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I have said it before but is there a better fit then Simmons on the Celtics? (Smart would have to go).

And Of course it would never happen for soo many reasons. But to my novice eyes I cant imagine a better group then Tatum, Brown, 16th Pick (ideally Nesmith as a shooter) and Rwill.
I think RWill would be the one to go and Smart would stay. But Simmons would work with the Jays. The Jays work in any system.
 

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I think RWill would be the one to go and Smart would stay. But Simmons would work with the Jays. The Jays work in any system.
Yup, this is the true value of having multiple two way wings. There isn't an all star in the league that wouldn't work alongside brown and tatum. I'm a bit skeptical that having your two best players both be wings is the best path to a title, but from a roster flexibility standpoint it can't be beat.
 

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you maybe Right @Cesar Crespo. I imagine RWill as the Screener and doing his patented Lobs. JT would do what JT does. Brown would drive, Hit 3s and the little pull up. Nesmith camped in a corner. Simmons dishing and moving around all over.

I think you need Rwill to match up with bigger guys. Smart and Simmons are almost redundant, albeit for different reasons. Both are eminently switchable. But I think Simmons is a better Passer and Rebounder. While Smart the "better" shooter.

Maybe not. But yea its currently nice to basically be able slot ANYONE in with the Jays and have it work (except for the gimpy north of 30 but south of 6'2 point guard :eyeroll:
 

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you maybe Right @Cesar Crespo. I imagine RWill as the Screener and doing his patented Lobs. JT would do what JT does. Brown would drive, Hit 3s and the little pull up. Nesmith camped in a corner. Simmons dishing and moving around all over.

I think you need Rwill to match up with bigger guys. Smart and Simmons are almost redundant, albeit for different reasons. Both are eminently switchable. But I think Simmons is a better Passer and Rebounder. While Smart the "better" shooter.

Maybe not. But yea its currently nice to basically be able slot ANYONE in with the Jays and have it work (except for the gimpy north of 30 but south of 6'2 point guard :eyeroll:
Even he worked when he was healthy. Irving worked Hayward worked. Their ego's didn't.
 

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Simmons is such a weird case. For me, it comes down to the following question:

What does Ben Simmons do better today in 2021 than he did in his first season in 2017? I don't think there's a single aspect of his game that is better today than it was 4 years ago. Maybe defense? And he turns 25 in a month. We're getting close to the "you are what you are" territory with him. I know we're spoiled by seeing the atypical growth of Jaylen and Jayson but, man, he is quite the enigma.
He defends better. Like top 3 defensive player in the league better.

I get being down on Simmons, but right now he could be a better passing Draymond (and better at defending 1s, though not as good against 5s)for a team, that has good value. If you can improve his FT shooting he can be better passing Draymond who can also drive to the rim.
 

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He defends better. Like top 3 defensive player in the league better.

I get being down on Simmons, but right now he could be a better passing Draymond (and better at defending 1s, though not as good against 5s)for a team, that has good value. If you can improve his FT shooting he can be better passing Draymond who can also drive to the rim.
So, there isn't a single part of his offensive game that anyone can point to as being improved after 4 years in the league. That is...not good. His defense is better but it's really hard to win a title when a defense-minded player is your 2nd best player. Philly and Utah just learned the hard way.

Simmons clearly has value but it's going to take the right situation and probably coaching to get it out of him. Right now, he seems like one of those "better in the regular season than playoffs" guys.
 

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I get being down on Simmons, but right now he could be a better passing Draymond (and better at defending 1s, though not as good against 5s)for a team, that has good value. If you can improve his FT shooting he can be better passing Draymond who can also drive to the rim.
All true, but without Green's attitude. And I don't mean that as a compliment. I think any team trading for him has to hope that a change of scenery helps spur actual offensive growth for the first time in his career, otherwise it's a bad move. Green is a pretty lousy outside shooter, but in his all-NBA days he was Marcus Smart bad, which you can deal with. Simmons can't even dream about that sort of range.
 

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All true, but without Green's attitude. And I don't mean that as a compliment. I think any team trading for him has to hope that a change of scenery helps spur actual offensive growth for the first time in his career, otherwise it's a bad move. Green is a pretty lousy outside shooter, but in his all-NBA days he was Marcus Smart bad, which you can deal with. Simmons can't even dream about that sort of range.
Draymond taking 4 3PA at like 33% or lower didn't help them. Simmons is at least as good an offensive player, likely better. I don't get the attitude thing. Simmons' attitude to me on D is better, he commits less dumb fouls, less techs, and he goes out and clamps anyone and wants the hardest assignment. He's passive on offense, but so is Draymond.

