Martino tweeted that he did not state that Boone and Cashman are definitely coming back.That is essentially just a link to Andy Martino's post from yesterday, FWIW.
But yeah, stunned if either of those two did not come back, really don't get why Cashman likes Boone so much except maybe he takes some of the media attention away from Cashman.
We discussed this article a bunch here a few hours ago:How connected is Andy Martino to what is going on in the NYY clubhouse?
Thanks- and sorry for distracting from this thread.We discussed this article a bunch here a few hours ago:
He talks about how Cashman willingly going glove-first at C and SS going into 2023 worked out (as expected; the defense was welcomed but the NYY offense had a sharp dropoff in their 1-9 lineups as a result, although Jose Trevino's great D and 11HR career year was gravy). About that offense:The hand-wringing over the Yankees’ loss to Houston in the ALCS is … a bit much. We’re really going to fire the GM over this? Over posting the second-best record in the American League this year, and then losing to the team that posted the best record, a team that allowed the fewest runs per game in the AL this year and scored the third-most? If your standards are World Champs or you’re fired, well, I guess that’s your prerogative, but it seems like a tough way to run a franchise.
Law mentions two possible FA bats that might make sense (Brandon Nimmo and to a lesser degree Brian Reynolds). His out-of-the-box take is that the Yankees sign one of the elite SS free agents and move them to 3B. IKF keeps SS warm for Volpe and Josh Donaldson cameos as veteran presence from the bench until Cashman tricks someone into taking him in a deadline deal next year.The Yankees had five players who played regularly for them this year who were below league-average offensively, including Trevino and Kiner-Falefa, although Joey Gallo is gone. With Aaron Judge possibly leaving as a free agent, however, their offensive outlook for 2023 is pretty dire. Anthony Rizzo was their next-best hitter by wRC+, but he’s going to be 33 and has already lost enough bat speed that he posted a BABIP of just .216. DJ LeMahieu has gone backward. Giancarlo Stanton isn’t the player the Yankees traded for, with a sub-.300 OBP between injured list stints. And those are the good hitters they bring back. They need impact at multiple positions.
I find it funny that Law would poo-poo not bringing back Cashman then goes on to say how many below league average hitters they had in their lineup. Who brought them in?Keith Law for The Athletic has an article about the Yankees' off-season and his own educated guesses as to what they could do based on what they need. It's subscription so am only sharing a few bits.
First, Law echoes what JA and EE and others have been stating for the past week: you don't fire Boone and Cashman unless you're "guy in the car on WFAN" and still stuck in a previous century Steinbrenner winning state-o-mind:
He talks about how Cashman willingly going glove-first at C and SS going into 2023 worked out (as expected; the defense was welcomed but the NYY offense had a sharp dropoff in their 1-9 lineups as a result, although Jose Trevino's great D and 11HR career year was gravy). About that offense:
Law mentions two possible FA bats that might make sense (Brandon Nimmo and to a lesser degree Brian Reynolds). His out-of-the-box take is that the Yankees sign one of the elite SS free agents and move them to 3B. IKF keeps SS warm for Volpe and Josh Donaldson cameos as veteran presence from the bench until Cashman tricks someone into taking him in a deadline deal next year.
[As a Sox fan I'd rather they pull the fork out of Josh Donaldson's back, polish it up, stick it back in, and pretend he's their full-time 3B in 2023.]
Law thinks their biggest issue in getting over HOU's juggernaut is more offense. He doesn't float any FA names for pitching since most of the rotation is locked up through 2023 (Severino) or later (Cole, Cortes, German, Montas). I suspect the Yankees would want someone though; I'm of the mind that Cortes is good but regresses back to good in 2023 from the great he was in 2022 based on xERA, xFIP, BABIP etc. German is 4-5 at best at this point. The Yankees haven't really gone all in with full-on cheap reclamation projects on one-year deals as a strategy but maybe they start to this winter.
https://www.sny.tv/articles/yankees-aaron-boone-return-does-not-resolve-brian-cashman-statusWhen Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner told the Associated Press on Thursday that Aaron Boone will continue as manager, it might have led some to assume that general manager Brian Cashman’s return was assured.
In reality, Cashman’s status remains unresolved. He and Steinbrenner might agree to continue their longstanding working relationship -- as we reported Monday, most in the Yankees organization expect that to happen -- but his situation is different from Boone’s.
Last year, the Yanks signed Boone to a three-year contract. If the team wanted to move on, it would have had to fire him -- a move the Yankees have not made on any skipper since the 1990s.
Cashman’s contract expires at the end of the month. If he and Steinbrenner do not agree on a new one, it will not be a firing or a resignation. It will simply be that the sides did not agree to terms.
That has not been settled, and is not particularly close to being settled, according to league sources. Steinbrenner’s announcement on Boone did nothing to make a resolution for Cashman more or less likely.
Again, it's pretty unclear what Aaron Boone actually does, but I don't think most MLB managers today have the same responsibilities as managers from 20 or 30 years ago. I don't think Boone decides the lineups (there is absolutely no way he is the one who decided to start leading off Judge down the stretch, for instance) and I don't think he has much to do with mid-game pitching decisions (NY has three pitching coaches and I believe that those decisions largely come from them).I get the idea that it is an accomplishment to get a team to the playoffs, and the playoffs are a crapshoot, and therefore firing a coach or manager after a season like that can seem reactive and reflect unrealistic expectations. I'm sure 1995 Buck Showalter and 2001 Tony Dungy* would agree with that sentiment. I also understand that getting to the ACLS and losing to a team with a better record seems like even less of a reason to fire someone. 2003 Grady Little probably thought so as well. But sometimes it is the right move.
