The Broncos were 7-6 and in control of their destiny. Since that point they’ve put up 10, 13, and 6 points and are going to be 7-9. Maybe Fangio gets a free pass due to the QB situation but I’d move on. Then again I never would have hired him.
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Texans are reportedly keeping Culley.
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He had a rough start, but that was a tough job, a really bad roster and he's had them vaguely competitive in most games, not an embarrassment like the Jags/Giants/Lions trifecta
Yes, and having the Watson stuff hanging over him all year didn't make things any easier. He carried a lot of water for management there.
Football wise, this was probably the best-case scenario for them. They will finish as just another 4 or 5-win team that no one will ever talk about again.
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https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/1/6/22869889/nfl-coaching-carousel-avoid-mistakes
This was really good, a look at why NFL teams generally kind of stink at hiring GMs and Coaches
This was really good, a look at why NFL teams generally kind of stink at hiring GMs and Coaches
Still think we’re looking at 5-6 openings, but maybe not the ones I thought three weeks ago.
Rich Bisaccia has a real shot at the permanent job in Vegas now with three straight wins. I think that would be a mistake, but it will be tough to sack him if they beat the Chargers Sunday and make the playoffs.
The Bears have won back-to-back games. I still think Nagy is gone, but it isn’t the foregone conclusion it appeared to be a few weeks ago.
Obviously nothing since has happened to change my mind about Fangio’s status. He’s a dead man walking. So is Judge; his recent public comments are those of someone who expects to be fired.
Zimmer might be coaching for his job on Sunday.
The Lions’ win over Arizona removed any doubt that Campbell will be back next year. Culley is out of jeopardy too, with the Texans winning two of their past three.
The Panthers have lost six in a row now. 50/50 whether Rhule gets another year.
Carroll’s situation remains unclear. Russ’s open speculation that last Sunday might have been his final home game in Seattle makes me think they won’t both be back. And even if Russ is the one to go, does Carroll have the desire at his age to preside over a total rebuild? (Russ has a $26M dead-cap hit if he’s dealt, so even if Seattle gets a QB back, a quick reload probably isn’t in the cards.)
“we have one guy who said I’ve never been out of playoff contention, never knew what it was like to be in a position where you’re actually playing games not to be in the playoffs or improve seeding or whatever it may be to get in playoffs. I didn’t know what to expect and then when we were officially eliminated it was almost an expectation of that player: How is everyone else going to react?”
Logan Ryan? Is that you?
Zimmer should be gone, regardless. It doesn't matter whether they go 8-9 or 7-10. Three playoff spots in eight seasons, in a division that has the Bears and Lions, with back to back losing seasons in the past two years, should be enough to earn him the exit.
Al Breer was on Rich Eisen's show today and said that scouts are not as impressed with Trevor Lawrence as they'd expected to be and Baalke as GM is going to scare off some coaching candidates. So things continue apace in Duval.
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Thanks for the update from "Al" of old real news.
Enjoy the well earned Shad Fraud clown shown on Sunday!
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No surprise that Nagy is likely gone but keeping Pace? I figured they would let both guys go. Pace has drafted ok. Like any GM he has had hits and misses. Free agent wise he has performed fine too. I don't think Ryan Pace is a bad GM but I am not sure how good he is either. If they want to give him one more year with Fields and a new HC I can buy into that. His biggest mistake was drafting Mitch Trubisky over Mahomes or Watson BUT look... sometimes you get Mitch Trubisky and sometimes you get Josh Allen. Allen is the rare homerun where the more common outcome is a strikeout but I get why they did it. Personally I stick with headier and more accurate types at QB but I get it. If it were me I would get rid of both Nagy and Pace but at the very least I would can Nagy. (I would have canned him last year)
No surprise that Nagy is likely gone but keeping Pace? I figured they would let both guys go. Pace has drafted ok. Like any GM he has had hits and misses. Free agent wise he has performed fine too. I don't think Ryan Pace is a bad GM but I am not sure how good he is either. If they want to give him one more year with Fields and a new HC I can buy into that. His biggest mistake was drafting Mitch Trubisky over Mahomes or Watson BUT look... sometimes you get Mitch Trubisky and sometimes you get Josh Allen. Allen is the rare homerun where the more common outcome is a strikeout but I get why they did it. Personally I stick with headier and more accurate types at QB but I get it. If it were me I would get rid of both Nagy and Pace but at the very least I would can Nagy. (I would have canned him last year)
I also think both should go and you can't really fire the GM and not the coach but man, Pace's record is even worse. He had three awful years before Nagy got there, drafted Trubisky, and didn't win enough (one division title, no playoff wins and a participation trophy appearance last year) with how much he went all in. There's still time for Fields to turn it around but he's been absolutely atrocious and they gave up a first next year to move up. I could see Nagy getting a second chance. I wouldn't give Pace one.
I think Nagy is worse than Pace, but nothing Pace has done makes him attractive to coaches, or justifies extending him. I think you need to go get a new GM with a new plan, and then hire a coach to fit that plan.