So, there isn't a single part of his offensive game that anyone can point to as being improved after 4 years in the league. That is...not good. His defense is better but it's really hard to win a title when a defense-minded player is your 2nd best player. Philly and Utah just learned the hard way.

Simmons clearly has value but it's going to take the right situation and probably coaching to get it out of him. Right now, he seems like one of those "better in the regular season than playoffs" guys.
I think he's arguably better passer, and he draws fouls at a higher rate each year (which even at 60% has value), he took as step forward in 2018-19 in terms of scoring efficiency and has maintained it.
I agree it's tough to have your 2nd max player not be a scorer, but at the same time, I think you can find scoring guards if you have an elite defender and passer as a big.
Simmons is a really good NBA player, who can't play with Embiid well. He needs to be the man in he mid-post surrounded by shooters, just like Embiid does.
He needs to work on his FTs, and preferably add a mid-range pull-up, but even as is, he's a really valuable player. I'd much rather have him than CJ McCollum, who you can get 90% of from guys like Clarkson and Norm Powell. There are always small SGs who can't defend buy can score kicking around.
 

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you maybe Right @Cesar Crespo. I imagine RWill as the Screener and doing his patented Lobs. JT would do what JT does. Brown would drive, Hit 3s and the little pull up. Nesmith camped in a corner. Simmons dishing and moving around all over.

I think you need Rwill to match up with bigger guys. Smart and Simmons are almost redundant, albeit for different reasons. Both are eminently switchable. But I think Simmons is a better Passer and Rebounder. While Smart the "better" shooter.

Maybe not. But yea its currently nice to basically be able slot ANYONE in with the Jays and have it work (except for the gimpy north of 30 but south of 6'2 point guard :eyeroll:
I’m not terribly opposed to the idea of adding Simmons to Tatum/Brown. But they had better find other ways to revamp the offense (acquire other shooters and/or major development from Langford/Nesmith/Pritchard). Because just think of how many shots Smart ends up taking in our offense due to the ball winding up in his hands with a few seconds remaining on the clock.
 

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Well first off... I cant in a million years see Simmons ever ending up on the Celts.

But to your point.....is that a Feature or a Bug.

By that I mean that Smart often ends up taking dumb shots and years off our lives because he thinks he is a good shooter and its a good idea. He also often keeps the ball with the understanding that he "can always take a good shot" if need be. (Spoiler they aint)

Simmons on the other hand is alot like Harry Callahan. He knows his limitations. I dont think he would dribble the ball until 3 seconds on the shot clock while out around the 3 pt line. Maybe.....But I think if he did find him self in a 7-6-5 second situation he is driving and looking to dish.

If the ball is ending up in Simmons hands out by the 3 pt line with 3 seconds on the clock, thats more a problem with his teammates then him. While if Smart ends up in that situation its almost entirely Smart Driven.

Simmons takes less dumb shots because he takes very few shots. And right or wrong in volume they are shots he knows he has a decent chance of making.

Smart.....doesnt feel that way....or shouldnt.
 

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Draymond taking 4 3PA at like 33% or lower didn't help them. Simmons is at least as good an offensive player, likely better. I don't get the attitude thing. Simmons' attitude to me on D is better, he commits less dumb fouls, less techs, and he goes out and clamps anyone and wants the hardest assignment. He's passive on offense, but so is Draymond.



I think he's arguably better passer, and he draws fouls at a higher rate each year (which even at 60% has value), he took as step forward in 2018-19 in terms of scoring efficiency and has maintained it.
I agree it's tough to have your 2nd max player not be a scorer, but at the same time, I think you can find scoring guards if you have an elite defender and passer as a big.
Simmons is a really good NBA player, who can't play with Embiid well. He needs to be the man in he mid-post surrounded by shooters, just like Embiid does.
He needs to work on his FTs, and preferably add a mid-range pull-up, but even as is, he's a really valuable player. I'd much rather have him than CJ McCollum, who you can get 90% of from guys like Clarkson and Norm Powell. There are always small SGs who can't defend buy can score kicking around.
Having a player on your team who won't let you get pushed around has value. Simmons is absolutely not that guy, while Green is (or was) for GS. There's being passive on offense, then there is whatever the hell Simmons just showed us in this series. Has Green ever gone 4 straight playoff games without taking a shot in the 4th quarter? Simmons was afraid to even dribble in the half court last night because he might have been fouled. I've never seen Green do that.

