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JakeRae said:
I've had mine for a little over a week now. My only complaint is the lack of OIS. I love the new camera sensor, but there are moments where the lack of OIS is really frustrating. Everything else is great. The battery life is much better than it was on my 2 year old Nexus 5, but I'm not sure if that's anything other than the phone being new.
 
I've had it for a few days now, and I have no idea what OIS means or why I should miss it. After digging through several pages, the only google result that's possibly even remotely applicable is some camera-related image stabilization thing; if that's the missing part, who fucking cares.
 

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SumnerH said:
 
I've had it for a few days now, and I have no idea what OIS means or why I should miss it. After digging through several pages, the only google result that's possibly even remotely applicable is some camera-related image stabilization thing; if that's the missing part, who fucking cares.
Optical Image Stabilization
 

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Optical Image Stabilization
 
Yeah that's what google said.  We've had this discussion in the past; to me it's bizarre that how a phone acts as a camera would be even slightly important to your evaluation of the phone (this pen sucks because it isn't a pasta maker!); phones for some dumb reason have cameras built in, and that's nice for snapshots, but if you care about camera performance you'll get a real camera.  But obviously a lot of people feel very differently.
 

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SumnerH said:
 
Yeah that's what google said.  We've had this discussion in the past; to me it's bizarre that how a phone acts as a camera would be even slightly important to your evaluation of the phone (this pen sucks because it isn't a pasta maker!); phones for some dumb reason have cameras built in, and that's nice for snapshots, but if you care about camera performance you'll get a real camera.  But obviously a lot of people feel very differently.
 
And get off your lawn? I mean, this might have been an appropriate analysis in 2002. But people are using their phones as their only camera for the sole purpose of avoiding carrying a second device. Caring about your pictures, especially for social media posters, is pretty much the norm.
 

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As I wrote above, I ordered a Nexus 5x and ordered a Verus case for it.
 
Long story short: they sent a case for the 6P, they're sending me the correct one for the 5x, and they don't want the 6P version back. If anyone has ordered the 6P and wants a spare case, give a yell. I'd rather not throw it in the trash.  
 
**I think this is the revised case - shipping was delayed for 2 weeks**  The crappy reviews were for the first version of the case that didn't align correctly.
 
Here's what it looks like.
 

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Perhaps this is a stupid question, but I'm due for a 2-year upgrade with Verizon.  If I purchase the phone at the subsidized price and sell it on ebay, do I have to remove the SIM card that they ship it with first?
 
In other words, does the SIM they'll send it with have any connection to my account, or is it completely blank?
 

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I got this clip for my phone and PS4 controller, which essentially converts my phone into a 6-inch touch screen game boy that I can use with emulators. I also have a phone powerful enough to run PPSSPP in cardboard mode, which basically means it'll take any PSP game and emulate it with depth perception and head tracking to work with Google Cardboard.
 
The problem is, I can't do either of these things because both devices hold the phone with a clip that hugs the phone right where the volume buttons are. Can somebody PLEASE tell me they know of an app or something, even if it needs root access, that I can use to temporarily disable those god damned buttons?
 
Edit: Wow, nevermind. I did some googling and while no one had a real simple way of disabling the buttons, someone out there had a similar problem and the simple solution here is to just put it in a case. DUH! 
 

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I really feel strongly that calling over Wifi is an important feature for me. I know a few guys fairly high at Verizon and I know that Verizon is fighting it internally because they think it discourages brand loyalty once you're calling over someone else's wifi. Not sure how true that is, but that's the story they're slinging.

Anyways, only reason I don't make the move is the fear of T Mobile having a worse network. Even if my current home is a piece of crap, I know in May I can get a Turbo and I feel pretty comfortable it will be an excellent phone.

Is everyone in MA getting good service on FI?
 

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Didn't see it mentioned, but has anyone tried the LG V10? I'm going to head to Verizon tomorrow to check it out first, bit it seems like a really solid phone. I have a Note 4 now, so I couldn't imagine downgrading the screen size, and I want to get away from Samsung asap. The promotion that gives you a charging cradle, an extra battery and a 200 gb micro sd is icing on the cake for me if the phone performs well.
 

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Does anyone know why animated gifs won't play on my galaxy s6? I don't know if I've tried anywhere other than the sosh app, but I figured I would check here instead of bugging the mods right now.
 

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I got an Android update on my Nexus 7 tablet about a week and a half ago and since then I can't sync my Google calendars. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the calendar app, checked all settings 1000 times, etc. All other devices in the house, including Android devices that also got the update, sync just fine. Any suggestions (besides "get a gun")?
 

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Thanks, I didn't know about the system cache... but it didn't help.
Everything that was entered on both desktop and tablet on or prior to Nov 9th is still there. Since then, every change I've made on either platform doesn't show up on the other.
 

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Anyone else on a galaxy s5 that's gotten really laggy and slow typing since the ATT update a couple weeks ago?
 

