2021 Pats Draft Binkies

[MuppetAsteriskTalk]

From the non-premium players, who are you all hoping they draft in the mid to late rounds?

Here are a few of my hopes:

Kenneth Gainwell, HB - Would love to see him taken with the 96, or perhaps using the 96 and a later pick to trade up a little to ensure we get him. Seems like he could be the next standout 3rd down back in a long history of great Pats at this position.

Cade Johnson, WR - If the Pats don't select Waddle or Moore with an earlier selection, would love to see them take Johnson as a development slot receiver and kickoff returner if they can get him in the range of 120-139.

Divine Diablo, S - Seems to have a potential as a starting safety, and by all accounts is a serious weapon on special teams. Don't think he will fall to 120/122, so it's probably unlikely they get him unless they move around on the board

Damar Hamlin, S - If Diablo is gone and Hamlin is available at 139 or 177, would love to see the Pats grab him as a versatile depth piece and special teams player

Bobby Brown III, NT - Seem like I'm grabbing this guy or Tonga in all my mock drafts with 177, 188, or 197. By all accounts a mountain of a player and potential starting NFL NT.


Disclaimer: I don't do any of my own analysis, but have read a lot of draft profiles this year. Admittedly, this list could be objectively bad. But they're my binkies and I'm sticking with them! Who are yours?

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Divine Diablo seems worth it for the name value alone.

 

[Ferm Sheller]

One night only at the Foxy Lady

 

[MuppetAsteriskTalk]

Personal: Named Divine Ahmad Deablo after his great-grandfather, who was a Native American ... His first name was intended to “even out” his last name, pronounced like the Spanish word for devil …

From a Hokies website, which seems to be fond of ellipses.

 

[Phil Plantier]

As I think I've already established here, I'm an idiot with stupid ideas. But I did like Michael Onwenu last year, so now I'm totally qualified to opine. I've only read about a few positions so far.

QB:
Kyle Trask - Florida - I don't care that Dane Brugler calls him "a carbon copy of Mason Rudolph"
Zac Thomas - Appalachian State - in the Julian Edelman role

WR:
Agree with Cade Johnson (I'm assuming that Elijah and Rondale Moore don't count)
Jaelon Darden - North Texas - Dane Brugler: "a maniacal worker" but undersized. Sign me up.
(Honorable name mention: Whop Philyor)

OT:
Spencer Brown - Northern Iowa - no-star recruit, added 90 lbs of muscle
(also local boy Larnel Coleman)

OG:
David Moore - Grambling State
Peter Nestrowitz - underweight guard from Navy

EDGE:
Rashad Weaver - Pitt - double majored
Chris Rumph II - Duke

Anyway, as you can see, I root for small school players, players who have graduated, or undersized players that work hard.

My anti-binkie is Micah Parsons. As someone who writes a bunch of recommendations, I actually have insight into this! If a coach says "99.9 percent of the time he's been good," run far away.

 

[bsj]

Andre Cisco, S, Syracuse

 

[Captaincoop]

As I think I've already established here, I'm an idiot with stupid ideas. But I did like Michael Onwenu last year, so now I'm totally qualified to opine. I've only read about a few positions so far.

QB:
Kyle Trask - Florida - I don't care that Dane Brugler calls him "a carbon copy of Mason Rudolph"
Zac Thomas - Appalachian State - in the Julian Edelman role

WR:
Agree with Cade Johnson (I'm assuming that Elijah and Rondale Moore don't count)
Jaelon Darden - North Texas - Dane Brugler: "a maniacal worker" but undersized. Sign me up.
(Honorable name mention: Whop Philyor)

OT:
Spencer Brown - Northern Iowa - no-star recruit, added 90 lbs of muscle
(also local boy Larnel Coleman)

OG:
David Moore - Grambling State
Peter Nestrowitz - underweight guard from Navy

EDGE:
Rashad Weaver - Pitt - double majored
Chris Rumph II - Duke

Anyway, as you can see, I root for small school players, players who have graduated, or undersized players that work hard.

