A Futile and Stupid Gesture On Our Part - 7.24.22

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The Sox player development leaves a lot to be desired lately. I mean, he’s 23.
Certainly on the offensive side, but yeah, no one who has been called up seems terribly impressive. I guess the narrative is to blame the lost year that every minor leaguer lost.
 

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So in that inning, the runs scored involved Sawamura balking twice inside a minute, Jeter Downs throwing home into the runner's back, and Sawamura completely losing track of where the bag was.

They're bad at baseball. Full stop.
 

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Certainly on the offensive side, but yeah, no one who has been called up seems terribly impressive. I guess the narrative is to blame the lost year that every minor leaguer lost.
Maybe the Sox punted on player development in 2020 the way they punted on the major league season that year.
 

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What happened with Sawamura was he tried to get the grounder and missed it. Once he missed the grounder, he had to take a route to the bag that was somewhat counter-intuitive to what they practice for a pitcher covering first. From LL on up, the pitcher practices to take an indirect (almost a hook route) to the bag. Because he was so far away from the plate at that point, he actually had to come back a little.so his footwork was all screwed up.

All that said, the error sucked.
 

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What happened with Sawamura was he tried to get the grounder and missed it. Once he missed the grounder, he had to take a route to the bag that was somewhat counter-intuitive to what they practice for a pitcher covering first. From LL on up, the pitcher practices to take an indirect (almost a hook route) to the bag. Because he was so far away from the plate at that point, he actually had to come back a little.so his footwork was all screwed up.

All that said, the error sucked.
Are you mansplaining suckage to us?
 

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Is Stripling hurt? He must be pissed not working the fifth for the win.
Dan Shulman and Pat Tabler said it may have been a perfect storm of things to prompt Schneider to pull him early: the heat, third time through the lineup, relatively rested BP, performance not totally up to snuff.
 

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The Sox player development leaves a lot to be desired lately. I mean, he’s 23.
I don't mean to dump on Downs, but how many position players have the Sox developed lately - like a league averageish guy? How many project position players have they "fixed?"

Dalbec and Verdugo debuted in 2020 - but each has a significant downward trajectory.
 

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The Sox should start a raffle where the winner gets to take an at-bat or play an inning in the field...all proceeds will go to the Jimmy Fund. The results, whatever they may be, could not be less entertaining than this mess.
 

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I don't mean to dump on Downs, but how many position players have the Sox developed lately - like a league averageish guy? How many project position players have they "fixed?"

Dalbec and Verdugo debuted in 2020 - but each has a significant downward trajectory.
Or pitchers? They stole Whitlock from the Yankees. Houck is a mixed bag in my opinion (see the recent Yankees roller coasters). All the eggs are in the Casas basket, I guess.

Asking people to wait 2-3 more years for this machine to kick into effect is going to be a challenge.
 

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Why would you waste Whitlock in this game? This game needs Deikman and Ort. Maybe Big Fudge. Time to piss on the fire and call in the dogs.
 

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Certainly on the offensive side, but yeah, no one who has been called up seems terribly impressive. I guess the narrative is to blame the lost year that every minor leaguer lost.
Depending on how big a Rafaela believer one is, and I’m skeptical, it’s probably Casas and then a 2+ year wait for an impact bat. The strength of the system is all Greenville and below. They should start producing relievers next year and backend starters are here a year early. Really need the impending sell off to hit on some near majors bats.
 

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Or pitchers? They stole Whitlock from the Yankees. Houck is a mixed bag in my opinion (see the recent Yankees roller coasters). All the eggs are in the Casas basket, I guess.

Asking people to wait 2-3 more years for this machine to kick into effect is going to be a challenge.
The teams the next two years could be quite a bit worse than this year. I know the hope is they nail free agency but that’s easier said than done .
 

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Or pitchers? They stole Whitlock from the Yankees. Houck is a mixed bag in my opinion (see the recent Yankees roller coasters). All the eggs are in the Casas basket, I guess.

Asking people to wait 2-3 more years for this machine to kick into effect is going to be a challenge.
Well, they've had success in improving marginal pitchers, so I have few issues with their efforts on that score.

If they were able to resurrect bats, then I'd be more forgiving if they couldn't find ML average bats in a weak (upper) farm system. But Dalbec resurging when Schwarber worked with him last year says it all to me. Maybe he's just a meat-head, but he seems fixable. Why not spend a million on a small staff to fix him? They're going to spend far more than that to replace him.

Refsnyder might be a good recent example, but he also hasn't played that much.
 

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Depending on how big a Rafaela believer one is, and I’m skeptical, it’s probably Casas and then a 2+ year wait for an impact bat. The strength of the system is all Greenville and below. They should start producing relievers next year and backend starters are here a year early. Really need the impending sell off to hit on some near majors bats.
Looks like a 5:26 BB/K ratio with the Sea Dogs. Goodness I miss guys like Mookie that would work walks. Dude walked more than he struck out in his last stint in the minors. At least Casas doesn't seem to have an major issue with it.
 
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