- Dec 22, 2002
My bad for not making it clear, I meant he could have easily killed him. Ive never even held a real gun and am hardly an expert but shooting someone in the face sounds like attempted murder to me. That guy could easily be dead right now barring some "good luck." If losing an eye can be considered lucky.soxfan121 said:
DeJesus Built My Hotrod said:Its worth noting that there were people in the crowd outside the hearing today wearing Hernandez jerseys. And I don't think all of them were Enterprise employees.
singaporesoxfan said:Things I've learnt from Star Trek and the Hernandez case: Enterprise and red shirts = someone's going to get killed.
Ralphwiggum said:The system may not be perfect but I think (I hope) everyone appreciates why we don't convict people of murder based solely on what the police say happened at an arraignment hearing. Right now things look spectacularly bad for Hernandez. But right now all we know is what the police have told us, and those facts have been presented to us so as to support the motion to deny him bail.
anyone addressed why he rented all of these darned cars? I'd think
that if you did a crime and used your own car, it would be easier to get
rid of the forensics trail by making it disappear somehow.
Byrdbrain said:One thing I'm curious about is that the police court statement said 5 casings were recovered at the scene and also one was in the car.
It has also been stated that 5 shots were fired.
One of these statements isn't correct.
Probably not a big deal just something I noticed.
two through and through wounds to the victim's chest. Police returned to the scene and dug where the victim was, they found the bullets, indicating the victim was on the ground when he was shot. Both bullets were .45 caliber, consistent with the casings found. All fired from the same unknown gun
I agree with just about everything until your last sentence. OK, maybe partially disagree. While it's way too early to call this prosecution's case a slam dunk, many a prosecutor would love to have the amount of evidence in a murder trial that the Bristol County DA has right now. Marcia Clark would have loved to have had half that evidence.MuellerMen said:This where I'm at. I'm 99.9% sure that Aaron Hernandez pulled the trigger and is responsible for murdering a man whom he called a good friend. And, when I read the Reddit post that CaptainLaddie summarized, I'm astonished that anyone (read: his attorney) can claim otherwise. Yet . . . that 0.01% doubt rests in the judicial system - and all the potential flaws it's riddled with. I think it's more likely than not that the prosecution in O.J.'s case rendered a long list of damning evidence as impressive as what's summarised on the Reddit list. We all know how the the OJ trial turned out. At an arraignment, clearly the prosecution has the advantage of surprise and spotlight. The defense has hardly begun its work. In the court, the scales are more balanced. I hate even thinking this, but unless Hernandez's defense in this case turns out to be every bit as inept as the prosecution in OJ's case - or the judge does something equally stupid - Hernandez's legal guilt is no slam dunk.
pdub said:For what its worth, there's even a pic of Hernandez in his friend Carlos Ortiz's Facebook profile. They were definitely linked.
MuellerMen said:Stop what? Explaining my position, having an opinion? That was my only post in this thread, so I'm not sure what you mean exactly.
You've been cited by the "Logic Police", you must cease and desist, or else face a barrage of discreditation. Your opinions don't matter unless they're solely based on tangible evidence, and even then you're not allowed to treat them with any sort of strict belief.MuellerMen said:
Stop what? Explaining my position, having an opinion? That was my only post in this thread, so I'm not sure what you mean exactly.
moly99 said:None of it is the BS police usually throw at possibly innocent people though. There's nothing about Hernandez looking guilty when told of Lloyd's death, or that he didn't have an alibi or whatever. This is all very cut and dry stuff. Either they have a video of Hernandez returning to his house holding a gun or they don't. Either they have a video of Hernandez's vehicle driving into the industrial park with Lloyd in the car and then coming out without him or they don't.
This is all circumstantial evidence, but it is also objective rather than subjective.
I imagine it must take a little while to shave a toothbrush into a sharp point.
Kilgore A. Trout said:Just checking in to see if Hernandez killed anyone in jail overnight. I imagine it must take a little while to shave a toothbrush into a sharp point.
Average Reds said:How about this: stop speculating about things you don't seem to understand, like the standard for what constitutes legal guilt or innocence. Or making analogies to the OJ case without really understanding what happened to cause his acquittal and why it has almost no bearing on this case.
MuellerMen said:I see. By your logic, then, only members of the legal community should contribute to this forum, as arbitrated by you. I understand that my post may have been speculative, but it was also clearly stated and sparked some discussion, which I thought was the point of a forum. Those who responded to my post, while they didn't necessarily agree with me, at least responded in a measured way and made good points. Your point, meanwhile, was merely to say "shut up," as though you are the final arbiter of what should be discussed on this non-legal forum. If speculation is objectionable, in my view it is just as (if not more) objectionable, in the context of a forum, to silence a discussion of what isn't palatable to you.
rembrat said:Then no one snitched (yet).. Prosecutors knew about the mood inside of the car how exactly?