Never, ever came to a set.Will this ever happen again? And to think Roger did it twice! Were any of the SoSH family there that night and what do you remember?
Still have that copy of SI and I have a VHS tape of the game from a NESN rebroadcast of the telecast during the All Star Break that year. Of course, I no longer have a VCR...
I still have this issue somewhere. Stole it from my brother's collection. He's a Yankee fan, so fuck him. IIRC, Harold Reynolds was # 20.
I went to the Stadium mid June on a Friday night that year and Clemens pitched a complete game 4 hitter to get to 12-0. We were leaving chanting Dwight who?I was in school in NYC. They didn't believe that he was going to be better than Gooden. Oh the told you sos one never gets to tell.
Not until the rule was clarified in 1988, the Year of the Balk. The rule was changed back and the number of balks per year normalized after 1988, but I think pitcher behavior changed and sets became more deliberate and the pause more pronounced.I never noticed the coming set thing before. Pretty sure he balked his way through the game. Was this not enforced back then?
I was devastated when the Whale lost that night - went to OT if I remember in game 7 and then Montreal won it all after that. if the Whale wins that game maybe they win the stanley cup championship and never leave Hartford!I was at UConn at the time and went to the bar to watch Whalers/Habs game 7 but started focusing on Clemens as it was apparent he was doing something special.
He struck out 2,033 batters from 1984 through 1993.Boy he really doesn't come to the set when he's pitching with someone on.
I was at the game when he got 2000 I THINK. Any way to find out which game that was? I was in Boston summer of '93 with my dad and brother and we saw 4 games and they lost all of them. I think 2-3 of them were Yankees (definitely yanks because Bernie threw a ball to me and my bro and it bounced off my brothers hand and some douche bag took it...from two kids).
I was never a hockey fan and was pissed when WTIC broadcast the Whalers instead of the Sox. NESN wasn't an option on our cable at the time so radio was all I had. Glad that NESN ended up re-broadcasting it in a edited version later that the local TV picked up. I video taped it and I still have it.I was devastated when the Whale lost that night - went to OT if I remember in game 7 and then Montreal won it all after that. if the Whale wins that game maybe they win the stanley cup championship and never leave Hartford!
Anyway the Clemens 20K game made the night a lot better. I was flipping back and forth and was watching one of those two games through the lines, can't remember if it was the Whale on sportschannel or Clemens on NESN.
It was an AL thing, and Whitey Herzog about blew a gasket when his Cardinals played (and lost to) the Twins in the World Series in 1987. Some "reporter" asked him in a postgame if he thought the lack of a discernible stop was harder on the batter or the runner. Herzog replied that he didn't have to answer stupid questions.I never noticed the coming set thing before. Pretty sure he balked his way through the game. Was this not enforced back then?
I had never been any kind of a baseball fan before that night, but the news in the next day's Globe that there was a man my age in my town who was rewriting the AL record book got my attention. When the Sox got the lead in extras in Game 6, I was delighted that on my first year as a Red Sox fan, I was going to see them win a World Series, and not once, but three times (because of the ghosts in the OTA TV reception in my Back Bay apartment). I've repressed the rest of it.“People are texting me, saying, ‘Do you remember what you were doing 30 years ago tonight?’’ Clemens said.
“I say, ‘Yeah, I was in full panic mode on Storrow Drive, stuck in traffic.’’
Unlike some pitchers, who arrive hours before their scheduled start, Clemens preferred a different routine. He was one of the first pitchers to keep a notebook on opposing hitters, so he’d already done his advance study long before coming to the park. On days he pitched, Clemens liked to arrive a little later at the clubhouse, grab his clothes, and head back to the trainers’ room.
Only this night, trouble. Traffic was at a standstill on Storrow Drive. Clemens believes there was a concert in the vicinity. The Celts were also hosting Atlanta in a playoff game at the Garden. Cars were inching forward a length or two every 10 minutes. Clemens said he was still a mile, mile and a half away from the ballpark. “I could see the Citgo sign,’’ he said, “but we weren’t moving.’’
