2024 Seahawks: Better late than never

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Figured it was time to get a Seahawks thread going since we are two games into the season and the team has shown marked improvement over both last year and what expectations were for this year.

I am beyond thrilled with how the offense looks after the failed Shane Waldron experiment. Ryan Grubb showed flashes of brilliance in play calling adjustments in both the first and second games of the season but it was especially evident during the 2nd game when it became apparent that the run game was not going to do anything. That shift results in the first time ever that two Seahawks receivers have 10+ catches and 100+ yards in the same game.

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That shift results in the first time ever that two Seahawks receivers have 10+ catches and 100+ yards in the same game.
Really?

Steve Largent never pulled this off with someone else? (mmmmm... Brian Blades? That squirrelly guy whose name is escaping me?)

I wonder how close Largent's best sidekick got to this
 
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Really?

Steve Largent never pulled this off with someone else? (mmmmm... Brian Blades? That squirrelly guy who's name escaped me?)

I wonder how close Largent's best sidekick got to this
Blades is the who I would have thought but Largent and Blades only crossed two seasons (1988 and 1989) and Largent was well on the back end of his career by then.

A quick review of games show this is a pretty rare occurrence for some teams as that feat has only been done 25 total time since 1970. 15 teams have never achieved the feat, one team (MIN) has achieved it three times, six teams (KC, PIT, HOU, DEN, NYG, DAL) have achieved it twice, and ten teams (SEA, MIA, LAR, NOR, ATL, NEW, ARI, CIN, WAS, CHI) have achieved it once
 

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My biggest takeaway from the season so far is.....

I thought Waldron was a mediocre OC.... I was wrong, he was much worse. SEA looks great with a new OC, and Waldron is committing crimes against football in CHI.
 

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I think 13-4 would get it done
If you're inferring that they lose 4 games to the Niners/Rams and win the rest, well, I've got a bridge to sell you.

They've had the Lions' number the last couple of years, so a complete effort should be a win, especially if LaPorta is out.

It still comes down to Thursday night against the Niners in week 6. If they can win that one, they are a legit threat in the NFC.
 

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yeah seattle is in the place i thought denver was at the end of 2020 esp in the nfc geno is a good qb but to win another super bowl u need a upgrade u have to draft a qb with your 1st round pick let say your pick is between 21-24 that QB from Miami or BC couild work for u guys
 

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Never say never, but I think there's only a 0.00001% chance that John Schneider would spend a first round pick on a QB. And they'll probably never be in the position to pick that guy (#1 overall).
 

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The way they played against the Giants leads me to believe this team is shit and has no heart. They are going to get destroyed on Thursday by 30 or 40.
 

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The score ended up relatively close, but they were never in the game.

This team is a serious threat for 3-14 right now. Only winnable games left are @Falcons next week (not likely since the whole team doesn't have their shit together and nothing will be fixed in a week), @ Jets and the home game against the Cardinals (the Cards home stadium is their personal house of horrors). Real easy to see a top pick in their future.
 

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The score ended up relatively close, but they were never in the game.

This team is a serious threat for 3-14 right now. Only winnable games left are @Falcons next week (not likely since the whole team doesn't have their shit together and nothing will be fixed in a week), @ Jets and the home game against the Cardinals (the Cards home stadium is their personal house of horrors). Real easy to see a top pick in their future.
Bro they are not going 3-14
 

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Yeah, I'm not saying they're good or anything but they also just got caught in one of those unconstitutional three games in 11 days stretches. Two were against good teams (the Niners have underperformed, but they were still relatively healthy) and the Giants game, although a bad loss, was in the worst spot imaginable coming off MNF with a TNF division game on deck. As it showed, they were also really banged up on defense for all of it. The schedule is a bear and they're probably not making the playoffs, but they also won't come close to losing out.
 

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Is there any chance they trade Metcalf? Local media is starting to beat that drum and if they aren't making the playoffs anyway, it seems like it could be an idea. On the flip side, I keep seeing the Steelers as a landing spot - and Russell and DK did not get along based on all accounts, so I'm not sure about that one.
 

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Is there any chance they trade Metcalf? Local media is starting to beat that drum and if they aren't making the playoffs anyway, it seems like it could be an idea. On the flip side, I keep seeing the Steelers as a landing spot - and Russell and DK did not get along based on all accounts, so I'm not sure about that one.
They don't really need him (and of course they are a hated franchise), but DK on the Ravens would be interesting, or maybe Houston.
 