My anti-binkie is Micah Parsons. As someone who writes a bunch of recommendations, I actually have insight into this! If a coach says "99.9 percent of the time he's been good," run far away.

That last sentence is so spot-on. Would not draft.

 

[tims4wins]

Landon Dickerson

 

[Ale Xander]

Patrick Surtain II, CB (very premium player, missed OP's first sentence)
Israel Mukuamu, DB
Christian Barmore, DT
Tyler Shelvin, DT
Demetric Felton, 3DRB/KR

 

[SMU_Sox]

I have my big board up. I added projected role and a scheme fit from 1-5. I did my initial 234 players. I will fill in another 20-30 as we go but they will most likely be day 3 guys.

Darden is one of my favorites. Big fan of a lot of the same guys you all mentioned. Rashad Weaver is another. Landon Dickerson is one of my favorite players in the draft from a tape perspective.

Of the guys I have a day 3 grade on (6.49 - flashes starter starter traits) I love Cameron McGrone. He is a home run swing on an athletic linebacker who loves crashing downhill. He can stack and shed well. He's young and somewhat inexperienced but if you gave him a year to develop he has dominant physical traits. Rhamondre Stevenson and Michael Carter would make a nice day 3 backfield duo. Carter would make a perfect White replacement and would offer more as a runner. I also like Kylin Hill for that role. Jimmy Morrissey if he can add enough functional strength is a really good athlete and excels at making blocks at the next level. KJ Britt and Derrick Barnes could be late day 3 STers and downhill thumper LBs. Joshua Kaindoh, Elerson Smith, Shaka Toney, and Jordan Smith could be day 3 pass rushers who have better than a snowballs chance in hell for working out. I also really like Marvin Wilson as a run stuffer. There are some NTs they might want to double-dip on too. Oh last one is Charles Snowden. I think he is going to be a quality 3-4 OLB/ILB hybrid player.

 

[tims4wins]

That is fantastic SMU. Bookmarking that doc and will be referencing regularly over the next 3 weeks.

Edit are you going to put together color coded cheat sheets like last year?

http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/2020-patriots-draft-prospects.29310/post-3863223

 

[SMU_Sox]

I am. I figure once I finished the stragglers then I can do that. @tims4wins
The question I have this year is with WRs. Do they have any interest in the day 3 guys who are undersized but fast. Really looking forward to figuring that out. Because there are 3-4-5 guys who could go sometime day 2 or 3 who fit their profile of what they like minus weight.

 

[tims4wins]

Awesome!

 

[Mooch]

My guy is Cornell Powell - WR - Clemson

I don't understand why he's projected as a Day 3 guy other than the typical "late bloomer" NFL bias. He's going to be a productive NFL player. Has all of the tools.

 

[bsj]

I want Marable in or around the 6th. I think he'd fill that Burkhead role quite nicely and think he has the upside to be a bit more

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXgoxg8gIZg&ab_channel=JustBombsProductions

 

[Beomoose]

Josh Palmer, WR from Tennessee. I like a "how the fuck did he catch that?" WR, but his lack of afterburner probably causes him to go fairly late.

 

[MuppetAsteriskTalk]

Josh Palmer, WR from Tennessee. I like a "how the fuck did he catch that?" WR, but his lack of afterburner probably causes him to go fairly late.

At least in the PFF sim, this guy seems to be going roughly around the same time as Jaelon Dardon and Cade Johnson, a couple of other BBL WR binkies mentioned ITT. It will be interesting to see what actually happens.

 

[SMU_Sox]

Here is a list of my favorite guys by position and then day 1/ day 2/ day 3. I am not saying these guys were the best just guys I might be higher on or simply enjoyed their game more.

QB:
Day 1: Justin Fields. I've talked about him already. He is my favorite player in the draft. Hence the avatar. Will be very sad if they don't end up with Fields or Lance but especially Fields.
Day 2: Kyle Trask: I just enjoyed watching the big guy play. I don't think much of his pro chances but I loved his college game. Real underdog story.
Day 3: Jamie Newman - he has the physical tools but his processing needs 2-3 years of development.

