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Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork (knee) is dressed in full pads for practice.
Patriots rookie center Bryan Stork (knee) is dressed in full pads for practice.
A New Day in New England: Stork Practices
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drleather2001 said:
They did look great; but deep depth is great, too
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Follow-up on Stork: he had no noticeable limp.
drleather2001 said:
JerBear said:
E5 Yaz said:
And Seattle's DTs are arguably the weakest part of their very awesome defense. And we know what preventing interior pressure means for Brady, so bolstering this match-up would be huge.
Kline had a great showing in terms of run blocking against the Colts - you can see some his work here that exhibits his quickness. But he still remains a liability in pass protection. Good example of an offensive lineman who appears far more comfortable with a first step that moves forward and initiates contact as opposed to pass pro where you are adjusting to oncoming defenders.drleather2001 said:
Right., Kline was impressive and -- in real-time on the broadcast -- seemed to have a very strong first move after the snap on running plays.nazz45 said:
I know it's the Super Bowl, so you don't want to get cute (especially with who's snapping), but I wonder whether they would consider some kind of rotation. Considering that Stork's knee is probably not going to be 100%, I wonder whether they would give Kline a few snaps as give Stork a blow, particularly in running situations?
The PFW guys said DeGuglielmo was unusually forthright at Media Day yesterday. Some tidbits:
- He thinks the line is faster and more agile with Kline in and Wendell at center.
- They call Kline "cucumber" because nothing fazes him. Apparently Dante used to savage him last season and he never seemed to get upset by it.
- The rotations and struggles earlier this season may have been a benefit, because a lot of players realized they could be successful at multiple positions on the line, and everyone had to prepare as if they were starting.
I know it sounds crazy, but would the team will consider some kind of rotation to keep guys fresh?
- He thinks the line is faster and more agile with Kline in and Wendell at center.
- They call Kline "cucumber" because nothing fazes him. Apparently Dante used to savage him last season and he never seemed to get upset by it.
- The rotations and struggles earlier this season may have been a benefit, because a lot of players realized they could be successful at multiple positions on the line, and everyone had to prepare as if they were starting.
I know it sounds crazy, but would the team will consider some kind of rotation to keep guys fresh?
dynomite said:
Some more stuff from Googs--he spoke to Bedard, told Bedard that Solder was his second choice at LT in the league after T. Smith (they must have forgotten about Joe Thomas), told Bedard that Jason Peters is "sloppy," suggested to Bedard that they'd wanted Stork to start at center from day 1 but that the injury threw things off track, and said that he learned that Mankins was getting traded when BB announced it to the whole team--it sounds like Googs wasn't aware that Mankins was potentially leaving the team until after the fact leading to the scrambling we all saw.
I don't think they rotate guys at the Superbowl if everyone stays healthy. It does seem like the coaching staff like Kline a lot more than the rest
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/01/27/bedard-deguglielmo-offers-high-praise-for-nate-solder/
Would it be fair to say that Run Blocking is a "Physical Talent" while Pass Blocking is more "Technique".
Obviously you need technique and the physical tools to do both well at this level......this is all at the Nth degree.
But I wonder if Pass Blocking might be easier to "Develop" then Run Blocking. Run Blocking a guy is either a "Mauler" or he isnt.
If my theory holds any water.....then the Kline love makes sense.
They could well be assessing him as "Great run Blocker, Needs coaching and technique refinement on pass blocking" which would match what many of us have observed.
If Pass Blocking is hard to teach (or a long shot to succeed at teaching) then I doubt he would have as much love from the coaches. On the flip side if Line coaches are confident that they can improve someones pass Blocking (because he has the physical tools...just needs technique) then Kline would look like a really good project.
Please anyone with more experience correct me or add to the discussion.
I would say there's just as much technique in run blocking, depending on the scheme. Even if a player's assignment is just to shove the guy in front of him, it's as much about leverage as just physical strength. On many plays the assignment is more complicated - cut blocking on the backside, pulling to lead block, double-teaming and then moving to the second level, "reach blocks" to wall off a defender that's lined up in a different gap, etc. - and these plays require both physical skill but also technique and footwork.bakahump said:
E5 Yaz said:
Tremendous, even as a backup possibility. Could be a real war of attrition tomorrow.
He was probably likely to play as Questionable; I think this is more a message. Belichick often likes to take a lot of guys off the injury report before big games, for some reason.E5 Yaz said:
ESPNStatsInfo ESPN Stats & Info
Patriots C Bryan Stork now probable. Patriots averaged 4.2 yards per rush with Stork on the field this season (3.3 without him)
Impressive stat.
The guy did win the Rimington award (best college center). He might just be the biggest draft theft (4th rounder) at the postion since they stole Dan Koppen in the 5th round back in '03.
Stork is the nastiest OL since Mankins and by a mile. One more decent draft and we may be set for a number of years, along with Fleming and continued development of Kline.