On the bold, it does have some value even for lousy FT shooters, but it's less effective for the guy shooting 60% than the guy shooting 80%. Additionally, his higher FT rate is fools gold - he's shooting more free throws because he's taken fewer outside shots every year (which is a shot he needs to learn if he's ever going to show real improvement), and possibly because teams are more willing to foul him now. His FTR these playoffs was a sparkling .768, and nobody in Philly is happy about that.
 

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Yes I did. I just don't see Simmons getting better, so if I were Blazers I wouldn't do it.
It’s not a question of him getting better, though. It’s a question of him doing the same things on a different team. Philly wants him to be a ball-handling PG in the half-court set and he’s clearly just not equipped to do that. In Portland, Simmons can be an off-ball guard/center weird hybrid who doesn’t need to handle the ball in the half-court and just provides defense. To be sure, Portland will face the same issues where they can’t play him in clutch situations, but they don’t need him to as much because they have Lillard. He wouldn’t be a perfect offensive hit on Portland, obviously, but Portland might be more willing to overlook that and focus on Simmons’s great defense, which is something Portland desperately needs.

Now, to be fair, it’s possible that Philly could keep Simmons and attempt something similar, where Simmons plays off ball and Maxey handles the primary PG duties. But even if Maxey continues to improve, he’s no Lillard, so a Maxey/Simmons pair is inevitably going to be more limited offensively than a Lillard/Simmons pair.
 

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I think he's arguably better passer, and he draws fouls at a higher rate each year (which even at 60% has value), he took as step forward in 2018-19 in terms of scoring efficiency and has maintained it.
I agree it's tough to have your 2nd max player not be a scorer, but at the same time, I think you can find scoring guards if you have an elite defender and passer as a big.
Simmons is a really good NBA player, who can't play with Embiid well. He needs to be the man in he mid-post surrounded by shooters, just like Embiid does.
He needs to work on his FTs, and preferably add a mid-range pull-up, but even as is, he's a really valuable player. I'd much rather have him than CJ McCollum, who you can get 90% of from guys like Clarkson and Norm Powell. There are always small SGs who can't defend buy can score kicking around.
Agree that I'd rather have Simmons. Trading him for a soon-to-be 30 year-old undersized SG would not be a great result from a value perspective even if the team fit is better. It is going to be fascinating to see how they play this. It'll turn into a mini-distraction if he's not dealt this summer but you can't give him away either.
 

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Agree that I'd rather have Simmons. Trading him for a soon-to-be 30 year-old undersized SG would not be a great result from a value perspective even if the team fit is better. It is going to be fascinating to see how they play this. It'll turn into a mini-distraction if he's not dealt this summer but you can't give him away either.
I think Simmons has more value, so PHI would likely get more, probably at least a 1st
 

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It’s not a question of him getting better, though. It’s a question of him doing the same things on a different team. Philly wants him to be a ball-handling PG in the half-court set and he’s clearly just not equipped to do that. In Portland, Simmons can be an off-ball guard/center weird hybrid who doesn’t need to handle the ball in the half-court and just provides defense. To be sure, Portland will face the same issues where they can’t play him in clutch situations, but they don’t need him to as much because they have Lillard. He wouldn’t be a perfect offensive hit on Portland, obviously, but Portland might be more willing to overlook that and focus on Simmons’s great defense, which is something Portland desperately needs.

Now, to be fair, it’s possible that Philly could keep Simmons and attempt something similar, where Simmons plays off ball and Maxey handles the primary PG duties. But even if Maxey continues to improve, he’s no Lillard, so a Maxey/Simmons pair is inevitably going to be more limited offensively than a Lillard/Simmons pair.
The problem with Simmons on PHI is always going to be.... He's a non-stretch big who you would like to run offense through and use in PnR, your star is an MVP candidate non-stretch big that you want with the ball a lot. He can't play his best role because Embiid is better and needs to be in the same places.
 

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31681488/philadelphia-76ers-plan-address-ben-simmons-shooting-woes-doc-rivers-says

But not 24 hours after his team's season was over, 76ers coach Doc Rivers said Monday that he believes this summer will be different for Simmons. Why? Because, according to Rivers, not only is Simmons willing to do the work, but the Sixers have a plan to address his shooting woes that will involve doing "the right work," and doing it "the right way."