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Question about my s6 Active: I've never used anything other than the stock messaging app, but I've had a problem recently where the chronology gets screwed up if I send/receive multiple messages in quick succession.

Basically, I send a message, I get an instant response, send an instant reply, and it will display on the timeline as if I sent all of my messages first, then got all of the replies subsequently. Any ideas?
 

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I've switched over to just Google Messenger. Pretty bare-bones client but it does things pretty well. I find with any client that they get laggy/weird when you have a ton of messages on the phone, so I clean up threads every now and then.
 

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While I am back in the uk it really is a reminder how expensive us cell plans are, even if things from a distance seem to be improving a bit with some competition

I just agreed a new deal today. I provide the unlocked phone (nexus 6p in this case so easy) 20pounds so like 30 bucks a month unlimited calls (including cell phones on other networks) 6gb data unlimited texts and free Spotify premium
One year commitment and they agreed a one month free deal because I don't know really.

I actually use Spotify a lot so that is actually worth something to me too. I think it's like 9.99 a month or something right?

And that is without threatening to leave that's just their offer with some dumb basic offers passed on

And also looking forward to my 6p
 

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Samsung Pay is fantastic. It works everywhere that I've tried it. Cashiers always say "your phone won't work" and then are all surprised when it does. I've used it all over. I only carry a credit card for sit down restaurants.
 

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Samsung Pay is fantastic. It works everywhere that I've tried it. Cashiers always say "your phone won't work" and then are all surprised when it does. I've used it all over. I only carry a credit card for sit down restaurants.
Since they added Chase, I finally used it and you're right about the cashiers. It's actually pretty funny because they think you're either not listening or an idiot... Then it works and they're just confused.
 

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Samsung pay works with traditional mag stripe readers, not just NFC enabled readers
 

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Samsung Pay is fantastic. It works everywhere that I've tried it. Cashiers always say "your phone won't work" and then are all surprised when it does. I've used it all over. I only carry a credit card for sit down restaurants.
When you get to a merchant that actually has EMV enabled POS machines, won't the mag swipe tell them that they should be using the chip for the transaction?
 

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What is THE phone to have nowadays? I've got an S5, but I'm due for a new one and I'm not 100% committed to sticking with Samsung.
 

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That doesn't address my question at all. With the roll out of EMV in the US, when you have a chip enabled card, the liability for card present fraud switches from the issue to the merchant when you use the mag stripe. As a result, when a merchant that actually has chip enabled POS terminals swipes a chip enabled card by its mag stripe the terminal will tell them to rerun it using the chip.

Admittedly, so few merchants have EMV enabled terminals that this happens almost rarely, but if you don't have your card with you then you may not be able to transact.

What do you do at restaurants?
 

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That doesn't address my question at all. With the roll out of EMV in the US, when you have a chip enabled card, the liability for card present fraud switches from the issue to the merchant when you use the mag stripe. As a result, when a merchant that actually has chip enabled POS terminals swipes a chip enabled card by its mag stripe the terminal will tell them to rerun it using the chip.

Admittedly, so few merchants have EMV enabled terminals that this happens almost rarely, but if you don't have your card with you then you may not be able to transact.

What do you do at restaurants?
It works with EMV terminals as the Samsung page I linked to says it does. . I have Amex cards that force me to use chips. They work everywhere with Samsung pay. Mobile payments are more secure than the chip or so I'm lead to believe.

I carry one card for restaurants. I have multiple businesses and multiple cards. Coupled with my love of Amex, I also used to carry visa and Mastercard.

Now I carry one card for restaurant use.
 

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That doesn't address my question at all. With the roll out of EMV in the US, when you have a chip enabled card, the liability for card present fraud switches from the issue to the merchant when you use the mag stripe. As a result, when a merchant that actually has chip enabled POS terminals swipes a chip enabled card by its mag stripe the terminal will tell them to rerun it using the chip.

Admittedly, so few merchants have EMV enabled terminals that this happens almost rarely, but if you don't have your card with you then you may not be able to transact.

What do you do at restaurants?
My guess (and it is just a guess) is that since the phone is only emulating the mag strip, the terminal isn't going to detect an EMV chip and will process the payment like it would any mag strip card. The added security with this app is from it requiring your fingerprint to make tge transaction and that it is not presenting the actual card number and info.
 

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My guess (and it is just a guess) is that since the phone is only emulating the mag strip, the terminal isn't going to detect an EMV chip and will process the payment like it would any mag strip card. The added security with this app is from it requiring your fingerprint to make tge transaction and that it is not presenting the actual card number and info.
So I don't believe there's a 'detection of the EMV chip', I think when the BIN/PAN is sent as part of the transaction the response comes back from the payment processor that this is a Chip enabled card that should be run via EMV. But I'm thinking it could be something with the Tokenization. Since what it's presenting is not the actual card number, but a tokenized one for which there's already a back end association to the issuing banks (by virtue of not all banks participating in Samsung Pay) that these tokenized cards will not send the flag to use EMV and thus rely on the added security of the fingerprint.
 