WR:
Day 1: Jaylen Waddle. He is tough as nails. Guy plays like he is 225 pounds over the middle. Oh and he is better RAC than Tyreek Hill. Yeah... really. I know a few guys I respect hold this opinion too. I think he could be a top 5 receiver in the league if he goes to the right situation. He is also fun as hell to watch.
Day 2: Elijah Moore: one of the best all around receivers in every aspect of the game.
Day 3: Jalen Darden: He is like a discounted version of Waddle and Moore. Dynamic slot guy with great route running and RAC.

RB:
Day 1: How am I supposed to choose between Najee and Javonte? Well if I have to just pick one... I will go for the guy who is the best all-around back I have seen coming out and is huge to boot, Najee Harris.
Day 2: Michael Carter. I think he has the potential to be a starter but his floor to me is a rotational guy and a passing down specialist. He is lightning to someone elses thunder. He is also the best receiving in the draft.
Day 3: Trey Sermon. Trey Sermon is my RB3. I think he will be a good to great starter. His feet and vision are soooo good.
There are 5-8 fits for the Pats as guys you'd have a draftable grade on.

OT:
Day 1: Teven Jenkins. I've written him up. He eats souls of Edge/IDLs. I love his use of hands. He has so much power.
Day 2: Spencer Brown: he just needs NFL coaching. He has the ideal body and athleticism. I love his potential. Reminds me a little bit of Vollmer.
Day 3: Stone Forsythe might not count but if he does it is him for his pass pro. He is a wall. If he doesn't count: Jaylon Moore: I love his movement skills and footwork. Graceful mover. Just needs to add functional strength.

IOL:
Day 1: Landon Dickerson. He is a wrecking ball and a trash talker. If his knees hold up I could see him as a 10 year pro bowl caliber player at center. Rumor is he is going to the Steelers. Please no.
Day 2: Brady Christensen. He is Joe Thuney 2.0. So good with his use of hands. Great movement skills. Can play OT sparingly but can play LG, RG, or even OC. I think he is going to be a quality to near pro-bowl caliber starter at OG.
Day 3: So many. Jimmy Morrisey out of Pitt has the best movement skills at center. I think he is going to wreck on an outside zone team. Could also be a future Patriot.

TE:
Day 1: Kyle Pitts. He is a cheat code.
Day 2: I hate this position. I guess Tommy Tremble for the way he obliterates guys as a blocker in space.
Day 3: Tre McKitty - he's just so smooth.
Honestly I hate this position so much I use favorite here loosely. Watching TE is boring too.

IDL:
Day 1: Christian Barmore - his highlights and last 2-3 games were elite.
Day 2: Marvin Wilson - love his ability to overpower OL. Run stuffer extraordinaire and his 2019 tape showed enough burst to be a pass rusher.
Day 3: Bobby Brown III - if he hits his potential he could be starter just below Wilfork's caliber as a true 3-4 0 tech who might even have the burst to rush the passer.

Edge:
Day 1: Azeez Ojulari - his game vs Bama this year was one of the best I have seen from an edge rusher. Think he has brighter days ahead of him if he lands in a 3-4.
Day 2: Payton Turner: love his use of hands and combos as well as his superb run defense. He's one of those pros pros types. Tons of polish.
Day 3: Charles Snowden and Chris Rumph. If I had to choose one Charles Snowden - I think he is a 3-4 OLB/ILB hybrid type of defender and one who has the athleticism and bend/moves to win.

ILB:
Day 1: Only one guy but watching Micah Parsons wreck the competition as a versatile ILB/OLB is nothing short of pure enjoyment.
Day 2: Jamin Davis - this guy has first round or close to it kind of physical talent and pro bowl traits. He is a combination of old-school downhill LB who can cover too with the modern LB who has sideline-to-sideline speed.
Day 3: Pete Werner but if he doesn't count than Cam McGrone. McGrone is athletic as get out and packs a punch. His issue is he needs more playing time.

