2024 NBA Draft
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Since today is the "who is gonna draft Bronny" day, let me say that I absolutely do not want the circus that follows as a Knicks fan. If they believe he has real talent, then okay, but there is just no need for the distraction.
The national media drags the Celtics all the time. If they're going to be villainized regardless, in this case, is there any downside here? It already happens.
Yeah, spending a pick on a guy who will (through no fault of his own) be a distraction and a magnet for gossip and baloney on a team that doesn't need it. If their legit scouting assessment is he's a good pick, that's ok....they can deal with the above. But otherwise, it's a hassle to have the circus in town and they don't need the attention. If you're (say) Charlotte you're happy anyone notices you; if you're the Suns you might figure it gets coverage off of the crappy rest of your roster. But we don't need the mess here.
Lighting your relationship with Klutch on fire for a future eastern european professional league bench player doesn't seem like a good idea.
Even if one doesn't agree with many of the points made in this post, it is cast fucking iron.
I’m not going to lie, when Dalton Knecht began sliding, and the rumors popped that Philly might trade #16, I was hoping that Boston would trade up to replace Hauser (long term) with their very own Landsknecht. But I’m fine with the guy whose name I’m not going to attempt on my phone. BS has a year to improve his conditioning and to learn to play acceptable D so that he’s ready after Miami offers Hauser a 4/64 deal to sign there next summer.
I didn't watch Hauser at all in college but was he launching them from 25+' like Scheierman did?
I don't know who is a better shooter but I can say that among JB, PP, Hauser, and Scheierman, the 3P shooting contests after Cs practices are going to be legendary.
DJ Burns to CLE as free agent. This and other notable post-draft signings in article below.
View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10126365-undrafted-nba-free-agents-2024-latest-details-on-top-rookie-signings
View: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10126365-undrafted-nba-free-agents-2024-latest-details-on-top-rookie-signings
My quick hit thoughts are Minnesota and Utah “won” the draft, while Miami, Philly and LAL found the best value/roster fits.
I was confused by what San Antonio and OKC did, and I’m surprised Washington bet so big on such a lousy draft. Detroit got a great player but it’s an awful fit.
I was confused by what San Antonio and OKC did, and I’m surprised Washington bet so big on such a lousy draft. Detroit got a great player but it’s an awful fit.
Same franchise as Hot Plate Williams played for (although he was in shape at that time, the beginning of the career). Apropos. Good louck, Dj, hope you make the
Apparently lost 45 pounds since the season ended. NC State's DJ Burns Has Lost 45 Pounds In Preparation for the NBA Draft - Pack Insider
Will be interesting to see how he plays in summer league.
The John Williams that played for Cleveland was John Hot Rod Williams, who was such an expert at shaving that he got an endorsement deal from Gillette. Cleveland drafted him in ‘85 (and I can’t tell you how much I wanted Boston to grab the guy with the talent to have been a top 3 pick with their #1)
John Hot Plate Williams was drafted by the Bullets the following year in the Draft That Shall Remain Nameless. And the Bullets got lucky that their guy was only addicted to triple cheeseburgers. Due to Hot Rod’s legal troubles their careers started the same season.
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The posts on predicting NBA 3P% have been moved to:
https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/predicting-nba-3-point-success.43152/
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Sam Vecenie's draft grades in The Athletic:
Boston Celtics
• Selected Baylor Scheierman (No. 30) and Anton Watson (No. 54)
Just an extremely smart draft for the Celtics. No other way to put it. It was simple, and their selections fit right into the offensive and defensive styles that made them the best team in the NBA this season.
Boston was seen as Scheierman’s floor entering draft night at No. 30 by front office sources across the league, and that indeed came to fruition on Wednesday night as the Creighton wing fell to them. He fits everything that the organization has looked for from its role players under Joe Mazzulla. The team values the 3-point shot more than any other in the league due to its spacing impact for stars Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Scheierman is one of the best shooters in the draft class, an all-situations marksman that hit 37.9 percent of his pull-up 3s, 40.6 percent of his 3s off of screens, 44.2 percent of his transition 3s, 56.5 percent of his 3s out of ball-screens, and 37.5 percent of his 3s out of hand-offs. Bizarrely, he only made 35 percent of his spot 3s, but given how adept he is in all other situations, that feels aberrant. On top of that, I think Scheierman can really pass, and makes really quick decisions around the horn on reversals in the way Boston loves as it keeps teams in rotation. Defensively, he’s strong and physical, but he’s more in the Sam Hauser mode of just merely holding up on that end as opposed to making an elite impact. I had him at No. 22 on my board, so I thought this was a serious steal for the Celtics.
Watson is one of my favorite sleepers. I thought he’d end up as more of an undrafted free agent, but the Celtics decided to take him at No. 54 where he’ll likely be on a two-way deal. I think he can defend within an NBA scheme right away and has potential to add a lot of value on that end of the court if his offense improves enough to keep him on the floor. He’s switchable and long, plus knows where to be in help. He also passes well and makes quick decisions along the perimeter. His future will all be determined by where he gets to as a shooter. He showed flashes this year and made 41 percent from distance, but it was over minuscule volume. He’s a project, but an interesting one to undertake given how good he is on defense. I had him at No. 64, but think he was undervalued throughout the process.