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Is there any chance they trade Metcalf? Local media is starting to beat that drum and if they aren't making the playoffs anyway, it seems like it could be an idea. On the flip side, I keep seeing the Steelers as a landing spot - and Russell and DK did not get along based on all accounts, so I'm not sure about that one.
I'm not opposed to it since he's going to ask for top 5 WR money and he has so many penalties and drops and mental errors that I just don't think he's worth it. It probably won't happen during the season unless someone wants to overpay. But I don't see Schneider giving him another contract.
 

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This team is a fucking disgrace, can't step up when they need to. Geno needs to be traded or benched. The guy has made more errors this year than any of this year's rookies.
 

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This team is a fucking disgrace, can't step up when they need to. Geno needs to be traded or benched. The guy has made more errors this year than any of this year's rookies.
While he has been struggling....
View: https://twitter.com/minakimes/status/1853314244072071317


The SEA O-line is right there with the Patriots in terms of just instant loss plays. Geno to me had 2 bad decisions, and 1 decision I thought might not have been bad but he got hit. But the basic answer to me is that very few QBs could give you more than Geno, and none of them are backups.
 

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To me, that's no excuse. Geno KNOWS his OL sucks and yet he continues to put himself in situations he can't get out of and makes the worst decision possible. I count 4-6 boneheaded plays by him in EVERY game and it's frustrating to deal with. He accepts responsibility, then does NOTHING to fix the problems. People continue to make excuses for him and it's tiring. At some point, he has to take the fall for the offense being pathetic.

They have an average LT and the rest of the line is among the worst in the league, when you factor in Connor Williams' snap issues. Losing George Fant early in the game turned out to be a disaster, since Jerrell clearly wasn't prepared to back him up at RT after starting the last couple of weeks and mostly not being awful. That part is on him and the coaching staff. This team is consistently unprepared for anything. Sometimes they can make adjustments at halftime, sometimes not. That's on the coaches too. Macdonald needs to learn how to coach again and fast.
 

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C Connor Williams retired today, due to personal issues and not residual problems with his knee from last year's injury.

Best of luck to him, I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision.

Olu Oluwatimi takes over for him at center.
 

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Seahawks win a game against the Jets that no one seemed to want to win, and certainly nether team deserved to win, to go to 7-5 and a 1 game lead on the Rams and Cardinals after the Rams beat the Saints and the Cardinals lost to the Vikings.

Special teams were an absolute disaster. If Football Outsiders still existed, I'd bet the farm it was the worst ST DVOA in one game in their history. Defense continues to improve and Leonard Williams has led the charge. He has been a monster the past few weeks, getting 2 sacks in this game and a ridiculous 92-yard pick-6 of Rodgers that was the longest pick-6 by a DL ever.

Offense is still a problem, the run game just cannot get anything going and they just abandon it regularly. The OL is still a work in progress. This week they had a rookie at RG who had never played a snap in a regular season NFL game. He had 1 really bad false start penalty on a 4th and 1, but otherwise didn't stick out badly, or at least any worse than the rest of the line. Both tackles allowed a sack, but overall they are the strength of the line, for what it's worth.

Key game this week at the Seahawks House of Horrors in Glendale, AZ. A win effectively gives them a 3 game lead on the Cardinals with a sweep of their series. The rest of the schedule is a bear (literally, in 1 week's case), hosting GB and MIN, then finishing @CHI on a short week and @ LAR. The 3 road games are the most important, especially the 2 division games.
 

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Seahawks win a game against the Jets that no one seemed to want to win, and certainly nether team deserved to win, to go to 7-5 and a 1 game lead on the Rams and Cardinals after the Rams beat the Saints and the Cardinals lost to the Vikings.

Special teams were an absolute disaster. If Football Outsiders still existed, I'd bet the farm it was the worst ST DVOA in one game in their history. Defense continues to improve and Leonard Williams has led the charge. He has been a monster the past few weeks, getting 2 sacks in this game and a ridiculous 92-yard pick-6 of Rodgers that was the longest pick-6 by a DL ever.

