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Haven't been this mad at hockey since SCF G5, which is saying a lot.
honestly we're locked in for next year's tickets because they just just kept the $ and applied it a year later (which you well know) but I might be done after that. I'm not sure I can keep throwing money at this league if this is going to be what it is and I see no reason to suspect anything will change.
 

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I was just thinking that if I have the chance to take my son to game 7, I’m not sure I could do it. A loss could scar him for life.
I was at ALCS Game 7 in ‘03 as a 15 YO. I wouldn’t say it scarred me....but only because they obviously handed the Yankees their worst and most embarrassing defeat on the way to winning the World Series the next year.
 

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I could deal with it if they were just not calling shit. Fine that’s the standard. But it’s the bullshit cross check are fine and dandy till they aren’t. High sticks only get called if you act like you’ve been shot no matter how little they touch.

the inconsistency is maddening and it’s consistent as to who it favors.
 

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I think there are broader issues than reffing and penalties have been an issue all year but NBCSN just ran Cassidy’s presser then followed up with all the Bruins penalties and Sharp (swoon) and Carter saying, “Yep they were penalties”. The entire point of his rant was the calls they aren’t being called on the Isles but are on the Bruins.
 

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The league is fucking crooked. Yes I'm jaded but the screw jobs are just too frequent and and too consistent to come to any other conclusion. I'm rip shit for Bergeron who should have had more hardware and will be screwed because he wore the black and gold.
 

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I think there are broader issues than reffing and penalties have been an issue all year but NBCSN just ran Cassidy’s presser then followed up with all the Bruins penalties and Sharp (swoon) and Carter saying, “Yep they were penalties”. The entire point of his rant was the calls they aren’t being called on the Isles but are on the Bruins.
I didn't see this clip, but during the 2nd intermission Sharp specifically said 2 of the 3 penalties shouldn't have been called
 

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Folks are upset that there were some non-calls that should have gone against the Islanders…44 -19 wasn’t enough of a shots advantage? 5 goals on 19 shots - win probability = 0
 

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The league is fucking crooked. Yes I'm jaded but the screw jobs are just too frequent and and too consistent to come to any other conclusion. I'm rip shit for Bergeron who should have had more hardware and will be screwed because he wore the black and gold.
What’s strange though is that the Bruins are a farrrrr bigger TV draw than the Islanders. I know, “New York bias” and all that, but if the league was actively trying to fix things, they’d favor the Bs. I think it’s just that NHL officiating is incompetent.
 

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Folks are upset that there were some non-calls that should have gone against the Islanders…44 -19 wasn’t enough of a shots advantage? 5 goals on 19 shots - win probability = 0
There is always someone who will give us the "but guys they should have played better and made the refs irrelevant" you can set your watch to it. The Islanders are are a good team. You can't give playoff caliber teams that big of an advantage and expect teams to play through it.
 

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I didn't see this clip, but during the 2nd intermission Sharp specifically said 2 of the 3 penalties shouldn't have been called
I was admittedly more focused on the idea of them contrasting Bruce’s thoughts with Bruins penalties so may have missed a couple specifics. Just an odd thing to produce.
 

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Folks are upset that there were some non-calls that should have gone against the Islanders…44 -19 wasn’t enough of a shots advantage? 5 goals on 19 shots - win probability = 0
Did you actually watch the game?

Rask did not play great. Fine.

But the refs put their thumb on the scale at exactly the points the Islanders needed it, completely violating any sense of standards for how the game would be called. It was a fraud.
 

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What’s strange though is that the Bruins are a farrrrr bigger TV draw than the Islanders. I know, “New York bias” and all that, but if the league was actively trying to fix things, they’d favor the Bs. I think it’s just that NHL officiating is incompetent.
Hanlon’s Razor. Don’t attribute malice to that which can be explained by incompetence. Cost the Pats a third rounder.
 

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What’s strange though is that the Bruins are a farrrrr bigger TV draw than the Islanders. I know, “New York bias” and all that, but if the league was actively trying to fix things, they’d favor the Bs. I think it’s just that NHL officiating is incompetent.
Yeah. I live in NY and had to think long and hard about any Islanders fans I know so we could trash talk. The only one I could come up with was a friend’s spouse. I had a half dozen classmates from LI and they are all some combo of Habs and Rangers fans.
 

