49ers, Aiyuk, and where he will play in 2024 (not NE)
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I assume they mean Douglas, Polk, and Baker.
If the asking price plus contract was too crazy, it’s a reasonable decision, especially if they’re seeing upside. Polk and Baker are supposedly coming along well.
They are going to have to pay Deebo a lot to extend him out on a contract year to make 25 million franchise tag work. They will also have Purdy on a walk year, and Hargrave has all the leverage going into next year.
There is only so far you can stretch the cap and honestly Aiyuk is not their main concern going into 2025. He is gone.
If reports are true, their offer was more than those involved. They were all in on Aiyuk but Aiyuk did not want them. Schefter did a nice spin job.
Everyone is coming along well in the preseason. Maybe I’m misinterpreting the situation, but it sounds more like Aiyuk said “fuck you guys” rather than the Pats suddenly realizing their WR’s were awesome.
Right, I think he told the Pats "no, thanks", and so the Pats moved on.
He is going to have a tough time shopping the Pat's offer to everyone else.
Think they took the hint (and the Pats announced they were out to stick it to him?)
Possibly; but him going to a competitor for less than the Pats offered seems like a hollow victory. Although I guess it gives them more room to extend Cole Strange, Chad Ryland, or Shaun Wade.
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This is the third year in a row where the Niners have gone through this with Deebo, Bosa, now Aiyuk (and Trent Williams). It wouldn’t shock me to see him back. They tend to take these things pretty late. I’d rather sign up for the Aiyuk contract and move Deebo next year.
I like that Wolf was so aggressive, but I’m not surprised that Aiyuk wasn’t excited about the possibility of coming here.
Oh well, I’ll enjoy watching the young receivers.
Oh well, I’ll enjoy watching the young receivers.
The impression I've gotten through the whole process is Aiyuk is desperately trying to get SF to up their offer and isn't all that interested in leaving a SB team for any of the types of teams willing to both pay him and trade assets (CHI, PIT, NWE, etc.) he's just hoping he can crack the SF front office, and if he absolutely can't he'll go to somewhere like PIT or CLE.
I’d love to see how much of that $30 per year was in guaranteed money. If the guaranteed money was in the top 5 in the league, then yeah not much you can do if the guy just doesn’t want to play here. But if the guaranteed money was low and most of that $30 million was in roster bonuses and shit like that, then what are we doing here?
Seriously everyone that is fooling themselves into thinking that this isn’t going to be long rebuild hasn’t been paying attention to how it works in the rest of the league.
I was told that they are a playoff team with an average QB. Is that no longer true?
Big Felger energy here.
Some of us were hopeful but it’s not exactly a surprise that a team that is rebuilding wouldn’t exactly be a destination for stars. They will probably need to show some progress and an upward trajectory before elite players come here voluntarily. In the meantime, Wolf should be doing what he can to give Maye the most talented players he can.
When does Judon’s extension get done now?
Yeah, those folks need to start a thread with the Sox fans who fooled themselves into thinking this year’s team would win more than 70 games.
That is like saying they would be a better car with a good engine. And there are only 10 of them on the entire planet.
The combination of location (none of these guys have family or connections to the area) and team situation doesn't help but I think most players want to get paid top dollar and get treated well first and want to title chase and have the other pieces in place second. Most teams are in the muddled middle in terms of competitiveness and it changes drastically year to year. It also comes down to injuries and other things that are impossible to predict. Most guys don't leave extra money on the table.. Pats are still a fine destination. If Aiyuk is pushing to go to PIT instead of here's it's not really because the Pats suck. He has other reasons that are personal to him.
It was a commentary on the state of the team, which sucks. They’re not a destination, sadly. And, for the record, I don’t consume Felger or any other Boston sports radio media.
I like what Wolf is trying to do. Keep swinging for the fences on these types of players.
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When else has he done this, though? Feels like a nice leak to show the team is serious about spending, but why weren’t they this aggressive earlier in free agency? Were there not other ways to spend $30M do improve the team?
It’s a nice little story, but would be more impressive had he closed the deal. So far, he hasn’t really sold anyone good who wasn’t already here on the Patriot way.
It’s a nice little story, but would be more impressive had he closed the deal. So far, he hasn’t really sold anyone good who wasn’t already here on the Patriot way.
They have a rookie HC, their QB of the future is a rookie, the weather sucks, and the team went 4-13 last year. Money is money and there are some reasons for optimism, but obviously the team is near the bottom of the league in FA appeal. Such is life, good thing it's possible to build a good team without relying solely on top dollar FAs.
It’s just defeatist negativity.
It was the state of the team last year that sucked. QB melting down, GOAT coach overseeing a dysfunctional offense. The feeling that things were over. Now, you at least have reasons to be hopeful. They have a new coach, new GM and some potentially exciting players.
Uhh, a few months ago? The Pats supposedly offered Ridley the most money of anyone on the market and he just preferred whoever the fuck he signed with (Tennessee?).
Or, it was a half serious throwaway comment that didn’t need to be overanalyzed. Maye pops and everything can change once the OL gets settled. I am hopeful that one of the rookie WRs will emerge. Defense should be decent to good but Barmore injury is obviously a big hit.