"I believe, without going into detail with what we're doing, I believe we know what the right work is, and the right type of work, and the right way to do it," Rivers said when asked why this offseason will be different as far as Simmons and his shooting goes.
Who knows if this is the real plan or what is going on in Simmons' head, but if Simmons buys in to whatever the organization wants him to do and is willing to put in the time this off-season, I think that is probably a better course of action than selling low right now.
 

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Yes of course you would but would you if you were the Blazers???? Of course not!
Whoops. Leave it to me to say exactly the opposite of what I meant. I meant: Portland would be insane **not** to do that deal, if it were presented to them. A core of Lillard-Powell-Covington-Simmons is a thousand times more intriguing than what they have now, imo, with the potential for a defense that doesn’t suck for the first time in ages. And a new coach to get them moving and passing more on O? Absolutely love that deal for Portland.

But I kinda doubt Morey does it, since he already has guys who provide what CJ does in Curry, Hill, and Maxey; and would risking destroying his team’s defense for a superfluous fourth combo guard.
 
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Who knows if this is the real plan or what is going on in Simmons' head, but if Simmons buys in to whatever the organization wants him to do and is willing to put in the time this off-season, I think that is probably a better course of action than selling low right now.
The fact that it apparently took 4 seasons makes me doubtful he's willing to do it. Or that it works.
 

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People speculating whether a team would or would not do a trade should probably wait a bit given recency bias. My sense in watching the NBA is that Ben Simmons, whose value is undeniably lower today than it was yesterday or a few months ago, is exactly the type of player many GMs/coaches would take a discount flier on with the thought that *they* can fix him or figure out how to minimize his flaws.

There is a reason Portland/McCollum is being widely discussed as a potential trade for Philadelphia/Simmons and that is because they too flamed out of the playoffs with a roster that appears to have topped out. On its surface, a McCollum for Simmons swap makes a lot of sense for both sides.
 

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What are the chances Philly tries one more time to fix Simmons? Send him to shooting camp, force him to shoot in scrimmages and preseason, maybe even summer league in Philly, NY or LA. Ben has to know now that he needs to fix his shooting form. He just let everyone down in front of a national audience. I don’t think Ben is lazy.

Of course, he might also need a shrink to talk him down off a ledge.
 

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Hopefully they fix hit shot like they fixed Markelle's.
Good one. Boy, we are seeing a few stars with serious shooting problems lately — Giannis, Fultz, Green, Simmons. A ton of guys seem to miss every other free throw. I had a high school coach tell me once that his players can’t hit free throws because they would rather practice three-pointers.
 

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Hopefully they fix hit shot like they fixed Markelle's.
The problem with their proposed plan (if it's not just posturing, which it might be) is that most of his problems are mental. Improved shooting/confidence can help with the mental side of things but it's not like locking himself in an empty gym and draining a bunch of 15 footers can replicate the pressure of drilling a shot in an NBA playoff game.

This is a guy who is scared to shoot outside of 10 feet in relatively meaningless regular season games. You can't fix that in an offseason.
 

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For the playoffs Philly was +12.9/100 with Simmons on the court, and -7.7 with him off the court. Maybe he wasn't the problem.
His defense gave Trae a lot of problems. Imagine a 6-10 guy covering Trae. And yet the little prick stuck a dagger in the 76ers when it mattered.
 

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People speculating whether a team would or would not do a trade should probably wait a bit given recency bias. My sense in watching the NBA is that Ben Simmons, whose value is undeniably lower today than it was yesterday or a few months ago, is exactly the type of player many GMs/coaches would take a discount flier on with the thought that *they* can fix him or figure out how to minimize his flaws.

There is a reason Portland/McCollum is being widely discussed as a potential trade for Philadelphia/Simmons and that is because they too flamed out of the playoffs with a roster that appears to have topped out. On its surface, a McCollum for Simmons swap makes a lot of sense for both sides.
I don't see how it makes any sense for Philly. You think selling dirt-low on Simmons so they can give the Curry-Maxey-Hill minutes to McCollum is an upgrade for them? On a team that likes to run the offense through Embiid and Harris, I'm not even sure I'd rather have CJ than Seth straight up. And losing Simmons likely tanks their #2 ranked defense.
 
