8/12 - Benintendi Returns a la Ellsbury

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Its interesting that with all the Yankee losing, Toronto keeps losing and doesn't gain ground on them.
If Seattle holds on against Texas, the Mariners leapfrog the Blue Jays by a half-game into the No. 1 WC spot. The Orioles have the third spot, a half-game ahead of the Rays and (should they win) the Twins
 

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Yeah, imagine if Bloom had gotten rid of JBJ and replaced him with a competent hitter on June 1 instead of August 1. This win might have meant something.
They'd probably have 1 more win if that. So the difference between this win mattering and not is a single game?

Also, as of June 1st JBJ was playing well, getting rid of him them would have made no sense. He was good through a big chunk of June too.
 
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Yeah, imagine if Bloom had gotten rid of JBJ and replaced him with a competent hitter on June 1 instead of August 1. This win might have meant something.
Really it’s the difference between keeping Renfroe and trading for Bradley. Which is a bit over 2 wins so far (so probably 3 by end of year, which may very much matter). And the additional salary absorbed which reduced flexibility. All for 2 prospects who aren’t top 30 in the system.

I like Bloom but this was very much a too cute by half move. The marginal wins matter a lot more to the Sox than say the Nationals or the Dodgers.
 

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They'd probably have 1 more win if that. So the difference between this win mattering and not is a single game?

Also, as of June 1st JBJ was playing well, getting rid of him them would have made no sense. He was good through a big chunk of June too.
Entering June 1, Bradley was batting .219 .278 .336, a 70 wRC+. Perhaps you meant June 1, 2020.
 

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Entering June 1, Bradley was batting .219 .278 .336, a 70 wRC+. Perhaps you meant June 1, 2020.
Because he sucked in April, as did a lot of guys. In May he was a league average hitter, and he continued to be through half of June. Dumping him June 1st would have made less than 0 sense.
 

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Because he sucked in April, as did a lot of guys. In May he was a league average hitter, and he continued to be through half of June. Dumping him June 1st would have made less than 0 sense.
Bradley enjoyed a productive series against the Angels at the beginning of May. During the remaining three-and-a-half weeks of the month, he batted .239 .292 .373, an 85 wRC+.
 

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According to multiple people on twitter yeah. Apparently asked by Johnny Miller.
I’m assuming Cora was annoyed is that Johnny is the favorite who always gets the first question and it seems kind of lame to ask a question like that after an emotional win.
 

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Because he sucked in April, as did a lot of guys. In May he was a league average hitter, and he continued to be through half of June. Dumping him June 1st would have made less than 0 sense.
But not acquiring him in the first place would have made perfect sense. He was literally one of the worst regulars last year. On the wrong side of 30. Making well more than R
Because he sucked in April, as did a lot of guys. In May he was a league average hitter, and he continued to be through half of June. Dumping him June 1st would have made less than 0 sense.
He had a .458 OPS in April. That’s a lot worse than a lot of guys. And that followed a season in which he put up an.497 OPS, good for for an OPS+ of 34.

And for the record, his June OPS was .423. He had a brief stretch in May where he wasn’t terrible. It was a mistake for Bloom to increase payroll for the “right” to acquire JBJ for Renfroe.

When all is said and done, it’s likely his biggest mistake in 2022.
 

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He had a .458 OPS in April. That’s a lot worse than a lot of guys. And that followed a season in which he put up an.497 OPS, good for for an OPS+ of 34.

And for the record, his June OPS was .423. He had a brief stretch in May where he wasn’t terrible. It was a mistake for Bloom to increase payroll for the “right” to acquire JBJ for Renfroe.

When all is said and done, it’s likely his biggest mistake in 2022.
His June ops sucked because after June 17th he finished out the month 1/31. First half of the month he was league average, which is why I said he was good through half of June. The Sox also went 7-3 in that 1/31 stretch, and 1 of the losses he didn't play, so even if they had somehow had the perfect foresight to realize he was about to go from good to worst hitter in baseball overnight and they had replaced him immediately it likely wouldn't have changed much of anything in terms of where the Sox would be right now.
 

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High, the chances are high that Reese would take matters into his own hands in public.
 

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I have an admitted tendency to take a break from this place when the team is playing like garbage. Just not fun to be around here when it‘s rough. Seems like a pretty good win tonight, fingers crossed it’s the start of getting back above .500 and threatening to crash the party.
 

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If Reese thought it was his job to get on base and set up the inning ending double play instead of hitting a sac fly to win the game, maybe he shouldn't be given the latitude to make those types of decisions on his own.
 

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If Reese thought it was his job to get on base and set up the inning ending double play instead of hitting a sac fly to win the game, maybe he shouldn't be given the latitude to make those types of decisions on his own.
Masterbatter Reese McGuire is beyond reproach.

/Ducks.

I thought Castiglione sounded like he was going to fall out of his chair when Reese squared.
 

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Masterbatter Reese McGuire is beyond reproach.

/Ducks.

I thought Castiglione sounded like he was going to fall out of his chair when Reese squared.
I thought it was because he thought he was going to announce the Sox beating NYY on a bunt, a real "can you believe it" moment.
But then he looked at 3rd base......

It set up the DP (bad), but I think McGuire really thought a bunt single would snag the win. With a faster (or more instinctive) runner at 3rd, it might have.
 

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Reese’s masterful dexterity with wood in his hands to get the runner to come, home from third, did not fully work as intended immediately, but the sploogefest gratification was merely delayed so that the next batter could get the job done.
 

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I like that Cora felt forced into doing something he didn’t want to do (Whitlock down a run). Maybe he’ll keep more games close and let this offense step up.
 

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Will Fleming should apologize today to Arroyo. He said he either missed a sign or wasn’t paying attention. Then he immediately stuck his foot in his mouth again saying it was an easy run if Arroyo ran when the ball got by the pitcher.

Joe C explained everything properly right after saying it was not obvious that ball was getting past Trevino and that McGuire might have bunted on his own.

Fleming is really terrible.