Clemens, dressed in jeans, T-shirt and cowboy boots, got out of his car. He popped the trunk to fetch his running shoes. “I was going to jog to the park,’’ he said.
Then, serendipity. A motorcycle cop came by, saw the trunk was open, assumed the car had broken down. Then he spotted the driver.
“He said, ‘Aren’t you…?’’’ Clemens said. “With his help, we got to the ballpark. I rolled into the clubhouse around 6:55 (a little more than half an hour before first pitch). “Fish said he was ready to scratch me from the start.
“I ran down to the bullpen, and I don’t think I threw a strike. I had a temple headache, too. I had about a minute and a half of peace and quiet during the anthem. Until then I was just flying around.’’
Yep, I was there!He struck out 2,033 batters from 1984 through 1993.
Counting backwards through his 1993 starts, I think he got #2,000 on August 11, 1993 at Fenway. Red Sox lost, 8-3.
During the Clemens/Nipper drunken interview with Lobel after they clinched the AL East they were showing a clip of the strikeout pitches for the 20 guys with Nipper commenting with each one with "sit down", "see ya", etc. When they showed either a Owen or Hendu K (or both) he said something along the lines of "hey, he plays for us". I'm most likely butchering the line since it's 30 years ago and I was sitting in a dorm room a few drinks in myself but it was pretty amusing.And that 1986 Seattle Mariners team is my favorite crappy baseball team of all time: Hendu, Danny Tartabull, Spike Owen, Gorman Thomas, Phil Bradley, Jim Pressley, Alvin Davis, Harold Reynolds. In the pre-Internet days, they were that mysterious Pacific Northwest team that I barely knew anything about except that they all swung out of their shoes.
Yeah, Roger's 1985 injury and shutdown had put him into an odd status with the team. Once very highly-touted, he had gone from the next great Red Sox starter to a man in limbo. As he proceeded to lay waste to the AL in 1986, it was as if the bulk of Sox fans finally took notice of his talents: he was voted the 10th Player Award for that season.Even Clemens was under the radar going into that game. He was certainly highly touted when he appeared as a 21 year old rookie in 1984, but experienced the typical rookie adjustments and inconsistencies. He raised some eyebrows when he struck out 15 and 11 in back to back games in August, before being shut down for the month of September after experience shoulder discomfort. After a promising start in 1985, he spent time on and off the DL, striking out only 15 batters in his final 38 innings. Turns out the was dealing with an undiagnosed torn labrum, which required season ending surgery from little known Dr. James Andrews that August. Clemens was ramped up slowly in spring training, and was #4 starter after Hurst, Oil Can Boyd, and Al Nipper. He walked 5 batters in his first start, a win against the White Sox. He had then won his following 2 starts, including one against the Tigers where he had struck out 10 in 6 2/3 innings. So, while the 3-0 start was promising, noone really knew what to expect from Clemens going forward.
It was a 0-0 game into the seventh. Clemens gave up a solo shot to Gorman Thomas in the top of the inning, then Dewey hit a three-run shot in the bottom of the inning accounting for all the scoring in the game. Clemens afterwards credited the close score of the game with him racking up the Ks, acknowledging he'd have been pitching differently had he been up by five runs early.Yeah, Roger's 1985 injury and shutdown had put him into an odd status with the team. Once very highly-touted, he had gone from the next great Red Sox starter to a man in limbo. As he proceeded to lay waste to the AL in 1986, it was as if the bulk of Sox fans finally took notice of his talents: he was voted the 10th Player Award for that season.
Listening on radio to that game, as someone mentioned above one of the most prominent memories was worrying that he was going to get the L since the Sox trailed most of the way.
Whoops, I did remember it was Gorman Thomas who had homered. Clemens won 14 straight that year, but it took him quite a while to get a shutout as he gave up a homer in virtually every start for a while.It was a 0-0 game into the seventh. Clemens gave up a solo shot to Gorman Thomas in the top of the inning, then Dewey hit a three-run shot in the bottom of the inning accounting for all the scoring in the game. Clemens afterwards credited the close score of the game with him racking up the Ks, acknowledging he'd have been pitching differently had he been up by five runs early.