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I don't see how it makes any sense for Philly. You think selling dirt-low on Simmons so they can give the Curry-Maxey-Hill minutes to McCollum is an upgrade for them? On a team that likes to run the offense through Embiid and Harris, I'm not even sure I'd rather have CJ than Seth straight up. And losing Simmons likely tanks their #2 ranked defense.
I don't see either side as upgrading as much as resetting to a better fit. There are permutations of a trade which can mitigate the potential hit to the 76ers defense - for example, if the Blazers add Derick Jones Jr. to a Philly trade does that change your calculus?

I have no clue if the 76ers can or will move on from Simmons but the most obvious trades aren't upgrade ones imo - its where the teams exchange expensive problems. Simmons fits in Portland on paper and McCollum, even with his flaws, grades out better than Curry/Maxey/washed George Hill.

This isn't a perfect solution and a trade of this sort should be assumed to be unlikely but it kind of makes sense imo.
 

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I don't see how it makes any sense for Philly. You think selling dirt-low on Simmons so they can give the Curry-Maxey-Hill minutes to McCollum is an upgrade for them? On a team that likes to run the offense through Embiid and Harris, I'm not even sure I'd rather have CJ than Seth straight up. And losing Simmons likely tanks their #2 ranked defense.
Seth Curry is a very nice player but this is some serious CJ disrespect. He’s a top 30ish player in the league. Seth is a nice role player. It’s a huge difference.
 
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Seth Curry is Avery nice player but this is some serious CJ disrespect. He’s a top 30ish player in the league. Seth is a nice role player. It’s a huge difference.
This.

McCollum is a flawed player but by most metrics (not cited so as not to set off people who don't use something like prices - a single value metric that many consumers use to compare products even with different features - as a shorthand way to shop for goods and services) but regardless of what you use, he grades out as a definitively superior player to Seth Curry.

The interesting thing is that certain measures have Simmons as CJ McCollum's inverse for this season. They were both roughly equivalent for this past year but Simmons D was the driver whereas McCollum's O was what created his net positive value. So the math works on several fronts but again, its probably not going to happen.
 

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Seth Curry is Avery nice player but this is some serious CJ disrespect. He’s a top 30ish player in the league. Seth is a nice role player. It’s a huge difference.
Yeah, I'm not the biggest McCollum fan but over the last 6 years he's averaged 22/4/4. Seth Curry has never averaged 13 ppg, and all he can do is score. Also, he's even older than CJ. Curry just finished the playoffs averaging just under 19 ppg, and his value has never been higher. CJ played relatively poorly, and still averaged more.

Any GM who says that they don't need CJ because they already have [Seth] Curry needs a punch in the face.
 

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Seth Curry is Avery nice player but this is some serious CJ disrespect. He’s a top 30ish player in the league. Seth is a nice role player. It’s a huge difference.
Maybe — which is why I added the caveat about “on a team that likes to run offense through Harris and Embiid.” CJ is a ball-pounder, which imo makes him almost as awkward a fit offensively with Embiid as Simmons is. And obviously, the defensive downgrade from Simmons is catastrophic.

Seth and Maxey are both under contract, too, so they’d be committing a huge amount of money to three little combo guards, leaving a Simmons-sized defensive hole with no way to fill it (since defensively versatile 6'-8"++ wings are the league’s most prized commodity).

Any GM who says that they don't need CJ because they already have [Seth] Curry needs a punch in the face.
I'd argue any GM who would trade Ben Simmons for CJ McCollum needs a punch in the face. :)
 

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Good one. Boy, we are seeing a few stars with serious shooting problems lately — Giannis, Fultz, Green, Simmons. A ton of guys seem to miss every other free throw. I had a high school coach tell me once that his players can’t hit free throws because they would rather practice three-pointers.
I'm sure that there's some truth to that. Free throws are boring and effective. Kids don't like practicing them.

There's mechanical issues, and there's confidence issues. The right coaches can address both.
 

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There was an article about how practicing free throws doesn’t necessarily make these players better at free throws in an NBA game. The argument was for those with low percentages it is mostly mental and that lots of players hit ~80% in practice but ~50% in games. It’s much more about the thought process they have under pressure.
 

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There was an article about how practicing free throws doesn’t necessarily make these players better at free throws in an NBA game. The argument was for those with low percentages it is mostly mental and that lots of players hit ~80% in practice but ~50% in games. It’s much more about the thought process they have under pressure.
I believe that about free throws. Wilt hit them good in practice, too. On the night he scored 100 points, Wilt made 28 of 32 FTs. But you put him in the playoffs, big trouble.
 

