A-Rod admits he bought and used steroids from Anthony Bosch

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
 
And if you continue to page 162 you will read: 
 




 




 
Unless you know the results of this provision, then you or anyone else can't say that Ortiz or Ramirez tested positive for steroids. 
 
Not sure where I said anything about Ortiz and Ramirez.  Not sure what the provision has to do with anything I said either.  To be on the positive list in 2003 you had to have tested positive twice or tested positive the first test for a substance which could not have been found in an OTC supplement.
 
It is possible both Ortiz and Ramirez tested positive for something in a OTC supplement and then ignored instructions to discontinue the supplements for the 2nd test.  Not sure why nobody has asked them why they ignored the instructions if OTC supplements were the reason for the positive test.  
 
Today of course supplements are not an acceptable excuse. If you test positive, it matters not where the drug came from, you still get suspended for using a PED.
 

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I recall reading something similar to this even before testing was done (maybe in the NYT?). Does anyone else recall the concept of inducing false positives?
 

On the same day that David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez were tied to that infamous 2003 MLB drug test, Oakland A’s infielder Nomar Garciaparra said that several players declined to participate and asked that they be put down as testing positive.
 
He claims to know players who took this route because they wanted steroids testing — including several members of the White Sox. Garciaparra admits that he doesn’t know if players were forced to take the test or not.
 
 
 

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geoduck no quahog said:
 
I recall reading something similar to this even before testing was done (maybe in the NYT?). Does anyone else recall the concept of inducing false positives?
 

 

 
 
Seems the players were forced to back down according to this
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/12/sports/baseball-the-white-sox-take-a-stand-on-steroid-tests.html
 


The players, who were not identified, relented only after Wunsch spoke with the players association and was told that the players' action was inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement, which for the first time provides for testing for steroids.