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So I don't believe there's a 'detection of the EMV chip', I think when the BIN/PAN is sent as part of the transaction the response comes back from the payment processor that this is a Chip enabled card that should be run via EMV. But I'm thinking it could be something with the Tokenization. Since what it's presenting is not the actual card number, but a tokenized one for which there's already a back end association to the issuing banks (by virtue of not all banks participating in Samsung Pay) that these tokenized cards will not send the flag to use EMV and thus rely on the added security of the fingerprint.
All decisioning happens locally at the device vs the payment processor. There should be a flag within the mag-stripe data that says 'Hey Mr. Card Reader, I have a chip so please instruct the consumer to insert me (or tap if the card/phone is capable of passing EMV data via NFC). When you move to Samsung Pay the mag-stripe data could easily just say 'Hey, I'm just a mag-stripe card or someting of that nature.' Then in those instances the liability would still be on the issuing bank.

Sometimes they could remove the flag due to a tokenized card or they may just not care based on added security of phone finger printing. It will all change on issuing bank,, merchant and risk thresholds, but Samsung does have something cool where it can emulate the mag-stripe by passing some audio frequency data to mimic and mag-stripe.

When ApplePay came out, Apple actually pushed for dynamic card data for each transaction, but the industry isn't ready to support it as it will require a new data field for these machines to pass a field that says 'I'm tokenized/dynamic data from the card and not the card itself.'

Payment processing is a crazy, outdated industry ripe for innovation, but when everyone expects to be able to go to any register swipe their card and just have it work.
 

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What is THE phone to have nowadays? I've got an S5, but I'm due for a new one and I'm not 100% committed to sticking with Samsung.
The LG V10is fantastic. Not sure if it is still going on, but LG gave me a free 200 GB micro SD, a second battery and a cradle charger for the spare. Can't beat that deal, and the phone is great.
 

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I got the Nexus 6P, as a big handed chap this is so far very good. It's already making my work iphone 6 feel small and dull.

The new USB charging connection is a pain in the ass but the battery life has meant it's not a big deal. It charged from 5 to 85% while I made dinner and then was still over 50% 24 hours later with reasonable use. My iphone is really one day and dead, and often not even that if I'm out of the office using bloomberg a lot.

It's new and everything but so far the best phone I've had.
 

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anybody with a Nexus get the 6.01 update? Came through last week and ever since then, my exchange email won't sync. Was working fine before the update, now...nada.
 

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anybody with a Nexus get the 6.01 update? Came through last week and ever since then, my exchange email won't sync. Was working fine before the update, now...nada.
I've got it.


My problem is with third party alarm clocks. Apparently the new sleep features in Marshmallow can make scheduled alarms get totally skipped. I'm not sure if this started in 6.0 or 6.0.1. The stock app works, but my third party app (whose best feature is a required math problem to snooze) does not. If you rely on your phone to wake you, be careful.
 

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My problem is with third party alarm clocks. Apparently the new sleep features in Marshmallow can make scheduled alarms get totally skipped. I'm not sure if this started in 6.0 or 6.0.1. The stock app works, but my third party app (whose best feature is a required math problem to snooze) does not. If you rely on your phone to wake you, be careful.
Timely? I haven't had that problem with it, and I never explicitly excluded it from Doze mode.
 

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Anybody looking for a quality unlocked phone, Amazon has the Nexus 6 for $250 ($300 64 gig) today. I have had mine since the day they came out a little over a year ago, and paid almost $700 for it...and it is still an excellent phone.
 

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OK, my low/mid-level phone took a dunk in some water and is showing some signs of wear. This might put me back in the cell-phone market. Based on cost, I'm pretty wed to T-Mobile at this point (data/text heavy with limited call usage) network wise, so something unlocked or with T-Mobile prepaid is preferred. I haven't really looked looked for a few years, so what would you recommend? Cost isn't a major deal on the phone itself, I'm willing to spend for a good device.
 

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OK, my low/mid-level phone took a dunk in some water and is showing some signs of wear. This might put me back in the cell-phone market. Based on cost, I'm pretty wed to T-Mobile at this point (data/text heavy with limited call usage) network wise, so something unlocked or with T-Mobile prepaid is preferred. I haven't really looked looked for a few years, so what would you recommend? Cost isn't a major deal on the phone itself, I'm willing to spend for a good device.
I'd go with the Nexus 6 that PSF is talking about in the post above yours. That is a great deal for an awesome phone. If you'd rather get the latest and greatest the 6p is a hell of a choice as well.
 

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I find the 6 comically large, something to do with the shape of it. And I don't feel that way about the big iPhones, the Galaxy Note, or the 6p. So try one first, even if it's a great price.

I've had great luck with a Sony Z2, but if you go the Sony route you'll be buying a device full price, and make sure you get the model with the right bands for T-Mobile. They have different sizes available as well, if you wanted a smaller phone there is the compact line which Blacken speaks highly of (he had a Z5c the last I heard).