new.
 
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Wood has a lot of TL in his game, not the athlete but more skilled. I think guys like him and Powell are high-level complementary players that would take the C's to another level.

I would try to keep Grant. I know there is a general feeling that he's a low-ceiling player, but I think his 3pt stroke is real/repeatable and the release is getting quicker. He did a dribble, step back above the break which was new.
Yeah, but would you let Grant get in the way of getting Wood or Powell? Never mind both. I'd like to keep him too but at this point, other teams will probably be asking for him in any deal with the C's.

Like, I wouldn't be shocked if Grant has more trade value around the league than Romeo. Never mind Nesmith.
 

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If they can get Powell at a reduced price, I think they totally should. Outside of that, meh. Jaylen for Wood is a disaster of a trade. I wouldn't be 100% opposed to adding Wood to the Jays if the price were right.

There's no upside in trading Brown for Wood. I guess if Wood came attached with Jalen Green and picks. Makes no sense for either team. I'm not really interested in anyone on the Rockets roster really.
There is no reduced price though when we would be paying $20m a year for 4+ seasons to replace Romeo’s second unit minites? This doesn’t make any fiscal sense whatsoever. I’m not sure I’d want to be attached to that deal in our cap/tax situation if he was free.
 

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There is no reduced price though when we would be paying $20m a year for 4+ seasons to replace Romeo’s second unit minites? This doesn’t make any fiscal sense whatsoever.
If you think he'd only get 18 minutes a game, it doesn't. I think he'd play a bit more than that. And I meant reduced price as in the assets required to get him. Not cap wise. Cap wise, it really only makes sense if you are moving some 22/23 salary in the process.

Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to a Richardson (and any filler if necessary, Bruno) for Powell swap either. I just like what Powell would bring to the team and for a 6'3 dude, he's pretty long with a 6'11 wingspan and 8'6 standing reach. Is that even right? +8 on a 6'3 dude? Damn. He's just a different look offensively than the DS/Smart/JRich contingent.

None of it really matters because if Portland wants to rebuild/save money, they could find a 1st round pick and some expiring contracts for him. C's won't have room to sign a max guy anytime soon anyway and he'd give them another tradable contract as well. Or at least replace the one he was traded for.

Come January/the deadline, there may be better options at shooter. There's no rush to make a deal now and Norm isn't available until mid January.
 

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I get the theoretical Larry Nance, but I don't see how the actual Larry Nance is better than this year's Grant. He's a much worse shooter, with no room to grow there. He doesn't really make plays in space, so you're just getting a worse version of TL for rim-running. On defense, he actually blocks fewer shots than Grant does, and isn't as good at guarding perimeter players.

I get the appeal of a bigger PF who can play smallball 5, defend the perimeter on switches, and shoot some, but Nance isn't that guy afaict.
 

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If you think he'd only get 18 minutes a game, it doesn't. I think he'd play a bit more than that. And I meant reduced price as in the assets required to get him. Not cap wise. Cap wise, it really only makes sense if you are moving some 22/23 salary in the process.

Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to a Richardson (and any filler if necessary, Bruno) for Powell swap either. I just like what Powell would bring to the team and for a 6'3 dude, he's pretty long with a 6'11 wingspan and 8'6 standing reach. Is that even right? +8 on a 6'3 dude? Damn. He's just a different look offensively than the DS/Smart/JRich contingent.
Powell is only 6-3? I'd never bothered to look it up, but I always thought he was 6-5 or 6-6. He plays bigger than 6-3.

I'm a fan, too.
 

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I get the theoretical Larry Nance, but I don't see how the actual Larry Nance is better than this year's Grant. He's a much worse shooter, with no room to grow there. He doesn't really make plays in space, so you're just getting a worse version of TL for rim-running. On defense, he actually blocks fewer shots than Grant does, and isn't as good at guarding perimeter players.

I get the appeal of a bigger PF who can play smallball 5, defend the perimeter on switches, and shoot some, but Nance isn't that guy afaict.
Nance is a good player that theoretically they'd get cheap (TPE candidate + young player/2nds) w/a PDX blow up.
It's not really a statement on Grant, who is playing himself into starter minutes. It's more about adding good players because injuries happen, #41 needs a bus ticket out of town and PBS may start consolidating picks/young players

We'll see how December plays out, maybe this team goes into GFIN mode and deals Grant+++ as part of a larger deal to get that 3rd star? it would be nice to have Nance then.

I can see 9 potential sellers at the moment (+ there's a few .500 pretenders that will fade by Feb 10):
Portland, OKC, Detroit, Houston, NOP, Sac, SAS, Orlando, Indiana
 

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He's a much better fit on other teams that might be shopping though.
Sure, any team that's a contender would want Nance since he's cheap, controlled, plays D, and is an efficient rotational player.

