2021 Boston College football

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The worst of the worst had to be the Fenway Bowl- one team that fired their coach versus one whose coach left for greener pastures. Then, in a city where no one cares about college football and the weather isn't conducive to playing in December. Then throw the pandemic on top of that. No one wants to see a game in Fenway Park that bad.

There was a bowl game in the early 60s called the Gotham Bowl in Yankee Stadium. At least they actually played two games before it died.
 
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They’ve played the Pinstripe Bowl in Yankee Stadium for several years now. BC’s been in it twice. Not sure how it draws otherwise but attendance has been very good when BC has played.
 

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The Fenway Bowl also had an 11am start time on a Wednesday. Even if you are just a football fan living in Boston who wanted to check out a bowl game at Fenway, that’s not an easy time to get off work.
 

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How much is really due to Covid and how much is an excuse to scrap poorly ticket-sold games?
Why would a school remove themselves from a Bowl Game and a multi-million dollar payday? The Bowls aren’t the ones cancelling it is the individual schools backing out.
 

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I believe those are pooled and split amongst conferences.
Right. Then the conferences distribute amongst the schools at their discretion. I assumed that the actual participants would receive the most but I don’t even know if the conferences make these public.
 

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Right. Then the conferences distribute amongst the schools at their discretion. I assumed that the actual participants would receive the most but I don’t even know if the conferences make these public.
Didn’t know the second part. That makes more sense at least than distributing it equally.
 

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Isn't the Military Bowl a smaller bowl?

I suspect they'd lose - probably a relatively small amount as its a pretty easy travel. They certainly arent getting a significant pay day off the Military Bowl - they rarely are able to sell their allotment of tickets and end up eating a bunch. This is a school that once hired a high school band for a bowl in CA because they didnt want to increase loss by incurring the travel expense to send their own band.
 

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Isn't the Military Bowl a smaller bowl?
Yes and No. It’s still in the upper half of payouts at over $2m……there are 19 Bowl games with smaller payouts. When I say “smaller bowl” I’m referring to like the First Responder or Frisco, the ones in the $400-800k range or a Bahamas Bowl at $225k. Again, I don’t know how the conferences divvy up the moneys.
 

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Yes and No. It’s still in the upper half of payouts at over $2m……there are 19 Bowl games with smaller payouts. When I say “smaller bowl” I’m referring to like the First Responder or Frisco, the ones in the $400-800k range or a Bahamas Bowl at $225k. Again, I don’t know how the conferences divvy up the moneys.
They are not making any money going to the Military Bowl. Between the charter flight down there and putting up and feeding their 150+ person travel party for a week, plus being on the hook for thousands of tickets that would be virtually impossible to sell, they would be doing well to break even. I'm sure the ACC has some kind of revenue split that includes the real money from the playoff, but just looking at the costs and revenue from the Military Bowl...that's not some financial windfall for anyone.
 

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Link to a piece about the financial implications of late Bowl game cancellations. The meat begins about halfway down but the skinny is that the networks don’t pay the bowl game for a broadcast that didn’t occur and the bowl games don’t pay out to the conferences or cover travel expenses that already occurred. Wow, a school like BC gets the shaft unless something is worked out afterward.

https://apple.news/Av0XZgG9IQuOyF_dQSuauzQ
 

kenneycb

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Don’t forget he was also drafted by the Coughlin-led Giants. Thankfully for Snee’s sake, he (1) wasn’t a bust and (2) eventually married Coughlin’s daughter.
 

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Send like another retread in that spot, except this guy doesn't have a former 5 star transfer to bring with him. 53 so the energy to recruit is probably minimal, his offenses at Rutgers were brutal.

Seems like on defense haf has great feel for coaches, offense he doesn't. Cig wasn't great, the ol coach is clearly over his head...
 

Ale Xander

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I really don't like that he bounced around from one position to another position (that he coached), but the positions are offensive while he was a safety in college. One good thing I can say is he taught Hunter Henry in his 1st 2 years at San Diego while Henry put up the one of the best seasons by a TE (after Gronk) ever.

Hate rooting for a guy with both ND and PSU connections.

I'd like someone younger for recruiting and someone with a more pure pedigree.
 

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I think you're misremembering Hunter's first two years. I would agreed if you combined the two years (81 receptions, 1.1K yards and 12 TDs) but individually they were simply good.
 

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The worst part about it honestly is the clear pattern is Hafley is comfortable on defense so he brings in recruiters and motivators there. On offense he brings in these older experienced hands and just out of instinct I'd bet gives them free reign. Not sure I feel like there's a lot of talent development there but this upcoming year they bring back so much on offense it may not matter. I do think the OL situation is terrifying, but its own issue.
 

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I think you're misremembering Hunter's first two years. I would agreed if you combined the two years (81 receptions, 1.1K yards and 12 TDs) but individually they were simply good.
Those are very good for a TE in his first 2 years historically. Rookie year was 2nd at the time in rookie TE Td’s (behind Gronk) believe
And he was filling very big shoes

I think we’re just spoiled with having Francis, Coates, Aherb and Gronk

I hate the hire so am looking for something positive
 
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I know nothing of him - any rationale for your sigh?
Just not an inventive hire at all. We have one more year of Jurk and Zay and I fear this guy is a vanilla hire. His lack of OC experience outside of the State College of NJ concerns me.
 

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Seems to me that a guy in his early 50s with 15 years’ experience as an NFL positional coach will be a fine complement to Hafley on the recruiting trail. They’re both from the Schiano tree and have coached together previously — so Hafley knows what he’s getting, but might be missing an opportunity to add diversity of thought to the staff.

I’m fine with the hire. McNulty is unlikely to bring radical innovation to the offense, but that’s probably ok.
 

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In Coughlin, We Trust:

Another important aspect that McNulty brings is his bevy of NFL experience. He kicked off his NFL experience with the Jacksonville Jaguars working under former Boston College head coach Tom Coughlin. ""John McNulty is an outstanding football coach, very intelligent, a good communicator, excellent work ethic, always well prepared with a wealth of experience in both professional and college football," said Tom Coughlin. "John is a humble leader, all about the team, and players will enjoy his style and sense of humor.
 

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Another former Coughlin guy. As someone who went to BC during the Coughlin years (90-94), I am excited to see. I always thought that Coughlin had the right attitude about BC football, as he understood the limitations, but also the opportunities, that the BC program had.
 

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Another former Coughlin guy. As someone who went to BC during the Coughlin years (90-94), I am excited to see. I always thought that Coughlin had the right attitude about BC football, as he understood the limitations, but also the opportunities, that the BC program had.
That was before the academics castrated the programs in the admissions process. There are no opportunities now in the major sports at BC, only limitations.
 
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