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I talked about this before - Harbaugh was always getting a new deal. The problem (from his perspective) is that a new deal would preclude a move to the NFL any time soon because his buyout will be significant. (It was virtually nothing after last year) So if he wanted to explore it, this was the year.
Michigan presented him with a new contract that apparently gave him everything he asked for a month ago. They have been waiting to see if he was going to sign it or go to the NFL.
The point is that he wasn’t looking at the NFL for leverage. There just wasn’t a fit. (At least not with the Vikings.)
Harbaugh worked with the new Vikings GM back with the 49ers. So it was assumed that Harbaugh was the leader in the clubhouse. However, apparently one of the Vikings minority owners (with prior ties to Michigan) was firm in his belief that Harbaugh was a polarizing/abrasive figure and firmly communicated that he felt other candidates would be better suited to the job. There was also (allegedly) a question as to whether Harbaugh’s perceived “old school” coaching approach would be a fit with a new executive team with a strong analytics lean.
Harbaugh allegedly spent the past two days prepping with the Michigan QB Coach (Matt Weiss), who has NFL ties and is apparently the resident analytics expert on the Michigan field staff.
(edit: all this per @michiganinsider and @Johnubacon)
So whatever went down today, he had to overcome some questions regarding his ability to play well with others as well as his ability to function optimally with a “modern“ NFL front office.
One (or both) of the Vikings and Harbaugh didn’t hear what they needed to hear today. Looks like KOC will get the nod. There’s also more kerosene to be poured on the Flores fire here, as Patrick Graham and Raheem Morris were the other two candidates who supposedly have been rejected.
Harbaugh allegedly spent the past two days prepping with the Michigan QB Coach (Matt Weiss), who has NFL ties and is apparently the resident analytics expert on the Michigan field staff.
(edit: all this per @michiganinsider and @Johnubacon)
So whatever went down today, he had to overcome some questions regarding his ability to play well with others as well as his ability to function optimally with a “modern“ NFL front office.
One (or both) of the Vikings and Harbaugh didn’t hear what they needed to hear today. Looks like KOC will get the nod. There’s also more kerosene to be poured on the Flores fire here, as Patrick Graham and Raheem Morris were the other two candidates who supposedly have been rejected.
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I think the Vikes dodged a bullet here to be honest. Harbaugh’s offense was… I dunno what the best word is, stagnant? at Michigan. Boring. Lacking innovation. He didn’t really produce any good QBs. Not sure why he would be expected to come in and do well again.
There was nothing honorary about it. They named him a legit captain that game.
I always thought Peterson was a better coach than what happened in Philly. I guess now we'll find out if he is.
I like the hire, but if it was only because they found someone who'd work with/under Baalke, Khan has screwed this up yet again.
I like the hire, but if it was only because they found someone who'd work with/under Baalke, Khan has screwed this up yet again.
This feels a lot like when the Eagles hired him to replace Chip Kelly. He had a rep as a players coach who is the polar opposite of the college coach they had just fired during the season. This is also the 2nd time he is working for a GM who is trying to fix his reputation (Howie Roseman had been banished to the administrative side of the building the year before)
The Jaguars interviewed nine other candidates: Jaguars interim head coach Darrell Bevell, Tampa Bay defensive coordinator Todd Bowles, Tampa Bay offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich, Green Bay offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, Indianapolis defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, former Indianapolis and Detroit head coach Jim Caldwell, Dallas offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, former Las Vegas interim head coach Rich Bisaccia, and Alabama offensive coordinator and former Houston head coach Bill O'Brien.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33212063/jacksonville-jaguars-hiring-doug-pederson-head-coach
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33212063/jacksonville-jaguars-hiring-doug-pederson-head-coach
Pederson seems like a good hire for a team wanting to see if their young QB can reach his potential.
I have no problem with that Doug Peterson hire as he helped develop Wentz and has a super bowl but man it’s likely going to be 0 for 9 on minority hires this off-season and that really isn’t good for the NFL.
I tweeted this last night:
View: https://twitter.com/davearchie/status/1489442221875150855
"By my count, of the last five NFL head coach hiring cycles (including this one), total 33 non-interim hires, we've got a grand total of THREE black head coach hires. Two were fired after only one season. The third just sued the NFL for discrimination."