Having moved to Minnesota and watched most of the vikings this season (out of quarantined boredom), I have to say I'm stunned by how many times Zimmer appeared to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The defense is a mess, but the offense is what has me puzzled more than anything.
To wit, here are two player comparisons, which one is Brady and which one is Cousins?
Player A: 66,9 percent completion, 7.3 yards per attempt, 1.8% interceptions, 5.9% touchdowns, 7.27 ANY/A
Player B: 66.4 percent completion, 7.4 yards per attempt, 1.3% interceptions, 5.4% touchdowns, 7.24 ANY/A
Another comparison, one is Ezekiel Elliot and another is Dalvin Cook:
Player A: 235 attempts, 1080 yards, 6 TDs, 3 fumbles, 4.6 Y/A
Player B: 237 attempts, 1002 yards, 10 TDs, 1 fumble, 4.2 Y/A
Yet, despite receiving performances equivalent to Brady and Elliot, the vikings are somehow a middling offense, only scoring on 39.5 percent of drives.
The Vikings led by at least six points in each of their first 14 games and seven in all but one of them. They’re 7-9. Just…how?
We have one of the best defenses in the league, if his last name wasn't Belichick there is zero chance anyone even considered him anything but a rising star
Right? I know people detest nepotism but sometimes coaches kids turn out to be awesome themselves. Just like Steve’s dad did.
Zimmer and Nagy the first causalties of the day...
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Wasn't 100% sure that either franchise would move on, but glad they are. Both teams can do better.
Flores out, per Schefter. I'm surprised.
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Unless there's something going on we don't know about, I like when divisional opponents seem to make bad decisions.
That’s stupid.
He gets three years, in which he makes the program respectable, but he gets canned because they picked Tua over Herbert and fucked up the OL.
He did seem to ruffle feathers; you hope that wasn’t the motivating factor.
He gets three years, in which he makes the program respectable, but he gets canned because they picked Tua over Herbert and fucked up the OL.
He did seem to ruffle feathers; you hope that wasn’t the motivating factor.
Stephen Ross is an absolute joke. Brian Flores has done a good job there. Maybe their GM should have picked Herbert over Tua.
I wonder if part of Miami's thinking is that with Tua, two playmaking WRs, and a lot of progress overall they might be the most appealing HC slot this offseason, and thus a unique chance to "upgrade?" All up against the question of 'did he play nice behind scenes' as Dolphins wanted
That is not to say I agree---I think Flores did a good job and likely is a better coach than who they will end up with. But given there did seem to be some rumors about him ruffling feathers, just trying to diagnose what they might have been thinking.
That is not to say I agree---I think Flores did a good job and likely is a better coach than who they will end up with. But given there did seem to be some rumors about him ruffling feathers, just trying to diagnose what they might have been thinking.
If they think Tua is a draw, theyre delusional. Hes not good. Flores and staff did a great job creating a system he could work in and compete in the NFL. I cant tell if something happened from his hip injury or Alabama hid a ton of it, but he really struggles throwing downfield as well as outside the numbers.
Shocking decision.
I'm not going to say it over there because that's supposed to be a safe space for their fans but the Dolphins firing Flores but keeping Grier is the best possible news for the Pats in division. So long as the other teams keep making shortsighted snap decisions they'll have to hit the lottery on draft day to catch the Patriots. So Thank you Dolphins! 
I thought Flores had done a pretty remarkable job with the young talent on that team. I think he deserved another year.
My guess is they’re planning to trade for Watson and they want to hit the refresh button with someone that can work specifically with his skill set for the next few years. Otherwise, I just don’t see how this makes a whole lot of sense. They’d just won eight of their last nine games.
My guess is they’re planning to trade for Watson and they want to hit the refresh button with someone that can work specifically with his skill set for the next few years. Otherwise, I just don’t see how this makes a whole lot of sense. They’d just won eight of their last nine games.
Unless there’s some underlying cause or issue we don’t know about, this is a stupid and impulsive move by Ross.. More proof that being the lucky sperm, or having success in another field doesn’t translate to knowing WTF your doing in this field.. Flores appears to be an excellent young coach, and if he doesn’t get another HC job right away, bring him back Bill.
First back to back winning seasons in Miami in like 20 years and Flores is out. What a stunningly stupid and short-sighted decision.
If Harbaugh is going anywhere, I can’t imagine that Miami would be his choice.
And yes, I know they have a personal relationship because Ross is such a big donor to Michigan. Which, again, makes it odd that he would try to sign their coach away from the school. But Ross gotta Ross.
I think the interest/interviews he'll get from any of the other teams with vacancies will make this unlikely. I hope you're right, though.
Why would you fire Flores and keep the GM?
I was not happy about the idea of Flores in the division for the next 20 years, so this is great from a Pats perpective.
Now bring him back for the Playoffs and let him help on the D (even if Mia sucked vs Buf)
I was not happy about the idea of Flores in the division for the next 20 years, so this is great from a Pats perpective.
Now bring him back for the Playoffs and let him help on the D (even if Mia sucked vs Buf)
Flores will have his pick of any job opening he wants. Houston is a strong possibility, but I wouldn't rule out Chicago or Denver.