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What’s strange though is that the Bruins are a farrrrr bigger TV draw than the Islanders. I know, “New York bias” and all that, but if the league was actively trying to fix things, they’d favor the Bs. I think it’s just that NHL officiating is incompetent.
Wonder what the odds are of the Bs penalty ratio year after year in comparison to their possession time if you'd expect the incompetence to even out over time
 

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Folks are upset that there were some non-calls that should have gone against the Islanders…44 -19 wasn’t enough of a shots advantage? 5 goals on 19 shots - win probability = 0
It’s easier to get high threat shots when you get gifted power plays while getting dominated 5 on 5, and events can have multiple contributing causes.

We can dislike more than one thing at a time. I dislike so many different things.
 

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Wonder what the odds are of the Bs penalty ratio year after year in comparison to their possession time if you'd expect the incompetence to even out over time
They don’t. We looked at it a few years ago I think, and it was ridiculous. Like, “These guys are either criminals, fucked someone’s mom, or they’re getting screwed,” ridiculous. I can’t imagine that it’s gotten any better.
 

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The crazy thing is if the Bruins did go down on the high sticks like the Islanders do, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Bruins player getting an embellishment call.
 

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What’s strange though is that the Bruins are a farrrrr bigger TV draw than the Islanders. I know, “New York bias” and all that, but if the league was actively trying to fix things, they’d favor the Bs. I think it’s just that NHL officiating is incompetent.
Nah, America loves Leo Komarov

I was admittedly more focused on the idea of them contrasting Bruce’s thoughts with Bruins penalties so may have missed a couple specifics. Just an odd thing to produce.
No, you’re right. The highlight reel was completely detached from the commentary, which was actually supportive of the missed / inconsistent calls. Fucking maddening.
 

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They don’t. We looked at it a few years ago I think, and it was ridiculous. Like, “These guys are either criminals, fucked someone’s mom, or they’re getting screwed,” ridiculous. I can’t imagine that it’s gotten any better.
Yeah, I vaguely remember someone running the numbers at one point in comparison to every other team in the league. Who knows what the exact reason is, but the Bs definitely aren't treated the same as every other team in the league.
 

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What’s strange though is that the Bruins are a farrrrr bigger TV draw than the Islanders. I know, “New York bias” and all that, but if the league was actively trying to fix things, they’d favor the Bs. I think it’s just that NHL officiating is incompetent.
It has nothing to do with market size, or the Bruins opponent. The guys that run the league are in that GTA bubble, and that’s all they hear on talk radio and around town up there is how dirty the Bruins are. Also, the Marchand licking incident was a massive story up there. They really need to find a way as an organization to get that rap off of them.
 

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After g5 2019, nothing fazes me anymore.

That being said, two delay of game penalties going fucking uncalled, the second a few minutes before Bergeron's, nearly put me over the edge tonight.
 

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Did you actually watch the game?

Rask did not play great. Fine.

But the refs put their thumb on the scale at exactly the points the Islanders needed it, completely violating any sense of standards for how the game would be called. It was a fraud.
Yes. I watched this game and a thousand other just like it. Somebody’s always on the wrong side of bad officiating in the NHL. It didn’t stand in the way of Bruins getting 44 shots in net and only giving up 19. Islanders got playoff caliber goaltending and the Bruins did not. That was the difference tonight, despite the miserable officiating.
 

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After g5 2019, nothing fazes me anymore.

That being said, two delay of game penalties going fucking uncalled, the second a few minutes before Bergeron's, nearly put me over the edge tonight.
Were there two? I saw the one behind the net that went uncalled, when was the other one?
 

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Yeah. I live in NY and had to think long and hard about any Islanders fans I know so we could trash talk. The only one I could come up with was a friend’s spouse. I had a half dozen classmates from LI and they are all some combo of Habs and Rangers fans.
I’m in Fairfield County and I know one, admittedly crazy diehard, Islanders fan... and about 20 kajillion Rangers fans. The Islanders fan base is among the smallest in the league. A Lightning-Islanders semis would be ratings poison. And with a Canadian team guaranteed to be in the other semis, it’s going to be lean times for the league’s U.S. media partners, regardless.

Maybe there’s some grand conspiracy against the Bs, who knows, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to be rearing its head in this series. Which is not to say the officiating is acceptable.
 