Kind of why I'd like the C's add him, esp. if Brad starts consolidating young uns (Grant/Romeo/PP/Nesmith/Bruno) to land that elusive white whale

But the odds are one of the other 15 buyers land him before Boston if PDX sells
 
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Kind of why I'd like the C's add him, esp. if Brad starts consolidating young uns (Grant/Romeo/PP/Nesmith/Bruno) to land that elusive white whale
The problem is that the Celtics don't really have minutes for Nance unless they trade Grant. So it's a conditional move.

I could see another team (e.g. the Bulls, but plenty of others) getting more mileage out of him as a rotational F/C, where their depth isn't as good.
 

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The problem is that the Celtics don't really have minutes for Nance unless they trade Grant. So it's a conditional move.

I could see another team (e.g. the Bulls, but plenty of others) getting more mileage out of him as a rotational F/C, where their depth isn't as good.
Injuries would probably drive the buyer. The Bulls are pretty deep, after a bunch of excellent off-season additions.

Still have bad memories from last season when medical Celtics were forced to play Semi, Tremont Waters, Carsen Edwards, & Luke Kornet real minuteso_O
 

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Injuries would probably drive the buyer. The Bulls are pretty deep, after a bunch of excellent off-season additions.
They have great wings, but they are running out Tony Bradley and Alize Johnson behind Vucevic. I get wanting more depth, but Nance is expensive so any acquiring team would have to have a pressing need for his services.
 

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They have great wings, but they are running out Tony Bradley and Alize Johnson behind Vucevic. I get wanting more depth, but Nance is expensive so any acquiring team would have to have a pressing need for his services.
Agreed, good point. They could use some frontcourt size/bulk, especially after losing Patrick Williams. They have enough scoring so Nance would tuck in nicely.

I think there is a good chance they dangle Coby White in a deal, who could land a guy like Nance + other pieces
 

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Agreed, good point. They could use some frontcourt size/bulk, especially after losing Patrick Williams. They have enough scoring so Nance would tuck in nicely.

I think there is a good chance they dangle Coby White in a deal, who could land a guy like Nance + other pieces
So Portland can run out a death lineup of Dame, CJ, Coby White, Anfernee Simons, and Norman Powell?
 

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So Portland can run out a death lineup of Dame, CJ, Coby White, Anfernee Simons, and Norman Powell?
when Trader Danny returns to RIP City they'll be running out a

Ben Simmons/Coby White/Wiggins/Wiseman/Poole, and whatever bits n bobs they collect from Powell/Nurkic/Covington.

Congrats on finally landing Dame!

I'm here for the Portland BLOW UP
 

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when Trader Danny returns to RIP City they'll be running out a

Ben Simmons/Coby White/Wiggins/Wiseman/Poole, and whatever bits n bobs they collect from Powell/Nurkic/Covington.

Congrats on finally landing Dame!

I'm here for the Portland BLOW UP
Hah. Marginally better than the Kemba deal you guys were trying to sell me, but I'm not sure I trust Dame's core issues, or the ability of Steph+Dame not to get absolutely roasted defensively (solid as Steph has become on D).

In some alt universe, Dame coming home to the Bay would have been a great story...

I LOVE that Portland roster, tho!
 

benhogan

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Hah. Marginally better than the Kemba deal you guys were trying to sell me, but I'm not sure I trust Dame's core issues, or the ability of Steph+Dame not to get absolutely roasted defensively (solid as Steph has become on D).

In some alt universe, Dame coming home to the Bay would have been a great story...

I LOVE that Portland roster, tho!
caught the Dubs last night, the party is back on.

can you blame us for trying to offload Kemba before the end of year 1?

if Klay never makes it back, maybe he's the fill that brings back Dame
 

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I know Brogdon and McConnell are restricted, but if the Pacers blow it up, shouldn’t those guys be on the block too?
 

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Sabonis to the Spurs just has to happen.

Vassell, Young (expiring), 2022 unprotected, 2023 swap, 2024 unprotected
It would be nuts for Spurs to trade that many picks for Sabonis, in my view, given where they are. He's a nice fit, but they are not that close.
 

Cesar Crespo

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It would be nuts for Spurs to trade that many picks for Sabonis, in my view, given where they are. He's a nice fit, but they are not that close.
It would be nuts for anyone to offer that package. Sabonis is great, but he's not that level of player.
 

HomeRunBaker

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Powell is only 6-3? I'd never bothered to look it up, but I always thought he was 6-5 or 6-6. He plays bigger than 6-3.

I'm a fan, too.
Powell measured out at 6-4 without shoes at the Combine. I don’t expect him to be playing barefoot so naturally he’ll play bigger but he also has a 6-11 wingspan to work with as well. I still don’t see the fit here either with his skillset but also with that contract for the role he’d have here.