They did this with Ridley. Wolf ultimately needs some results on the field and that Maye shows promise. If Maye is the guy, it’s all of a sudden a destination again.
I guess, but isn’t the consensus that Maye shouldn’t even play much this year (which is don’t fully get)?
That the Pats had epic amounts of cap space and added zero impact players from the outside (sorry to fans of Jacoby Brissett and Austin Hooper), and that a marquee player has reportedly no interest in joining the Pats is kind of concerning. I guess it’s further evidence that most see this as a pretty awful team that is not just an average QB away from contention.
Hopefully Maye is that guy and we see some development this year, and that Wolf and co know what the heck they are doing .
That the Pats had epic amounts of cap space and added zero impact players from the outside (sorry to fans of Jacoby Brissett and Austin Hooper), and that a marquee player has reportedly no interest in joining the Pats is kind of concerning. I guess it’s further evidence that most see this as a pretty awful team that is not just an average QB away from contention.
Hopefully Maye is that guy and we see some development this year, and that Wolf and co know what the heck they are doing .
Most rebuilds take 3-4 seasons; sometimes less with some draft luck. Aiyuk would help, obviously, but he could be looking at 1 or 2 seasons of playoff DNQ's. Some rebuilds take longer; the vaunted Giants made the playoffs one season in 10 years after Manningham's catch, and that was as a 1-and-done. The hallowed Ravens under the vaunted Harbaugh missed the playoffs 3 years in a row.
Maye looks like a QB that will need a season before he becomes The Guy. Not a big deal; Josh Allen wasn't anything his first season. We'll need a couple of seasons before we write the book on Wolf. But, meanwhile, Mayo needs to keep the team's culture positive, and the best way to do that is to play the QB that gives them the chance to win every Sunday. Right now, that's Jacoby.
I disagree, anyone who pays attention to the rest of the league knows a rebuild is either done in the first 3-4 years of your rookie QB deal or it fails and there is a new rebuild. There is no such thing as a really long rebuild in the NFL (or really any sport now) the whole roster turns over way too quick and 1 position matters more than the other 53 roster spots combined.
If the Patriots hit on Maye they'll know by the 2026 season at the latest, and if they did the rebuild will be very far along, if they didn't.... they'll be re-setting in 2027 likely with a new coach and GM
You just made up a fake scenario to be upset about. Reality is upsetting enough. Deep breaths y'all. Let's just take it as a good thing our team is trying to use their resources to make the team better.
I wasn't really thinking of the Pats with that post.
Nothing is really good with the Pats at the moment. They had the money to overpay but no one wants to take it. I think it is little insane for football players (there is a non zero chance Aiyuk may have cost himself over 50 million by saying no to the Pats) to turn down desperate teams down just because the nature of how a career can just end. Especially since that is why he is forcing his way out of San Francisco. He is trying to thread the needle of being competitive and get that bag. I am not sure he is good enough to play this game (he is still way better than all the Patriots offensive players).
I appreciate that he went for it. Was the right decision. Even if it had a small chance of working out and the Pats were leverage for the other offers...worth a swing.
I do hope we get less of these types of leaks (as this appears to be) though to be honest. I much prefer the Brad Stevens silent but deadly approach. Don't talk about it unless it gets done.
As long as you get the QB, NFL rebuilds are 2-3 years. If you don’t, then you’re dead. But you can restock an NFL talent pool that quickly, and we see it quite often once the QB hits. HOU and DET went from 3 and 4 wins in 2021 to 10 and 12 wins in 2023. On the other hand, CAR still blows because they didn’t get the QB and the rest of their operation is garbage too. But rebuilds in the NFL happen way quicker than any other sport.
My point is, it’s so hard to get and develop that QB. An organization is very lucky to get that guy on the first, second, or even third try.
Totally agree. It’s why if I were the Pats, I’m using a round 4-6 pick on a QB the next two years no matter what just to get bodies through the system, and if Maye isn’t the guy, I’m drafting two more QBs in 2027. Just throw a shitload of darts at the wall.
Anybody who has been questioning the offseason and why we resigned our own B and C players instead of being more aggressive in free agency and bringing in As has their answer. Its pretty clear they were agressive and flashed tons of cash at just about anyone who would take the call and there were no buyers. so they burned the pile of cash on the players who said yes. What else could they do? This was the whole point of Mayo saying Maye is a player magnet type player after the draft. because he just spent 2 months being told no by every free agent. Maye isnt a magnet yet but they hope he can be. Mayo knows first hand a big part of the dynasty was guys wanting to play with Tom. Theyve got to claw some of that back. Its going to take a minute.
You mean having the 2nd worst record, a new head coach with no experience, and a rookie QB didn't lead to top free agents wanting to come here? NO WAY!
Some of you are showing just how spoiled you got during the BB/TB era.
Some of you are showing just how spoiled you got during the BB/TB era.
Interesting wording by Mike Silver here
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I'd assume, since they said the Pats offer was the most money, that it was in guaranteed. Seems a logical leap. They know that right now they have to pay a premium.