9/17 - Celtics vs. Heat, Eastern Conferences Finals Game 2

Jed Zeppelin

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I like Brad. This postseason has really shaken my perception of him though.
NBA coaching is mostly personality management and putting guys in good position to excel.

But when a team as talented as this runs into a zone D like it’s a brick wall, despite knowing it’s coming, it’s a real problem.

He’s going to need to prove that he’s a killer right along with his players.
 

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Yup. This team needs the 2020 version of James Posey and Eddie House. I don’t know who that is but the bench needs some vet shooters.
 

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Also I feel like he can readily solve technical issues but not sure about lack of effort etc. He's sort of a guy who let's those things work themselves out but you don't have that luxury in the postseason.
I think this is 100% correct. Brad seems like he’s a great guy, great at X’s and O’s but he has a few very glaring issues and they all seem tied to his inability to exert his will or personality on anything. Whether it be the refs, lack of effort, or the personality of the team. It’s a real issue and it’s very apparent at a time like this
 

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Yup. This team needs the 2020 version of James Posey and Eddie House. I don’t know who that is but the bench needs some vet shooters.
Any shooters. The Romeo pick really stings in a league where shooting is SO valuable. He's like 3-4 seasons away from being a good shooter IF he develops. I like his defense, but yet to see anything he brings offensively other than a nice ability to NOT shoot (cough Semi). Maybe we get lucky with Grant as a Tucker type spacer. Romeo though...I just don't see anything there.
 

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Semi over Grant and Kanter over Timelord specifically
Kanter over Timeorld probably made sense tonight ; the Grant/Semi thing... neither is a vet. TimeLord played a lot against Raps.

The only problem I have with Brad is why can’t his team beat the zone? This has been like a thing even when we were trying to get the 8 seed his second year. Zone always stifles the Cs.
 

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I hope Smart called them “sissies.”

Tatum is brilliant — but he was repeatedly reluctant to shoot in the 4th. If he doesn’t have the killer instinct, he’s our Paul George.

Jaylen has every right to be pissed. The offense marginalizes him.

Nice to see good Kemba. But he’s a massive problem on D.

The Celts look like they‘re not ready.
 

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How do we know enough detail to know it was a remote and a mop bucket but not the teammate they were thrown at?
probably multiple targets in the area and the second half shooting accuracy continued into the locker room
 

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What is significant about a 14 point lead? Leads routinely evaporate in NBA games. There is a ton of research out there on this.
It was the way it has happened. Obviously. 20 TOs and 19 assists, first time since 1983, but call it “Miami executed better”. Maybe you are right, Celtics played well and Miami is just better. We should just kill gamethreads. No need.
 

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Tatum wants to play like his idol and there are times where he shows that kind of ability. The problem is that his idol was a basketball killer and Tatum hasn't shown that. This team has a lot of talent, but they don't have a player who takes the ball and says get on my back when things aren't going well. The talent is there, but something is missing.

Miami will likely win the series and be destroyed by the Lakers. They play hard, but they will be dominated.
 

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Tatum wants to play like his idol and there are times where he shows that kind of ability. The problem is that his idol was a basketball killer and Tatum hasn't shown that. This team has a lot of talent, but they don't have a player who takes the ball and says get on my back when things aren't going well. The talent is there, but something is missing.

Miami will likely win the series and be destroyed by the Lakers. They play hard, but they will be dominated.
Go Nuggets.
 

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Brad strikes me as not a yeller.

Maybe he needs to drop the choir boy act and start really giving these guys some real shit. A lot of them are still young enough to remember high school and college coaches screaming at them and it might just wake them up.

I wonder if he's starting to wonder if Ainge and Wyc are starting to wonder about him.
 

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When some of us were losing our shit in here with some of the calls-non-calls in the 3rd qtr that seemed to spark the implosion, i would have loved to see Brad lose his shit.
 

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Tatum wants to play like his idol and there are times where he shows that kind of ability. The problem is that his idol was a basketball killer and Tatum hasn't shown that. This team has a lot of talent, but they don't have a player who takes the ball and says get on my back when things aren't going well. The talent is there, but something is missing.

Miami will likely win the series and be destroyed by the Lakers. They play hard, but they will be dominated.
Is it the killer instinct mamba mentality missing or is it his handle is still loose, he doesn't have enough experience as a playmaker yet, and is possibly exhausted having just finished a grueling 7 game series where he carried the load?

Its probably the psychology yea.
 

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Stevens is Coach 4 Life with his contract extension. Wyc doesn’t strike me as an owner who is going to fire a coach and pay him for years, especially when he is probably going to lose a full season and 2 playoffs worth of gates.
You have news on next season?
 

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It was the way it has happened. Obviously. 20 TOs and 19 assists, first time since 1983, but call it “Miami executed better”. Maybe you are right, Celtics played well and Miami is just better. We should just kill gamethreads. No need.
I am not saying that. And I agree they executed better. I get people are frustrated. I am too.

But there are actual basketball reasons and not necessarily emotional ones - or at least reasons that don't require us to speculate on the mental states of professional athletes who would not likely be in the NBA, let alone the conference finals if they were that emotionally fragile.

That said, people can discuss what they want and should. We don't have to agree that intestinal fortitude is a factor. It may well be the main one but we have no evidence of it aside from outcome. Its a sports radio trope and I believe we are supposed to be better than that in 2020.
 

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Brad strikes me as not a yeller.

Maybe he needs to drop the choir boy act and start really giving these guys some real shit. A lot of them are still young enough to remember high school and college coaches screaming at them and it might just wake them up.

I wonder if he's starting to wonder if Ainge and Wyc are starting to wonder about him.
It’s not an “act” - it’s just not him and if he tried to yell it would probably be comical. For better or worse he is who he is.
 

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Marcus Smart is screaming in the #Celtics locker room and there is a bunch of arguing going on. Smart comes out say “y’all on that bullshit!” Team is imploding. Smart is in bathroom and there is still screaming coming from locker room.
 

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Someone mentioned Theis did not play well, which, I'd say on the whole, was true.

One play he DID make was a killer. Dove to the floor for a loose ball and corralled it. Had he just fumbled it around, there would have been a 24 second violation. Instead, it was ruled Boston had possession and called a jump ball. The jump ball resulted in a 4 point play, cut the lead from 10 to 6 and opened the floodgates (next thing you know, Miami was up 7 or 8 points).