Offense is still a problem, the run game just cannot get anything going and they just abandon it regularly. The OL is still a work in progress. This week they had a rookie at RG who had never played a snap in a regular season NFL game. He had 1 really bad false start penalty on a 4th and 1, but otherwise didn't stick out badly, or at least any worse than the rest of the line. Both tackles allowed a sack, but overall they are the strength of the line, for what it's worth.

Key game this week at the Seahawks House of Horrors in Glendale, AZ. A win effectively gives them a 3 game lead on the Cardinals with a sweep of their series. The rest of the schedule is a bear (literally, in 1 week's case), hosting GB and MIN, then finishing @CHI on a short week and @ LAR. The 3 road games are the most important, especially the 2 division games.
Sea and den are a lot like this year
 

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At least you have a promising future at QB. :)
true i wouild love to be in your div through SF is headed toward a rebuild Rams are too young overall and once they lose stafford mcbay will be a year or two behind zona with murrsy size once he loses his speed in 3-5 years zona could fall quick it might not be a bad idea in the offseason to sign wilson back to a 1 yr deal or keep smith for 25 and look to get a QB no later than 26
 

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An absolute disaster of a game from the jump. They got pwned up and down the field the entire game and the 4 game win streak comes to an end with a whimper 30-13 at home against Green Bay. This team has no business making the playoffs, and given they have to get trounced at home (again) by the Vikings next week, and don't look anywhere near as good as the Rams, it looks like their season will end at 9-8, or maybe 8-9 if they decide to punt at Chicago. Their home record this year is 3-5 with the Vikings game to go.

Their home schedule has just been atrocious:

Win in Bo Nix's NFL debut
Win against Tua-less Dolphins team
Loss to a 2 win Giants team (so half of their wins)
Pasted by semi-healthy Niners team
Pasted by a really good Bills team
Beat by a not-so-healthy at the time Rams team
Win vs the Cardinals in their probably best home effort of the year
And dominated by the Packers

A really enjoyable possibility is if the Seahawks even got a miracle against the Vikings, beat the Bears and lose to the Rams, the Rams beat the Jets and Seahawks, and the Cardinals run the table with wins against the Panthers, Rams and Niners, the Cardinals (who Seattle beat twice) would win the three-way tie in the division at 10-7 by something like the 6th tiebreaker.

Geno getting hurt is going to be a big problem, which makes my stomach churn to say, because Sam Howell looked completely unprepared to play. Their 3rd and 4th string guys are even bigger zeroes than Howell. Geno wasn't good even healthy and now unless Howell can respond positively, this season is over. The team definitely needs an enema, as about half the team is overpaid and not earning their money.
 

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Seahawks eliminated from the playoffs last night after Atlanta lost to Washington. They blew a winnable game against the Vikings, and barely got by the Bears to get into this position. They end the season at the Rams, which they'll probably win because they gain nothing by doing so. The Rams will find out before the game starts if they need to win to keep the 3 seed.

Issues they need to resolve for next year:

1. Fix the running game. It was abysmal this year despite having two highly drafted running backs. Some of it is playcalling/sequencing. The rest is the horrible interior offensive line. They used a third round pick on Christian Haynes, who has only gotten on the field when there were injuries since about week 4. At left guard, they are starting a Jets reject, Laken Tomlinson, who is overpaid at $1.2 million and gets run over on a regular basis. At center, they signed Connor Williams who was passable until he retired mid-season, probably because he had to deal with that bad of an OL. He was replaced by Olu Oluwatimi, who was a 5th round pick in 2023 and who won the Outland Trophy and Rimington Trophy as the best OL and C in college. Yet he was a 5th round pick. At least he doesn't snap the ball over Geno's head. At RG, it's been a turnstile of Haynes rotating with Anthony Bradford, with both being terrible until Bradford got injured a month ago, and they resorted to a 6th round pick this year, Sataoa Laumea, who was a revelation compared to his competition at the position and still looks horrible at times. The tackles, Cross and Lucas (when healthy) are above-average, dare I say good. Not sure what it's going to take, but they need to get a lot better there.

