A Question From a Football/Soccer Novice

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After actually viewing the World Cup matches this summer, I became somewhat intrigued with the sport. Given my longstanding love for the Beatles (and, yes, I saw them perform live at both the Garden and at Suffolk Downs), and given the fact that the Red Sox own Liverpool F.C., I would like to follow the Reds. I have no clue, however, who plays for them, how to view their games online, etc. I have their schedule and began to track them on their official website, but do any of you have any suggestions I can follow up on in order to remove some of my ignorance to the current team?
 
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And, yes, I am somewhat mortified that I actually LIVED in England for three years in the early 1980''s and literally paid no attention to the sport and its teams back then; I was too consumed with following the NFL on Channel 4 at the time (with former Pat John Smith providing analysis.)
 

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NBC Sports will broadcast every game over the course of the season. Liverpool will be very easy to follow, and should be entertaining.
 
Edit: Wikipedia isn't a bad place to go for team/player info- the Liverpool thread around here is always very populated as well.
 

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This might seem like a dumb advice, but if you have even a passing interest in video games, playing FIFA will help a lot to learn about positions, tactics, rules, player names and their characteristics and so forth. 
 

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rodderick said:
This might seem like a dumb advice, but if you have even a passing interest in video games, playing FIFA will help a lot to learn about positions, tactics, rules, player names and their characteristics and so forth. 
 
FIFA is a good idea, Football Manager is another.  
 
Also, scan through this year's (and even previous) Liverpool threads here on SoSH.  You'l get up to date right quick.  
 

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FIFA is great. Someone in a World Cup thread said that novices should read the book "Inverting The Pyramid" about tactics. I just picked it up, and it's an easy and informative read, if not a little boring.

This year, I got the Fox Soccer membership, to watch non-EPL games.
 

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You have chosen...wisely.
 
Official site for all player & fixture details: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/
 
Unofficial stat site, the season archive is fantastic: http://www.lfchistory.net/
 
If you're in Boston, get to know these guys: http://www.lfcboston.com/
 
If you're on Twitter, give these guys a follow to begin with: @TheAnfieldWrap (the podcasts can be particularly entertaining), @paul_tomkins (writer, can be a bit dry but good stuff), @TonyBarrettTimes (Liverpool-based writer of The Times), @Kristian_Walsh (fan & now writer for local Liverpool Echo)
 
Take your time, watch as much as you can (YouTube is your friend) and join in the conversations in the Liverpool thread here, which is by far the busiest section of the forum. And don't forget, there's no such thing as a stupid question. Mighty impressive that you've seen the Beatles live, too!
 

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Just what the site needs, another Liverpool fan
 
There is hardly an easier team to follow.  I don't know if you get NESN but they often show Liverpool matches on tape delay if you can't see them live (which is easy).  You said you wanted to know more about Liverpool's current team, to learn this try to download recordings of Southampton's 2013 season.
 

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mascho said:
 
FIFA is a good idea, Football Manager is another.  
 
Also, scan through this year's (and even previous) Liverpool threads here on SoSH.  You'l get up to date right quick.  
 
I'd vote for FIFA for a newbie to the sport.  FM is not an entry-level game and would be overwhelming for someone who doesn't know the game.
 

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Just what the site needs, another Liverpool fan
 
There is hardly an easier team to follow.  I don't know if you get NESN but they often show Liverpool matches on tape delay if you can't see them live (which is easy).  You said you wanted to know more about Liverpool's current team, to learn this try to download recordings of Southampton's 2013 season.
 
 

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I can help some, lamabe.
 
 
Liverpool is captained by the most overrated Englishman since Holly Johnson.  Their supporters are known for two things, stealing hubcaps off of vehicles in their neighborhoods and being delusional about their squad.  For the past few years, their star player was a known racist who bit people when he got upset.  He's gone now though so its okay.
 

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I can't believe there wasn't anything about candlelight vigils in that extremely accurate description, Zomp.  That was a real slip up on your part.
 

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Luis Taint said:
FIFA is great. Someone in a World Cup thread said that novices should read the book "Inverting The Pyramid" about tactics. I just picked it up, and it's an easy and informative read, if not a little boring.

This year, I got the Fox Soccer membership, to watch non-EPL games.
 