View: https://twitter.com/davearchie/status/1489442221875150855
"By my count, of the last five NFL head coach hiring cycles (including this one), total 33 non-interim hires, we've got a grand total of THREE black head coach hires. Two were fired after only one season. The third just sued the NFL for discrimination."
If Khan hired O'Brien, giving him some control of personnel, having already had Baalke, would a rift have opened up in the field in Jacksonville and 200 foot high flames come pouring out? Because that would have to be the worst combo of management in the history of sports.
Mitch Albom caught up with Jim Harbaugh at a hotel in Minneapolis:
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/mitch-albom/2022/02/04/mitch-albom-jim-harbaugh-michigan-football-nfl-minnesota-vikings/6645110001/
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/columnists/mitch-albom/2022/02/04/mitch-albom-jim-harbaugh-michigan-football-nfl-minnesota-vikings/6645110001/
Wow! An actual click-bait post.
What was the gist of the conversation for those of us not willing or inclined to read the entire thing?
Basically that Harbaugh is committed to Michigan and that he was totally transparent with his team and U of M throughout the process. Winning a Super Bowl is something that “tugged” at him . He won’t be looking at the NFL again as long as Michigan wants him.
I’ve watched a lot of Wentz games living in Eagles country and aside from his MVP caliber play before he got hurt in ‘17, he’s been a very frustrating player to watch. His comp is probably Romo, with a lot of the same issues in clutch situations/4thQ.
This feels unfair to Romo. Career numbers are far better. Career rating 97.1 and 7.03 ANY/A to 90.1 and 5.98. And Wentz plays in a better passing environment
Got anything more than this to add? We've been told game thread style postings aren't what we're looking for.
Niners just hired Anthony Lynn as assistant head coach. Rumor is he’ll design the running game with Lance at the helm.
I bring this up as it’s a possible indicator that coach McD might be heading out…
I bring this up as it’s a possible indicator that coach McD might be heading out…
Niners currently have a bi-racial OC, black DC, black assistant head coach and recently developed the first Lebanese Muslim head coach (Saleh).
Shanahan does at least seem to be using his nepotism privilege for good.
Seahawks promote DL coach Clint Hurtt to DC.
I don't know that much about him, but a corpse is a better DC than Ken Norton Jr, so I expect Clint will be a significant improvement.
Plus it seems their bringing in other Vic Fangio assistants from the Bears, which may not be good considering it was the mid-2010s Bears and not the 1985 Bears.
I don't know that much about him, but a corpse is a better DC than Ken Norton Jr, so I expect Clint will be a significant improvement.
Plus it seems their bringing in other Vic Fangio assistants from the Bears, which may not be good considering it was the mid-2010s Bears and not the 1985 Bears.
Thats a good spot for him. The Raiders defense is a lot better than the Giants.
Yes but I can see why he did it. The Raiders defense has more talent than the Giants and is coming off the playoffs.
Maybe he wanted no part of the NYG mess and , having worked with Josh before, things just lined up well for a positive move
The Niners also had an openly LBGT female assistant coach for a few years (Katie Sowers).
The things that were leaked about Flores are pretty concerning if you’re looking to hire a head coach that will play nicely with everyone in house.
The question is how much of that is accurate? Teams likely have to do some due diligence on Flores before jumping into the deep end of the pool with him.
If the Texans or Saints feel comfortable with him or believe the things that were leaked were either overblown or false, then he should be getting a job.
Of course, this was all before he filed a suit against the league and made some very serious allegations. He may have managed to scare off the rest of his suitors on his own by doing that.
I don’t think anyone disagrees with the bolded, but the stories being leaked about him (which you mentioned) are inexorably linked to the reasons behind the suit itself.
And with that, I’ll refrain from commenting further because we have a different thread for it.
Decent with the Bears, terrible with the Bucs and brutal at the University of Illinois. Never thought he would get another NFL head coaching gig.
I can’t remember the particulars of his TB stint, but he improved by 4 wins from year 1 to year 2 then got canned, which on its surface appears to be another data point in the “black coaches don’t get the same chances” argument. Again I don’t remember how or why they were so bad his first year so it’s possible the firing was justified, but they improved a lot year 1 to year 2.
They drafted Jameis Winston in between his first and second year so that was the bump. It’s interesting because Jason Licht hired Lovie Smith and then fired him after year 2 for Dirk Koetter.
Oh that’s right they were worried about losing Koetter IIRC so they fired Lovie to prevent that.