*Many people give Dungy credit for 2002. I do not.
Oh, Mark Jackson, Paul Westhead, Bill Fitch...there are of tons of examples of just changing the voice and then winning a title. It's not as if there aren't other people who can't objectively do just as good a job as Boone.
Wait, what? When was this supposed to happen, when Benintendi was still healthy? Cabrera is a career infielder who was bad in April in AAA and then hurt from May 8-July 4. He came back on July 4 (still in AAA) and started raking a few days later, they promoted him six weeks later, a rare promotion done at the correct time. They played him a few games in the OF in AAA but it's hard to give them a hard time for not giving him OF reps before that.not getting Cabrera reps in left
Thinking this through, it makes me even more angry.Wait, what? When was this supposed to happen, when Benintendi was still healthy? Cabrera is a career infielder who was bad in April in AAA and then hurt from May 8-July 4. He came back on July 4 (still in AAA) and started raking a few days later, they promoted him six weeks later, a rare promotion done at the correct time. They played him a few games in the OF in AAA but it's hard to give them a hard time for not giving him OF reps before that.
He did, he played 70 innings there in the regular season and the only reason he didn't play even more was that he was doing awesome in RF and they needed him there.so why didn't he get a couple of reps in September?
I disagree with this, I think contact for the sake of contact is quite overrated and it's really difficult to score in the postseason without home runs. HOU almost never strikes out and barely scored except via HRs in I think the first 4-5 games of this postseason, but they still won them all.What has been a huge problem with this team all year and especially in the playoffs against Houston? Not getting balls in play. Striking out. More than anything else, it doomed them.
Eh. I didn't say anything about contact for the sake of contact. IKF had the second highest batting average in the playoffs behind Bader and just ahead of Rizzo and the third highest OBP behind those two.I disagree with this, I think contact for the sake of contact is quite overrated and it's really difficult to score in the postseason without home runs. HOU almost never strikes out and barely scored except via HRs in I think the first 4-5 games of this postseason, but they still won them all.
Do they really still have this? Ultimately I think the list of guys who won't shave the beard if the Yanks come in with the highest offer is small. But it's probably not zero.Also I legit think NY’s ridiculous no beard policy is going to increasingly cut into the list of players who want to go there going forward.
Always felt pretty awful for Darnell McDonald when he was picked up and dropped within the same week (there abouts) and all he had to show for it was a buzzed dome.Also I legit think NY’s ridiculous no beard policy is going to increasingly cut into the list of players who want to go there going forward. If NY traded for Luis Castillo this summer instead of SEA and made him cut his amazing dreads, does he sign an extension like he did in SEA? I highly doubt it.
First of all, apologies to you, because I read a lot of similar stuff on Twitter/Reddit and I never answer, so you end up getting the accumulated answer here, sorry.Cashman and Boone's conference yesterday went over like a big godamn lead balloon. The summary of why is because everything was about them believing their process is the right one and the results don't matter as much if they trust the decision making since they can't control what happens on the field. They blamed injuries. Cashman either didn't know or was questioning what the three true outcomes were (which is embarrassing if true or dumb if he was testing the reporter), Boone said IKF was a top defender (again), and it very much sounded a lot like aw shucks get em next year.
I'm rarely on the side of the mob but I just don't sense any urgency here. Maybe it's there, but it sounds like they're very content with what they accomplished and are coughing it up to chance and injuries for why we got crushed.
Again, not litigating the point on how much blame gets assigned to Cash and Boone, well documented on this forum how I've basically flip flopped depending on my mood w/ Cash. But I just can't for the life of me understand the tone. They sound like a bunch of losers. You want your management to reflect the same level of disappointment in getting beat, not be emotionless robots who say some of the right words and then sound like talking to the media is a chore.
Based on what, really? I like Cashman but he isn't the only GM who understands analytics and how to spend money.I think if anything the fan base owes Cashman an apology for the abuse they have given him in recent years, how about that? Again, without Cashman, I think there’s a real chance that the Yankees are the MLB equivalent of the Knicks.
I think he's a top 5 GM overall and it's a lot more likely his replacement would be worse than better. Even the 'biggest mistakes' his critics point to were arguably not mistakes, even in retrospect. One recent example is the Bader/Montgomery deal, no one else would have thought of that (moving a solid SP for a speedy OF in a walking boot) but NY would be in a decidedly worse situation right now without that (no real starting OFs under contract as opposed to one).Based on what, really? I like Cashman but he isn't the only GM who understands analytics and how to spend money.
He has one year left, a big reason why Cashman moved Montgomery (who also only has one year left).Is Montas a FA? If not…. You think that Cash will trade him?
I'm sure they can keep MC for cheap but on the other hand, let's not be relying on an age 37 season for anything productive.So I would try to get back Rizzo ASAP, he turned down higher offers last winter waiting for NY to give up on Olson and Freeman and go with their very solid third choice. His back issues recurring a few times this season hurt his position here too, maybe he would go for 2/32 and a third year club option at $16M. If NY can get him back quickly, that should help with Judge.
I also really hope they can keep Matt Carpenter, that dude was literally Barry Bonds-like for a quarter season (1.138 in 154 regular season PAs). That OPS is higher than Bonds had in two of his six MVP seasons (1.136 in 1993, 1.080 in 1992). There seemed to be great dugout chemistry between Judge and Rizzo and Carpenter, so I think getting Carpenter back quickly would help a bit with Judge also.