Holy shit, isn't it? I mean, I've learned a lot from it but goddamn if I don't have to put that thing down after 10 pages at a time.
 

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Zomp said:
 
Liverpool is captained by the most overrated Englishman since Holly Johnson.  
 
Lamabe, nice of Zomp to give you an early example of the wonderful repartee that exists on the Liverpool forum between us and the rivals 35 miles down the road in Manchester. To continue the example, I would respond with:
 
Scored a goal for the winning team in the League Cup Final (vs Man Utd)
Scored a goal for the winning team in the FA Cup Final (vs West Ham)
Scored a goal for the winning team in the UEFA Cup Final (vs Alaves)
Scored a goal for the winning team in the Champions League Final (vs AC Milan)
The only player, EVER, to have done that.
 
Just think of all the fun you can have winding up Zomp (Man Utd), teddy (Man City), snake (Chelsea) and plenty of others during the course of the season. Mind, expect to get a bit back in return, which is fair enough.
 
Happy days. Oh, and don't forget to join the EPL Fantasy league as well as you've only got a week left. See the separate thread for that.
 

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rembrat said:
 
Holy shit, isn't it? I mean, I've learned a lot from it but goddamn if I don't have to put that thing down after 10 pages at a time.
 
I've found it to be the perfect thing for my subway ride for this reason. Of course, at this rate I'm going to finish it next year--but it is a good read.
 

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Zomp said:
I can help some, lamabe.
 
 
Liverpool is captained by the most overrated Englishman since Holly Johnson.  Their supporters are known for two things, stealing hubcaps off of vehicles in their neighborhoods and being delusional about their squad.  For the past few years, their star player was a known racist who bit people when he got upset.  He's gone now though so its okay.
 
 
Get a bad prawn sandwich this morning, Zomp?
 

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The best part is that Manchester United are on the verge of naming the guy who truly is the most overrated Englishman playing today as their captain.
 

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The best part is that Manchester United are on the verge of naming the guy who truly is the most overrated Englishman playing today as their captain.
 
BUT HE SCORED A GOAL IN THE WORLD CUP.
 

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I can't believe there wasn't anything about candlelight vigils in that extremely accurate description, Zomp.  That was a real slip up on your part.
Hopefully someone else picked up on the slipping part.
 

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Hopefully someone else picked up on the slipping part.
I'm not sure Zomp or Teddy have made a post related at all to Liverpool that hasn't contained the word "slip" in months.
 

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Don't let them get you down. Gerrard is still good. Look at his assist in the Uruguay match, a beautiful header right into the path of Suarez for the easy goal.
 

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rembrat said:
Holy shit, isn't it? I mean, I've learned a lot from it but goddamn if I don't have to put that thing down after 10 pages at a time.
To be fair, I said it was dry.
 

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I'm not sure Zomp or Teddy have made a post related at all to Liverpool that hasn't contained the word "slip" in months.
And I don't intend to stop until 2015. And I reserve the right to slip it in there when Gods gift to humanity and football retires
 

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To be fair to Teddy, I'd be doing the same thing with Kompany's brilliant flick to set up Coutinho's winner if Liverpool had pulled it off.
 

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And to be serious for just a moment...
 
Jack, read up on the Hillsborough disaster, and watch a replay of the ESPN 30 for 30 about it if you can.
 

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To be fair to Teddy, I'd be doing the same thing with Kompany's brilliant flick to set up Coutinho's winner if Liverpool had pulled it off.
You're a better man than I. I was all set to post the Munich song.
 

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Yeah I said this in the Everton thread but if you're choosing teams based on the Beatles, you should go for the blue side of town. When I visited Liverpool I was told that Everton was John Lennon's club, and McCartney himself has said he comes from a family of Evertonians so that's how he would lean - though Brian Epstein supposedly told the Beatles not to declare their allegiances.

http://www.liverpool...-secret-3480457
 

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Awfully churlish of you given that play gifted the title to you lot. A few years ago you were getting blasted by Blackburn at home, now this.
We are still likely to get blasted by Blackburn at home. Hell, we're Sunderlands easiest 3 points every season!
 