Grade: B+
Boston Celtics
• Selected Baylor Scheierman (No. 30) and Anton Watson (No. 54)
Just an extremely smart draft for the Celtics. No other way to put it. It was simple, and their selections fit right into the offensive and defensive styles that made them the best team in the NBA this season.
Boston was seen as Scheierman’s floor entering draft night at No. 30 by front office sources across the league, and that indeed came to fruition on Wednesday night as the Creighton wing fell to them. He fits everything that the organization has looked for from its role players under Joe Mazzulla. The team values the 3-point shot more than any other in the league due to its spacing impact for stars Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. Scheierman is one of the best shooters in the draft class, an all-situations marksman that hit 37.9 percent of his pull-up 3s, 40.6 percent of his 3s off of screens, 44.2 percent of his transition 3s, 56.5 percent of his 3s out of ball-screens, and 37.5 percent of his 3s out of hand-offs. Bizarrely, he only made 35 percent of his spot 3s, but given how adept he is in all other situations, that feels aberrant. On top of that, I think Scheierman can really pass, and makes really quick decisions around the horn on reversals in the way Boston loves as it keeps teams in rotation. Defensively, he’s strong and physical, but he’s more in the Sam Hauser mode of just merely holding up on that end as opposed to making an elite impact. I had him at No. 22 on my board, so I thought this was a serious steal for the Celtics.
Watson is one of my favorite sleepers. I thought he’d end up as more of an undrafted free agent, but the Celtics decided to take him at No. 54 where he’ll likely be on a two-way deal. I think he can defend within an NBA scheme right away and has potential to add a lot of value on that end of the court if his offense improves enough to keep him on the floor. He’s switchable and long, plus knows where to be in help. He also passes well and makes quick decisions along the perimeter. His future will all be determined by where he gets to as a shooter. He showed flashes this year and made 41 percent from distance, but it was over minuscule volume. He’s a project, but an interesting one to undertake given how good he is on defense. I had him at No. 64, but think he was undervalued throughout the process.
Grade: B+
The Filipowski story seems like it has potential to be a real circus. Seems like his fiance started dating him when he was 16 and she was 24 or 25. Seems highly suspect that she saw him as a meal ticket. There is the added allegation of “grooming” him to convert to Mormonism, but that could also just be the result of anti-Mormon bias.
Very interesting that Ainge drafted him for Utah. Maybe Filipowski felt more comfortable talking about the situation with Ainge in the interviews, and it gave Ainge more comfort than other teams that there is no fire, just smoke, to this story.
Very interesting that Ainge drafted him for Utah. Maybe Filipowski felt more comfortable talking about the situation with Ainge in the interviews, and it gave Ainge more comfort than other teams that there is no fire, just smoke, to this story.
John Hot Rod Williams got in a kerfuffle right before the draft, and played in the USBL for the Newport Gulls that summer, with teammates Manute Bol and Spud Web, partly to rehabilitate his rep. I used to go to every game. He basically used his time in that league to shoot three pointers. The high school gym they played in was so small that Hot Rod had to stand on his toes to shoot the corner three. His feet were too big to fit on the floor between the arc and the sideline At a time where guys that big tended to not be three level scorers, this guy had a solid offensive game. When he deigned to play some offense inside the arc, he was dynamite.
The following season, the team moved to Warwick and played at the community college arena. That team featured Muggsy Bogues. The team folded after the season.
“Kerfuffle” is an interesting choice of words. Hot Rod was arrested on allegations of point shaving and was unable to play in the NBA while his criminal case was pending. Hecwas eventually acquitted - https://www.upi.com/amp/Archives/1986/06/16/John-Hot-Rod-Williams-acquitted-Monday-of-sports-bribery/1223519278400/ - but the Tulane bball program was shuttered because of it.
The prosecutor had the view that Hot Rod shaved points. Hot Rod had the view that he didn’t. That was the kerfuffle lol
I often like to dream of what ‘87 would have looked like if Boston had picked Hot Rod in ‘85 and Len Bias had stayed away from coke. McHale’s career would have had a different ending if he hadn’t played that year on a broken foot, and they would have sent him to the bench to rest and recover if they had two other guys ready to absorb all those minutes.
As an Edey skeptic I've been a bit surprised by the level of draftnik and team support for Edey.
I do think part of that is different assessments; part of it is also whether you're solving for regular season or playoffs, I suspect. Edey may be able to be a useful guy regular season especially for teams with weaker rim protection; I have my doubts, but can see it. I still don't see a reason to think he can play many meaningful playoff minutes---which some teams care about and others do not.
Agree with HRB, will be ineresting to see...Edey is very much swimming against the currentfor bigs, but I do get that his size and conditioning pose problems for smaller teams, too
I do think part of that is different assessments; part of it is also whether you're solving for regular season or playoffs, I suspect. Edey may be able to be a useful guy regular season especially for teams with weaker rim protection; I have my doubts, but can see it. I still don't see a reason to think he can play many meaningful playoff minutes---which some teams care about and others do not.
Agree with HRB, will be ineresting to see...Edey is very much swimming against the currentfor bigs, but I do get that his size and conditioning pose problems for smaller teams, too