S:
Day 1: There are no day 1 guys I don't think. There are 5 guys I have 1st/2nds on or what translates to that in my system. Riche Grant is my favorite safety in the draft. I think he is the perfect FS who can also play slot and do some box stuff.
Day 2: Elijah Molden is the best slot coverer in the draft. Think Honey Badger 2.0.
Day 3: Divine Deablo if he counts who is a S/LB hybrid who can cover TEs and some RBs. If he doesn't count then Ar'Darius Washington who plays the game like a round 1 guy but has a day 3 body (undersized and didn't test well although he played more athletic than he tested.

CB:
Day 1: Jaycee Horn. It's a lazy comp but like... it isn't they play the same way. Jaycee Horn reminds me SO MUCH of Gilmore minus Horn's tackling sucks.
Day 2: Aaron Robinson: he plays with fire and chirps his ass off. Can play any DB position: slot, box safety, free/deep safety, outside corner, etc.
Day 3: Robert Rochell: Great against the run and has all the traits you want but needs coaching. I loved watching him blow guys up as a tackler.

 

[nighthob]

CB:
Day 3: Great against the run and has all the traits you want but needs coaching. I loved watching him blow guys up as a tackler.

How good is Day 3 in man coverage?

 

[SMU_Sox]

How good is Day 3 in man coverage?

Day 3, Robert Rochell, (sorry I forgot his name) is very good at press man. I say very good but the issue with him is he is a lot of traits right now but lacks route recognition and anticipation. He’s more of an elite athlete than an excellent corner.

 

[MuppetAsteriskTalk]

DaeThree is DaeTwo's little brother. I wouldn't touch him, always a day late and a dollar short in coverage.

@SMU - thanks for all of your detailed thoughts on your favorites!

 

[tims4wins]

DaeThree is DaeTwo's little brother. I wouldn't touch him, always a day late and a dollar short in coverage.

Tavon or Jordan??

 

[EL Jeffe]

A guy at each position I like more than Draft World's consensus.

QB: Ian Book. I mean, he's almost definitely not going to make it. But still, there's a Jeff Garcia vibe to his game and the non-zero chance that he makes it and becomes A Thing. Doesn't fit the NE physical QB profile (at all), but he does seem to have the make up they like.

RB: Khalil Herbert. Really good football player who broke a filthy amount of +20 runs at VA Tech. SMU made a Dalvin Cook comparison, which tracks. Herbert isn't sniffing the first round and isn't that sort of prospect, but I can see him making it in the league.

WR: Anthony Schwartz. It's a REALLY deep WR class and there isn't much of a consensus on the 2nd & 3rd tier guys, so I'll just throw out Schwartz. I like that he got noticeably better every season and his speed is real and dangerous. I don't know that he ever becomes a full-time guy, but he's fun on manufactured touch plays. His route running is coming along, so I wouldn't close the book on him being a true WR3 type in a year or two.

TE: Tony Poljan. Outside of Pitts, there really isn't anything to get excited about here. Poljan had one of the best physical profiles of the class before getting hurt leading up to the Senior Bowl. Probably redshirts in 2021. But he's really big, moves well, tries to block, and shows soft hands. A former QB who hasn't quite put it all together, but in a meh class, he could end up being one of the better ones in 3-4 years.

OL: Ben Cleveland. Looks and plays like The Mountain from Game of Thrones. Just massive and powerful. He tests a bit better as an athlete than he plays, but the ceiling and play style are fun.

DL: Wyatt. Hubert. He's like a Wino-lite; from appearance to play style. He's not as gifted as Wino, but he was a problem in the Big 12. I wouldn't bet against him. Has a motor, a get-off, and a pass rush plan.

LB: Monty Rice: I don't know why he doesn't get more love. He's just a good player from a top program that does what you want from a stack LB. Plays downhill, runs well, and is passable in coverage. Reminds me a lot of Micah Kiser from the Rams (formerly UVA); not a lot of holes in Rice's game.

DB: Talanoa Hufanga: My. guy. Two years ago it was Stidham, last year it was Uche. Let's see if I can make it three years in a row. Super productive, flies to the ball, plays with urgency and makes the splash plays you want from a S. He runs 4.61 at 199#, which isn't ideal and the marginal long speed shows up. He's much more Adrian Phillips than Duron Harmon in NE's scheme, but I love this kid. 6.87 3-Cone and a 10'8" broad jump, so it's not like he's lacking in athleticism. You just wish he was a bit faster.

