6/12 Crawford v Ray

ColdSoxPack

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I think he’s been fine overall. I’m predisposed to dislike him because of his F&M character, but when I try to listen neutrally he’s ok. I think that Youk is the best of the non-Eck bunch by a decent amount this year.
Same here. Does Mazz talk about his Red Sox work on the radio show?
 

BaseballJones

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The ghost of Romo puts em down 1-2-3.
That dude always seems to dominate Boston. Don't know if it's actually true, but it always feels that way to me. Seems like he could be 97 years old and get Sox' hitters out with that stupid slider.
 

DennyDoyle'sBoil

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I think RFsnyder has been mostly a corner OF type while JBJ has played most of his career in CF.
Absolutely. If they start together that’s what you would think. But moving a guy after playing one position for 7 innings just struck me as a bit unconventional.
 

BaseballJones

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That dude always seems to dominate Boston. Don't know if it's actually true, but it always feels that way to me. Seems like he could be 97 years old and get Sox' hitters out with that stupid slider.
And I'm not wrong. Just looked at his career numbers vs. Boston. Not including today...

21.1 ip, 12 h, 5 r, 4 er, 4 bb, 13 k, 1.69 era, 0.75 whip

Ugh.
 

Moviegoer

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I can't believe they won this game. This has to be the greatest west coast road trip in human history.
 

BaseballJones

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Awesome win, especially given yesterday's result. Crawford was excellent, and the bullpen was dominant.

Is Tanner the new closer?
 

Rovin Romine

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Now I have to ask: how did Christian Arroyo become The Pedigree?
Via a somewhat classic fashion:

I am practically begging you to stop citing career numbers to predict future performance.

As I said earlier, Arroyo has the upside of a second-division starting 2B/SS. Age (he’s not yet 27) and pedigree (former first-round pick) are on his side. When he was claimed by the Sox in 2020, he had put up a 68 wRC+ in 228 PAs. He has since put up a 92 wRC+ — last year was 106, and his underlying stats this year are even more promising. His hard-hit rates have improved and he's no longer seen as a platoon guy -- he's got a .375 expected wOBA against RHP this year. He doesn't walk much, but his contact rate this year is comfortably above average, even for middle-infielders. He's arguably also proven he can play a credible shortstop, which was not true when we claimed him, and he's built a rep as a good clubhouse guy.

I don't think he's a budding star, but there are plenty of guys who make solid careers from where he's at right now, and that's a lot better than where he was at two years ago.
I am practically begging you to stop citing the "pedigree" of a 26-year-old in his 4th organization. No one can honestly think where a player was drafted nine years ago carries even comparable weight to his career stats.

As you say, there are plenty of guys who make solid careers from where he's at. There are plenty more former prospects who bounce around in utility roles. So why would any GM go out of their way to acquire Christian Arroyo to find out which group he falls into. He's shown some in some short stretches that he might be a stop-gap starting second baseman on a second division team, but no team is going to bank on that. Maybe he gets packaged with a couple of prospects to a rebuilding team in immediate need of a second baseman, but that doesn't bring any significant trade value.
 

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8-2, should've been 9-1, with four shutouts is a pretty good west coast trip. Or any kind of road trip.
 

Gash Prex

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I’m not sure I’ve ever heard more people upset at an 8-2 road-trip than this one