2. Make a decision at QB. Geno only looks good because his competition (in the NFC) is pretty bad. He has a certain knack for brain farting at critical times and giving the ball to the other team, particularly under pressure. He's the Dave Krieg of his generation: he's overmatched as a full time QB, but a top backup who can be good for a half-dozen games per year. His cap number for next year is $38.5M and that's too much for someone of his caliber. Sam Howell looked like a deer in the headlights in his one appearance when Geno got hurt. There was hope that the Seahawks got a cheap deal on a potential long-term starting QB, but he didn't step up in that one appearance. Hopefully they give him the whole game against the Rams to see what he can do. John Schneider's MO has been to avoid drafting QBs (he's drafted 2 since 2010 - Russell Wilson and Alex McGough). They won't draft high enough to get the only decent options in this draft (Ward, Sanders), and I'm not sure there's anyone else in the draft that's even better than Howell, let alone Geno. So it's another year of WTF do they do at the position.

3. DK Metcalf is likely to force something to happen regarding his contract. 2025 is his last year. He'll expect to be paid a top-10 salary, maybe even a top-5 salary going forward. He's clearly not a top-5 receiver, he may not even be a top-20 receiver. For all the flashes of greatness he shows, they are far too infrequent and more than offset by the dumb things he does, including stupid penalties (many at critical times), running terrible routes, and letting the opposition get in his head and completely take him out of the game. JSN has stepped up to become the #1 receiver at this point, and they need to cut bait and get something for Metcalf while they still can. He's not a $30 million receiver, so find some sucker to trade for him and pay him that money. They'll need to backfill at the position anyway since Tyler Lockett has hit the over-30 cliff and is just about done, so JSN will need some complimentary players to help on offense.

4. Get rid of the overpaid deadwood on this team. There are way too many players on this team paid way too much for the production they provide. On offense, that includes Geno, DK, Lockett, Tomlinson, Noah Fant (who hasn't scored a TD since 2022), and George Fant. On defense it's Dre'Mont Jones, Uchenna Nwosu (who can't stay healthy enough to justify his salary), Rayshawn Jenkins, and Roy Robertson-Harris. They can clear something like $90 million in cap space by doing so. That needs to be a priority. And bring in some new talent.

5. Continue revamping the defense. After cycling through some LBs like Tyrel Dodson and Jerome Baker, they went to the trade market to get the guy they needed in the middle in Ernest Jones IV. The other inside LB was filled quite capably by rookie Tyrice Knight around mid-season, which is shocking how far he's come since preseason when he had no clue what he was doing. The Leonard Williams extension has been worth every penny, he's quietly had an All-Pro level season. Byron Murphy hasn't been the dominant force expected, but he's shown signs of being that player. Jarren Reed has been solid. On the edge, Boye Mafe and Derick Hall continue to develop, but they really need a top guy out there to make the overall pass rush effective. In the secondary, Devon Witherspoon has been fantastic, Julian Love has been solid, Coby Bryant has been really good since stepping in for an injured Rayshawn Jenkins early in the season. Riq Woolen has been the defense's version of DK Metcalf. Flashes of greatness more than offset by dumb plays and penalties. They need to decide if he needs to stay or get something for him. At least he's not going to be demanding $30 million a year. They will need some depth at corner going forward, as Tre Brown has pretty much flopped, Josh Jobe has been an okay scrap heap pickup and no one else has stepped up.

So their priorities for this offseason need to be: iOL, Edge, WR, CB, QB.
 

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Seahawks finish the season with a meaningless win against the Rams and their backup offense 30-25. Geno had arguably his best game of the season (20-27, 223 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT, only sacked twice). The good news was the offense scored 30 points against most of the defensive starters of the Rams. The bad news was they gave up 25 points to Jimmy G and the backups on offense for the Rams. Their reward for finishing 10-7 and out of the playoffs is the #18 pick in the draft.

The day after the game, OC Ryan Grubb was fired. I could see it going either way, give him another year to try and improve his approach, or cut bait and go another direction and the Hawks chose the other direction. Hopefully the replacement will work out better.

I was impressed with @Rudy's Curve's breakdown, so I'm going to steal the format and breakdown the current Seahawks situation, starting with the offense.