 

[SMU_Sox]

@EL Jeffe I LOVE YOUR LIST. Sorry not sorry for the caplocks.

I have Monty Rice in the 80s on my board. No idea why people don't like him more. I have a starting grade on him. No one gets through Ben Cleveland in pass pro. He is a mini wall. I also like Schwartz and Marquez Stevenson as fast guys who might have better pro careers than college ones.

Yeah, Herbert has the kind of movement skills that Dalvin does but he isn't as polished with stacking move combos and/or receiving and his blocking needs some work. But Herbert as a backup in MIN or even a potential starter IMO for an outside zone team? HELL YES. Only guy I don't like is Hufanga. And it isn't that I don't like him in terms of his play style because he is a pros pro. I just don't think he has the functional athleticism to be anything but a box player and he is a little undersized for that. I was hoping he'd check in at like 210-215. I believe he was sub 200 at his pro day. He is fearless though and plays both smart and with his hair on fire. I know a few others who like him a lot too - will be rooting for him.

 

[EL Jeffe]

@EL Jeffe Only guy I don't like is Hufanga. And it isn't that I don't like him in terms of his play style because he is a pros pro. I just don't think he has the functional athleticism to be anything but a box player and he is a little undersized for that. I was hoping he'd check in at like 210-215. I believe he was sub 200 at his pro day. He is fearless though and plays both smart and with his hair on fire. I know a few others who like him a lot too - will be rooting for him.

My guess is Hufanga dropped weight to run better. He's probably a 210# guy with 4.65 speed. I like him better as a box safety, but he can probably play a little over the top with his instincts and football IQ to help mitigate some of his range/speed issues. My guess is he'll also be a quality ST with his mentality and tackling in space.

 

[Phil Plantier]

I have some deep RB sleepers (Kene Nwangu, Jake Funk, BJ Emmons, Nate McCrary), but my new RB binkie is Garrett Groshek. HS QB, runs with toughness, can catch and block.

 

[SMU_Sox]

I think the hardest top of the board eval is Kwity Paye. He would likely have to be a standup OLB in the Pats 3-4. The thing is he has basically played defensive line the last some years at Michigan. So he is a total projection. He also has some mental lapses in the run game. Has perhaps some processing issues.

He is long, super athletic, does well against the run, is powerful, and when he did get free reign to rush the passer he destroyed a guard. So I can see why they like him. However he has played so out of position at Michigan and you don't really have that many reps where he is rushing like a traditional rusher. I decided that he was a slightly below average fit because of the projection which I am not sure he can handle and his processing issues. He also would be a projection for his pass rush vs tackles and that just gives me too much pause.

Again I could see them betting on his traits and taking him at 15 if he's there. But right now with his projections and rawness I feel like Patriots might like other players where they would have to take him more and he is far from the neatest fit.

I also thought Zaven Collins was a weird eval. He is basically a 270 pound WILL who gets bullied by the OL but who can cover well and has sideline-to-sideline range. He could evolve into one of the best linebackers in the game but I think he need to to grow as a player and add MIKE, Jack or Sam to his resume. Tony Pauline is saying he is going to bulk up and play DE or edge. I thought his LOS play was the weakest aspect of his game. Really curious where he goes and what they will do with him.

Zach WIlson and Mac Jones were tricky evals too. Ultimately I am lower on Wilson and Mac Jones than consensus.

Oh another one that was hard to figure out was Nick Bolton. He's smaller than they like at the position by a smidge and he might be nearly maxed out at 237. But he plays the game like they want their MIKEs to in terms of being a thumper and great against the run. The problem with Bolton is they like their LBs athletic enough in earlier rounds to cover guys and Bolton is going to struggle in coverage.


Ultimately I left Paye and Bolton off as fits.

Not that it matters but I think Bill would hate Wilson. Too many bad decisions.

