Papelbon's Poutine said:
And if you continue to page 162 you will read:
Unless you know the results of this provision, then you or anyone else can't say that Ortiz or Ramirez tested positive for steroids.
Not sure where I said anything about Ortiz and Ramirez. Not sure what the provision has to do with anything I said either. To be on the positive list in 2003 you had to have tested positive twice or tested positive the first test for a substance which could not have been found in an OTC supplement.
It is possible both Ortiz and Ramirez tested positive for something in a OTC supplement and then ignored instructions to discontinue the supplements for the 2nd test. Not sure why nobody has asked them why they ignored the instructions if OTC supplements were the reason for the positive test.
Today of course supplements are not an acceptable excuse. If you test positive, it matters not where the drug came from, you still get suspended for using a PED.