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Geno Smith - Geno had been the backup for Russell Wilson for a few years until Russell was traded. Then he won the starting job against Drew Lock and had a Pro Bowl season in 2022. He took a step back in 2023 and then set Seahawks season highs in yards passing, and completion percentage, among others this year. He also had 15 interceptions, which was 3rd in the league, just 1 behind Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield, and only 21 TD passes, which was tied for 13th out of the 19 QBs who played 15 or more games. He had at least another dozen or so passes that should have been interceptions and that's part of the problem with him. He makes some great plays, but also tends to fall apart under pressure, which was prevalent this season, as he was sacked the 3rd most of any QB (50). I compare him to Dave Krieg, a guy who is overmatched as a full-time starter, but is an excellent backup and is probably good for 6-8 games a year, although figuring out when you'd get those is a fool's errand. There's just too many boneheaded plays to count on him as any kind of a QB to get your team to the Super Bowl. He has 1 year left on his deal with a $44.5 million cap hit, which is untenable. He has a roster bonus of $10 million in March, so a decision needs to be made before then. I'm not sure if he has any trade value. If they cut him, they save $31 million on the cap, with a $13.5 million dead cap charge. He cashed in on $6 million on contract escalators with his last game against the Rams. The problem becomes if they get rid of him, what do they do in the interim? Sam Howell is not a likely option. Extending Geno probably means being on the same 9-8, 10-7 treadmill. But there isn't much available in FA or the draft. If they can trade him, they should do so. If they can't, I can't see extending him, so he's a cut and they start over. Realistically, they are still another year away from being any sort of serious competition, so they could probably kick the can down the street another year and see how the rest of the team does.

Sam Howell - Traded a 3rd and a 5th to Washington for Howell, a 4th (traded elsewhere) and a 6th (Sataoa Laumea). Got some reps against Green Bay when Geno hurt his knee and looked completely unprepared and awful. Maybe there's something there to develop, but it's hard to say. There's really no way they can go into next season with him as the starter, but he should be a useful backup.

RB
Kenneth Walker III - 2nd round pick in 2022, is very dynamic, but also very injury prone. Missed 6 games this year due to injury. Wasn't very effective when he was in there, some of which is the offensive line issues (but not all, given Charbonnet's and McIntosh's success with the same line), some of which is injury, but some may be a poor fit in this offense overall (which could be resolved by Grubb's firing), and Walker's decision making could use some improvement as well.

Zach Charbonnet - 2nd round pick in 2023, has been a solid back with some spectacular play. Seems to be a lot more durable than Walker and maybe they should switch it up and have Charbonnet start and Walker as a backup in something like a 60/40 split to keep Walker healthy and the duo more productive overall.

Kenny McIntosh - 7th round pick in 2023, injured and inactive most of his rookie year. Gotten a few opportunities this year with Walker's injuries and has flashed some good play, averaging 5.5 YPC in his 31 carries. Solid special teamer.

George Holani - UDFA signed out of Boise State, spent most of the year on the practice squad and can play special teams, so likely to hang around.

WR
DK Metcalf - 2nd round pick in 2019, has had over 900 yards receiving in all 6 years of his Seahawks career. Has the body of a Greek god marble statue and a head to match. He makes a lot of fantastic plays, although you'd think he be more physical and successful on contested catches. He also has a penchant for committing dumb penalties, running bad routes, and letting opposing DBs get to him mentally and take him out of the game. He has 1 year left on his deal (with 3 void years added in 2024 to save cap room) and he'll count for almost $32 million on the 2025 cap. On top of all that, he's seen how his WR peers have gotten bigger and bigger deals and is likely to ask for one like they have. So it's decision time, give him the big extension or try and trade him. I vote for trading him since I think his overall value is not worth the $30 million a year (at least) he'll require. Trade him for a pick, let the next team pay him, and draft his replacement.

Jaxon Smith-Njigba - #1 pick (#20 overall, 1st receiver taken in draft) in 2023, has developed into a #1 receiver. Runs the entire route tree and is great at getting separation from the slot. Has great hands and a bulldog mentality. A star in the making.

Tyler Lockett - 10 years with the Seahawks, but is starting to show signs of slowing down at age 32. They revised his contract into a 2 year deal to save cap space this year, but counts for a $30 million cap hit in 2025. Only 49 catches for 600 yards this year, so he's in the twilight of his career. He has a burgeoning real estate business in Seattle, so I'm sure he'd like to stay, but I don't see how with his deal. They'd save $17 million on the cap by cutting him, with a $13.895 million dead cap charge. If they can work something out, he'll probably stay as a 3rd or 4th WR. One of Seattle's all time greats, he's 2nd to Steve Largent in receptions, yards and receiving TDs in Seahawks history.

Jake Bobo - SIgned as a UDFA out of UCLA (after 4 years at Duke) in 2023, standard possession receiver type with good hands and can play on ST. Doesn't get a lot of targets and doesn't get a lot of separation, but catches pretty much anything anywhere near his hands.