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

One more round of thanks to our draft experts. This board is so great — evaluations are insightful, but also not arrogant, three-dimensional, and really really well-written. We are blessed.

ive been patiently waiting... has @IdiotKicker contributed his round-up of the kicking prospects yet? High probability the Pats bring in a PK this year, and in retrospect @IdiotKicker ’s not having Rohrwasser in his top 10 last year is a feature, not a bug.

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

I’m a Wake Forest fan, but in the right spot I’d feel good about the three guys they’ve got on boards:

Jamie Newman (not before Day Three): Understand he’s got development to do, but also know he’s bright and picked up Clawson’s complicated system quickly and well. Throws a great deep ball.

Boogie Basham (somewhere in the 40s): Motor motor motor. Plays hard from the first quarter to the fourth, with great burst.

Sage Surratt (6th round): He brings a lot of what Harry’s got, but if they swapped Harry for a 5th or 6th for a chance to start over with Suratt, I wouldn’t mind. Good frame, works sidelines well, not afraid to head over the middle. Not Mr. Separation, but he wins 50/50 balls. (You might say he’s a high-pointillist.)

Hey, Justin Herron worked out pretty well relative to the investment!

 

[IdiotKicker]

One more round of thanks to our draft experts. This board is so great — evaluations are insightful, but also not arrogant, three-dimensional, and really really well-written. We are blessed.

ive been patiently waiting... has @IdiotKicker contributed his round-up of the kicking prospects yet? High probability the Pats bring in a PK this year, and in retrospect @IdiotKicker ’s not having Rohrwasser in his top 10 last year is a feature, not a bug.

Evan McPherson is a monster and deserves to be the consensus top kicking prospect. He’s a max-effort kicker who has some serious range, gets great height on his kicks, and just loves to crush the ball. He’s got a bit of the Aguayo quick skip-step after his kick that makes me a touch nervous, but he didn’t have the type of drop off in production that Aguayo had and his tape holds up well, so I dig him. Grab him at 177 or 188 if he’s there.

I don’t like Jose Borregales one bit. His motion is stiff, his kicks don’t get good height, and I don’t think he profiles as an above-average NFL kicker despite a good year. Not for me.

Riley Patterson from Memphis has a nice compact motion and generates good height, slightly above average power. I think it’s a really clean motion that profiles as at least an average kicker, so he’s a high-floor guy who you can grab in the 7th or as a UDFA. Worth exploring because it’s just a clean and easy motion with little complexity. Plus, the last Memphis kicker we had worked out well.

Quinn Nordin is kinda meh to me. Drags his leg through the zone leading to a lot of push to the right, I don’t understand being interested in him in any real way. Came in with a big freshman year, but I don’t really love his tape.

Matt Coghlin from Michigan State is kind of interesting to me. He almost prances up to the ball like a reindeer but has an easy flowing motion that makes me think of a Portuguese Water Dog kicking a football. It’s just very cute, and it works for him. I wouldn’t draft him, but as a UDFA he’d be interesting to explore.

Anyways, I haven’t watched a ton of tape this year, but these are some of the guys that have been talked about as being drafted,and there are a few that are worth a late pick or a UDFA, but I really don’t like Borregales, and Nordin doesn’t pop for me at all.

 

[SMU_Sox]

@Super Nomario and I collaborated on a best fits piece for the Patriots. This is not exhaustive and we try to get examples from day 1, 2, and 3 for each position.
IDL I think there are a bunch of tackles that would be average fits for them but every tackle in this class comes with considerable warts. That’s why there are only two IDL best fits. I rewatched Barmore’s all-22 against Ohio State and Florida. I just don’t think he’s ever going to be able to do anything but be a penetrator. For a big guy who has long and strong arms and hands he can’t two-gap and his change of direction was only ok. He slipped on some twists and stunts and his best production came when he beat his man clean 1:1 and not in games. But enough about IDL. Hope y’all enjoy it as much as we did coming up with the fits.

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

Someone is going to get a late round (or UDFA) steal in Boise's Avery Williams. Special teams dynamo who can also play corner well enough to be a 7th or 8th DB on a roster (I don't know how many CBs/DBs teams carry).