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I guess I always go to why then. What reason do they have to target an Original 6 franchise in a major American market?
1. No one would confuse NHL leadership with titans of industry.
2. The Cup was supposed to come home to Canada in 2011.
3. The Bruins have been a major obstacle in the way of the Precious (or the Two Preciouses, in this case)
4. Marchand licked a guy.

I don’t know either, it makes no sense, but they have been reamed in this series, against STL, and multiple series against Tampa (which people ignore because they happened to also be outmatched). Hell even last series it was revolving door in and out of the box after every scuffle when Washington started shit.
 

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Were there two? I saw the one behind the net that went uncalled, when was the other one?
Late second period, B's were chipping it in (Bergeron I believe), Pelech swatted it out of mid air from just inside his own blue line over the glass; faceoff was in the Isles' zone, no penalty called. My assumption is that they called a deflection but it looked like it went straight out and the B's were lobbying hard for it. As expected, NBC broadcast doesn't give it a second thought / replay
 

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Late second period, B's were chipping it in (Bergeron I believe), Pelech swatted it out of mid air from just inside his own blue line over the glass; faceoff was in the Isles' zone, no penalty called. My assumption is that they called a deflection but it looked like it went straight out and the B's were lobbying hard for it. As expected, NBC broadcast doesn't give it a second thought / replay
Oh, thanks, I do remember that one now. It was over quickly, no replay, no commentary - didn’t fit the relentless Isles ballwashing theme...
 

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Yes. I watched this game and a thousand other just like it. Somebody’s always on the wrong side of bad officiating in the NHL. It didn’t stand in the way of Bruins getting 44 shots in net and only giving up 19. Islanders got playoff caliber goaltending and the Bruins did not. That was the difference tonight, despite the miserable officiating.
I swear to god I'm going to lose it......
 

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I’m in Fairfield County and I know one, admittedly crazy diehard, Islanders fan... and about 20 kajillion Rangers fans. The Islanders fan base is among the smallest in the league. A Lightning-Islanders semis would be ratings poison. And with a Canadian team guaranteed to be in the other semis, it’s going to be lean times for the league’s U.S. media partners, regardless.

Maybe there’s some grand conspiracy against the Bs, who knows, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to be rearing its head in this series. Which is not to say the officiating is acceptable.
Historic Nassau Coliseum, in its final season. The ghosts have awakened as the Islanders prepare for puck drop in the Stanley Cup Final - next on NBC.
 

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I’m in Fairfield County and I know one, admittedly crazy diehard, Islanders fan... and about 20 kajillion Rangers fans. The Islanders fan base is among the smallest in the league. A Lightning-Islanders semis would be ratings poison. And with a Canadian team guaranteed to be in the other semis, it’s going to be lean times for the league’s U.S. media partners, regardless.

Maybe there’s some grand conspiracy against the Bs, who knows, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense to be rearing its head in this series. Which is not to say the officiating is acceptable.
NBC is playing out the string on their contract.
Seriously though, I don’t think it’s a grand conspiracy. I think its that the Bruins have a reputation for being “dirty” at the league office, and it affects the officials. I swear the league runs entirely on what they hear on The Fan 590 driving into work.
 

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Historic Nassau Coliseum, in its final season. The ghosts have awakened as the Islanders prepare for puck drop in the Stanley Cup Final - next on NBC.
That’s no TV draw whatsoever, though. Like I can’t adequately express how irrelevant the Islanders are to TV ratings.
 

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Yes. I watched this game and a thousand other just like it. Somebody’s always on the wrong side of bad officiating in the NHL. It didn’t stand in the way of Bruins getting 44 shots in net and only giving up 19. Islanders got playoff caliber goaltending and the Bruins did not. That was the difference tonight, despite the miserable officiating.
Islanders literally had NO shots, no ToP, no O Zone time, nothing. Stick tap by Kuraly call completely interrupts the relentless cycling and chances at the other end. Isles trip Bruins with possession, attempt leg checks, mug Bergeron late and away from the play, chuck the puck over the glass - nothing rose to the level of a stick tap that didn’t hinder the shot in the slightest. Without three straight power plays against depleted D corps, Islanders shots would have been like 9. For the game. Two standards. Lather, rinse, repeat...