That's what I was thinking when I heard this rumor last night. If I knew that I were getting SGA and Green for sure, I'd think about sending Cade. Otherwise, no way from a Detroit POV. They sold a shitload of tickets on lottery night. SGA plus Bouknight/Kuminga doesn't sell tickets, but Cade does.
There’s nothing they can give Houston to make a trade of Cunningham/Green palatable. Not even their draft picks back because the entire point of the picks is to actually get someone like Cunningham/Green. Maybe they could supply Toronto or Cleveland with enough #1s to swap #6 for #3 or #4? That would be the one opening I could see.
1.Draft the Bleighjenbergenator
maybe if Toronto tossed in pick swaps Morey says yes
My guess is that PHI was sending Harris to TOR as well, only thing that would make sense based on salaries
Yes and yes. And the other talk platform is no better, perhaps worse.maybe if Toronto tossed in pick swaps Morey says yes
There is more editorial control around here. WEEI is crap
The only problem is that Adams was awful last year & paying him 2/$35m is not a feature.
SGA might become disgruntled real quick if he has to keep getting shut down to aid the tank. Maybe they want to get ahead of the curve on that.
The Pelicans defensive intensity all season under Van Gundy was pathetic. How much of that is on Adam’s? Opponents shot 38% from 3. I don’t think Adam’s began sucking at 27 in a new system with new teammates. More then anything he’s a system guy and nobody on that team was playing within a strong system under Van Gundy......which is why he was fired. Most importantly for the Grizzlies they get a physical body to avoid JJJ playing against a certain number of pure 5’s and getting beat up.
The Pels being significantly worse with Adams on the floor isn't a great look, no matter how disastrous they were overall.
My point was that Adam’s is a “fit” guy and not an influencer. Of course a big can be exposed on switches at times but why was his team 2nd best in the league the prior year in Def 3-pt %? As I said, I doubt he began regressing at an age when he should be entering his prime in the right system and the right role. Going from a guy like Donovan who connects with his players and has a disciplined defensive system to whatever that was SVG was doing last year had to have been a culture shock to him.
I'll lay off slamming the Grizz for now but this was a GREAT deal for the Pelicans. They unloaded ~72MM + 4yrs of lackluster play and got a good/cheap player in Valanciunas.
Well, the amazing thing is the guy who intentionally acquired those contracts & the lol $20m for 1 year coach who utilized them, still had a job enabling him to give up draft capital to get off those contracts.
did anyone here say or imply "David Griffin is actually good at his job"?
The Griffin question/tangent was a bit of a nonseqitur. I think he's probably going to waste this cap space on overpaying Kyle Lowry to sneak into the playoffs to save his job rather than building a long-term team around Zion though, & just muck things up more.
sure, I have no idea what DG will do next. But if I squint I could see the Pels having a max spot available next Summer by moving Lonzo in a S+T for an asset in the next month.
And the main cost is trading down in the flat portion of a pretty damn flat draft after 5 or so. Fucking swindle imo.
This sentiment is similar to Justin Verrier’s recent piece in the Ringer that is also critical of Griffin and makes the case that New Orleans is falling into the same trap they did with Davis, focusing too much on trying to win now rather than building long term around their young star: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/7/27/22595749/zion-williamson-anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans
Beal seems to be the only semi-timeline-appropriate guy who fits that description.
That +/- change is almost all Adams.
Teams don't necessarily agree with that flatness - reporting is the Knicks have been trying to trade 19 & 21 to move up & have been incapable of getting a lottery pick for that package.
BTW, only $3.9M of Bledsoe's 2022-23 contrack is guaranteed so the actual savings is like $40-something million, not $58M. https://wgno.com/sports/one-and-done-report-pelicans-send-adams-bledsoe-to-memphis-in-salary-dump/
In hindsight, yeah Memphis might make other moves and this benefits them somehow. But New Orleans is trading two shit players for a decent one and moving down seven spots this year outside of the top 5 (obviously moving from 1 to 8 is different from 10-17). Bledsoe is toast. This is great for them.
Top 10 protected Lakers 1st isn't nothing either, but obviously talent/capspace-wise it's a big boost.
The Grizzlies are generally a good front office but their other trade of this manner was with the Heat for Justise Winslow….which didn’t receive a great reaction at the time and turned out to be an unmitigated disaster.
Idk, my recollection of the reaction was more like this:
Little late to the party on this, but SGA seems like exactly the kind of guy you don't worry about giving the Max rookie extension to. He won't be the #1 option on any team, but he fits on every team. You could sign him to a $35 million a year contract and if he's not getting you to the promised land and you need to reset with picks, most contenders or fringe playoff teams would be lining up to call with a fat package of picks and swaps to make him the second or third star on their roster.
Putting up 25.3 pts per 36 on .623 true shooting (.418 from 3, .808 ft) with 5.1 rebounds and 6.3 assists — at age 22 — says “third guy” to you?
I think I'd do SGA + 5 for 1 in a hypothetical world.
The problem is that at #6 you're most likely looking at a guy whose 1% projection is Shawn Marion (Jonathan Kuminga) with real questions about whether or not he'll ever hit it. So you'd go into the draft (at #1 or #2) with a real shot at getting that guy you can build a team around, and leave the draft still needing that guy.
Khris MIddleton was just the #2. Or Jrue Holiday. SGA would be just fine depending on who is partner is.
Yeah, honestly if Boston had missed the postseason and landed a top 2 pick I'd be willing to roll the dice on a trade as adding SGA to the JayCrew would vault them into the first tier. But neither Houston or Detroit is at that stage of development yet. And if I were running the Raptors (same conditionals) I might be really tempted to add SGA+ to my lineup (but there'd need to be considerably more to it than #6).
It all depends on what Giddey turns out to be which by all accounts was their target in getting above the 11th pick.
Agreed, and SGA would be a spectacular fit next to them. But he would also be the third guy in that set-up...