 

[Bowser]

Evan McPherson is a monster and deserves to be the consensus top kicking prospect. He’s a max-effort kicker who has some serious range, gets great height on his kicks, and just loves to crush the ball. He’s got a bit of the Aguayo quick skip-step after his kick that makes me a touch nervous, but he didn’t have the type of drop off in production that Aguayo had and his tape holds up well, so I dig him. Grab him at 177 or 188 if he’s there.

I don’t like Jose Borregales one bit. His motion is stiff, his kicks don’t get good height, and I don’t think he profiles as an above-average NFL kicker despite a good year. Not for me.

Riley Patterson from Memphis has a nice compact motion and generates good height, slightly above average power. I think it’s a really clean motion that profiles as at least an average kicker, so he’s a high-floor guy who you can grab in the 7th or as a UDFA. Worth exploring because it’s just a clean and easy motion with little complexity. Plus, the last Memphis kicker we had worked out well.

Quinn Nordin is kinda meh to me. Drags his leg through the zone leading to a lot of push to the right, I don’t understand being interested in him in any real way. Came in with a big freshman year, but I don’t really love his tape.

Matt Coghlin from Michigan State is kind of interesting to me. He almost prances up to the ball like a reindeer but has an easy flowing motion that makes me think of a Portuguese Water Dog kicking a football. It’s just very cute, and it works for him. I wouldn’t draft him, but as a UDFA he’d be interesting to explore.

Anyways, I haven’t watched a ton of tape this year, but these are some of the guys that have been talked about as being drafted,and there are a few that are worth a late pick or a UDFA, but I really don’t like Borregales, and Nordin doesn’t pop for me at all.

Any thoughts on Alex Kessman from Pitt? Accuracy issues, but supposedly he has a bigger leg than McPherson.

 

[IdiotKicker]

Any thoughts on Alex Kessman from Pitt? Accuracy issues, but supposedly he has a bigger leg than McPherson.

Torquey, violent, and unorthodox. He doesn’t really skip at all after his kicks - he just kind of pivots on his plant leg and grinds himself into the ground. Seems like an awful lot of stress and a place where things can go wrong. He seems to get through the ball pretty well, but it’s an odd motion. I don’t know if it’s motion-related or not, but his ball has a ton of movement that isn’t exactly predictable. I don’t love him, but big legs always get looks, and they sometimes work out after accuracy issues in college like Wil Lutz.

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

Evan McPherson is a monster and deserves to be the consensus top kicking prospect. He’s a max-effort kicker who has some serious range, gets great height on his kicks, and just loves to crush the ball. He’s got a bit of the Aguayo quick skip-step after his kick that makes me a touch nervous, but he didn’t have the type of drop off in production that Aguayo had and his tape holds up well, so I dig him. Grab him at 177 or 188 if he’s there.

I don’t like Jose Borregales one bit. His motion is stiff, his kicks don’t get good height, and I don’t think he profiles as an above-average NFL kicker despite a good year. Not for me.

Riley Patterson from Memphis has a nice compact motion and generates good height, slightly above average power. I think it’s a really clean motion that profiles as at least an average kicker, so he’s a high-floor guy who you can grab in the 7th or as a UDFA. Worth exploring because it’s just a clean and easy motion with little complexity. Plus, the last Memphis kicker we had worked out well.

Quinn Nordin is kinda meh to me. Drags his leg through the zone leading to a lot of push to the right, I don’t understand being interested in him in any real way. Came in with a big freshman year, but I don’t really love his tape.

Matt Coghlin from Michigan State is kind of interesting to me. He almost prances up to the ball like a reindeer but has an easy flowing motion that makes me think of a Portuguese Water Dog kicking a football. It’s just very cute, and it works for him. I wouldn’t draft him, but as a UDFA he’d be interesting to explore.

Anyways, I haven’t watched a ton of tape this year, but these are some of the guys that have been talked about as being drafted,and there are a few that are worth a late pick or a UDFA, but I really don’t like Borregales, and Nordin doesn’t pop for me at all.

Awesome stuff, thank you