Dareke Young - Ace special teamer that rarely gets offensive snaps.

Coby White - UDFA signed this season, had played sparingly in 2021-22 with Pittsburgh. Spent most of the year on the practice squad, but made a couple of nice catches in the last game against the Rams and should be back.

TE
Noah Fant - One of the players acquired in the Russell Wilson trade, he sure looks good on the field until it comes down to production. He can't really block much and he just disappears on the field when going out on passing routes. Scored his first touchdown since 2022 (!) in the last game against the Rams. He's got 1 more year on his deal, but I can't see devoting $13.5 million in cap room to him, he's not good enough to extend and they have a young guy ready to replace him next year (see below). He should be a cap casualty with $4.5 million in dead money, saving $9 million on the cap.

Pharoah Brown - FA signing this past offseason, supposedly a blocking tight end, which is supposed to be good since he can't catch, but he can't block either and is a waste of space on any roster. Signed a 1 year deal, should be gone, never to return.

AJ Barner - 4th round pick in 2024 out of Michigan, has shown a lot of potential as a pass catcher and blocker, although his pass catching skills are ahead of his blocking skills. Should be the starter next season.

Brady Russell - UDFA signed off the Eagles' practice squad in 2023, has developed into a quality ST player who could be fine as a 3rd TE, just hasn't had the opportunity yet.

OL
Charles Cross - 1st round pick in 2022, 9th overall. Has been solid if not spectacular. Has occasional footwork issues and still isn't a very good run blocker, mostly because in college all he did was pass protect in a run-and-shoot type offense at Mississippi State. 2025 will require a decision whether to pick up his 5th year option and/or extend him. I think he's good enough to keep long term, he may still develop into a top 5 or top 10 LT.

Laken Tomlinson - Absolutely worthless, even at the vet minimum he was paid after being signed as a FA from the Jets. Can't run block or pass block. And it says something about the state of the overall Seattle OL when he got to start all 17 games.

Olu Oluwatimi - 5th round pick in 2023, was the Outland and RImington Trophy winner at Michigan. Replaced Connor Williams when he retired mid-season. If nothing else, he didn't snap the ball over Geno's head once in his 8 weeks as a starter. Has some potential to be a decent player, but also not good enough that they couldn't afford to replace him either.

Sataoa Laumea - 6th round pick in 2024, was inactive the first 11 weeks of the season, but then they turned to him when starter Anthony Bradford got hurt, and backup Christian Haynes flopped as the 2nd stringer. He's been a revelation compared to Haynes and Bradford, but isn't that good. He has good moments and a bunch of bad ones. In the same realm as Oluwatimi in that there is potential there, but he could be replaced too.

Abe Lucas - 3rd round pick in 2022, had a serious knee injury last year and started the season on PUP, debuting in week 10 against SF and played 70% of the snaps, trying to ease him back into playing shape. Played 100% of snaps from weeks 11-16 and sat out the finale against the Rams. A really solid player when healthy.

Christian Haynes - A 3rd round pick in 2024, split snaps with Anthony Bradford early, but did nothing to impress anyone. He did get to finish the game where Bradford was injured, but was abysmal and was benched for the rest of the year. Needs to step up his game to avoid being cut, but a bench player at best right now.

George Fant - Signed to a 2 year deal to be the swing tackle, but got hurt in game 1, was put on IR and missed almost two months, then after being activated, was immediately hurt again in his only other appearance. Waste of money and should be a cap casualty.

Anthony Bradford - A 4th round pick in 2023, started the season at RG, splitting snaps with Christian Haynes until getting hurt week 11 and put on IR. Didn't do anything to really earn the job, will likely hang around as a backup.

Jalen Sundell - Backup center signed as a UDFA this year out of South Dakota St. Played 1 game at C when Oluwatimi was hurt mid-game, but otherwise was only used as an occasional 6th lineman in a jumbo package or on special teams.

Stone Forsythe - 6th round pick in 2021, has been a backup his entire career, only playing when forced in due to injuries. He started the year as the #3 tackle behind Cross and Fant with Lucas on PUP. When Fant got hurt in game 1, he replaced Fant and then started the next 5 games before getting injured himself and put on IR until week 15, then only played ST snaps after that. Doesn't really show any potential except as a 4th tackle on any team.