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I have said it before but is there a better fit then Simmons on the Celtics? (Smart would have to go).
The Nets? A Kyrie for Simmons trade is fascinating to think about as it would seem to significantly improve each team. However, like a Simmons to the C’s trade, it has a zero percent chance of happening.
 

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I’m not terribly opposed to the idea of adding Simmons to Tatum/Brown. But they had better find other ways to revamp the offense (acquire other shooters and/or major development from Langford/Nesmith/Pritchard). Because just think of how many shots Smart ends up taking in our offense due to the ball winding up in his hands with a few seconds remaining on the clock.
Yeah that’s why I had Smart in my trade both for salary match as well as fit. We don’t want to see an offense with both Smart and Simmons on the floor and then with TL you really have a bogged down offense.
 

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Yeah that’s why I had Smart in my trade both for salary match as well as fit. We don’t want to see an offense with both Smart and Simmons on the floor and then with TL you really have a bogged down offense.
Yeah, I meant even assuming Smart is gone. Can't have Simmons put in that situation instead.
 

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I'd argue any GM who would trade Ben Simmons for CJ McCollum needs a punch in the face. :)
That's fair, although it's being mentioned all over today. I think I said a few weeks ago that Philly really to trade Simmons for a CJ like player, but not CJ himself - I figured the McCollum wasn't valuable enough. Things do change, and it's a risky move for each team.

Doc says Ben can be fixed. But that’s what a coach has to say. Morey’s the voice that counts.

https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/sixers-doc-rivers-still-believes-in-ben-simmons-20210621.html
One of my favorite parts of the offseason is leaked video of Simmons hitting outside jumpers in scrimmages against 40 year olds at the Y. I imagine one way or another we'll see a lot of that over the next 3 months.
 

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As others said it’s hard to find the right team for a Ben Simmons trade. Who says no to a swap of Gordon Hayward for Simmons? Hayward is a much better fit next to Embiid. Charlotte doesn’t have a traditional big and would have a higher upside with Simmons.
 

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As others said it’s hard to find the right team for a Ben Simmons trade. Who says no to a swap of Gordon Hayward for Simmons? Hayward is a much better fit next to Embiid. Charlotte doesn’t have a traditional big and would have a higher upside with Simmons.
Charlotte definitely would do that I think, unless the overlap between Simmons and LaMelo is too awkward (man, it is tricky to find the right fits for Simmons).

Philly would hate doing that deal because it pushes their last chips into the middle for a slightly older guy with an injury history. They'd be better immediately I think, but one more Hayward injury and the Process is over.
 

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As others said it’s hard to find the right team for a Ben Simmons trade. Who says no to a swap of Gordon Hayward for Simmons? Hayward is a much better fit next to Embiid. Charlotte doesn’t have a traditional big and would have a higher upside with Simmons.
PHI probably. Hayward just can't seem to stay healthy. He's a really good fit, but you can't build a team where Embiid is your "healthier' star.
 

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Hmmmm, so I'm a Simmons fan, but I think he's shown enough issues in the playoffs now that teams are going to tread carefully. In the right situation he could be really, really good, but you have to be very convinced as a GM that you can create that situation. To me, he's moved out of the "acquire the talent and let it sort itself out" category and into the "better make sure you don't hamstring your franchise for 3-4 years if he doesn't quite fit" category.
Simmons for Kyrie.

Who would score on Brooklyn’s wings against Durant and Simmons and you still have the best offensive 1-2 duo in the game.
Sixers now have two of the best offensive players in the game while eliminating the awful fit with Embiid.

Who says no?
 

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Simmons for Kyrie.

Who would score on Brooklyn’s wings against Durant and Simmons and you still have the best offensive 1-2 duo in the game.
Sixers now have two of the best offensive players in the game while eliminating the awful fit with Embiid.

Who says no?
Probably the Nets but not because of on the court reasons, Durant and Kyrie seem to have been a package deal.
 

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Simmons for Kyrie.
This is an interesting one that I was wondering about a few days ago. KD might say no first, but I bet he'd really appreciate Simmons sharing the defensive load.

Edit: Part of the calculation has to include whether or not Kyrie supports the move himself. We know he'll kill a team if he's unhappy.