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Awfully churlish of you given that play gifted the title to you lot. A few years ago you were getting blasted by Blackburn at home, now this.
 
Sweet, sweet oil money. 
 
Can we move all the Man city threads to the Yankee Forum, where they rightfully belong?
 

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Sweet, sweet oil money. 
 
Can we move all the Man city threads to the Yankee Forum, where they rightfully belong?
No no...ManCity=Yankees is lazy (well, shut up about NYCFC).

Yankees are aristocracy...they are old money. They look down at the Man City's of the world for spending like drunk sailors, and dancing to Journey on the golf course. The Yankees sense of entitlement is based on ManCity not being part of their club up on East Egg the right way...but flexing financial muscles recently, rather than all along.

If there was a team that was hell bent on maintaining the status quo, while spending a great amount of money on transfers and wages, AND their fans have an extreme sense of entitlement...those are your Yankees.
 

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No no...ManCity=Yankees is lazy (well, shut up about NYCFC).

Yankees are aristocracy...they are old money. They look down at the Man City's of the world for spending like drunk sailors, and dancing to Journey on the golf course. The Yankees sense of entitlement is based on ManCity not being part of their club up on East Egg the right way...but flexing financial muscles recently, rather than all along.

If there was a team that was hell bent on maintaining the status quo, while spending a great amount of money on transfers and wages, AND their fans have an extreme sense of entitlement...those are your Yankees.
So the Yankees are Real Madrid?
 

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Zomp said:
I can help some, lamabe.
 
 
Liverpool is captained by the most overrated Englishman since Holly Johnson.  Their supporters are known for two things, stealing hubcaps off of vehicles in their neighborhoods and being delusional about their squad.  For the past few years, their star player was a known racist who bit people when he got upset.  He's gone now though so its okay.
 
I've read some of the repostes to Zomp's unwittingly tawdry post. If Zomp had said, the most overrated Englishman since William Blake, the post would have some weight. Now i know and you know Zomp has no idea who William Blake is, that's fine, but William Blake is one of England's greatest men...(he was a painter and engraver)...but he's not everyone's cup of tea, he was part mystic, part modernist, he split the audience, he's loved, revered and also hated...in short he can be truly overrated.
 
More recently one might choose George Michael (Zomp has always reminded me of Andrew Ridgley, i can't be the only one) but that's a much better comp. He was first perceived as a participator in a boy band pop duo, then we realised he wrote his own tunes, then he went solo, then he went overboard in his experiments with facial hair, then he boffed a guy in a toilet and slipped up whilst in a car smoking the weeds, then he got all serious, then we found out he was depressed, then he recorded music with orchestras and so on and so forth...over this reputation and estimations of his artistic stature has swelled far beyond his 'Young guns having some fun' period.
 
Holly Johnson is in fact underrated. His collaboration (and it was a collaboration) with Trevor Horn is narey a footnote in the history of post war popular music. Even though lyrically and vocally his work on WTTPD is sublime and shows to this day a mastery of 'the attack of pop' and so on and so forth...no need to go on. WTTPD is never mentioned in the lists of great debut LP's; great double LP's or great British LPs which it undoubtably is. If one does not believe take a listen...the record still holds up incredibly well. FGTH were never given credit for having any creative input into their music, this was a mistake and untrue.
 
Anyway, point is. Zomp didn't take long enough to think about finding a suitable comparison to serve his point, which is valid and he's entitled to make, and so, sadly, his post falls flat as even an entry level troll post. Sorry to bring music into the thread but...one must start the argument where it starts. Mick Hucknall would have been much better comp as well.
 

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No no...ManCity=Yankees is lazy (well, shut up about NYCFC).

Yankees are aristocracy...they are old money. They look down at the Man City's of the world for spending like drunk sailors, and dancing to Journey on the golf course. The Yankees sense of entitlement is based on ManCity not being part of their club up on East Egg the right way...but flexing financial muscles recently, rather than all along.

If there was a team that was hell bent on maintaining the status quo, while spending a great amount of money on transfers and wages, AND their fans have an extreme sense of entitlement...those are your Yankees.
 
 
 

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So the Yankees are Real Madrid?
For all my problems with Real, they don't seem to care about what other teams are doing very much. They aren't the Yankees...they are Franco.