AFC and NFC Championship game thread

snowmanny

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I have a hard time seeing SF beat LA, but I usually don’t know shit.
In two games against SF the LAR have 543 yards on offense and 258 of those are by Kupp. If the 49ers can contain Kupp at all I’m not sure how the Rams score. So that might be one way.
 

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I have a hard time seeing SF beat LA, but I usually don’t know shit.
Probably not a predictor or anything, but the 49ers have won 6 straight against the Rams, all Shannahan vs. McVay. Recent history is in SF's favor.

I do think the Rams win. They look like the best team remaining, IMO. Stafford has been playing well, the defense looks like a unit that can pressure with 4 and cover. They killed the Cardinals and should've killed the Bucs. The 2nd half was a clusterfuck but they're unlikely to lose 4 fumbles again. Didn't run the ball well against Tampa but very few teams do.
 

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It's a game of matchups, and for some reason the 49ers seem to be a very difficult matchup for the Rams. Since it's no longer a small sample but dates back several years, I don't really see a reason why that should change this week. That said, it still feels to me like the Rams are a better team; but maybe it's just a specifically bad matchup for them.
 

snowmanny

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This year they haven’t been able to run the ball vs SF but I don’t think that’s historically the issue.
 

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Rankings of the NFL's 4 conference championship teams the last 5 years.

2017
Jax: #5 points off, #6 yds off, #2 points def, #2 yds def
NE: #2 points off, #1 yds off, #5 points def, #29 yds def
Phi: #3 points off, #7 yds off, #4 points def, #4 yds def

Min: #10 points off, #11 yds off, #1 points def, #1 yds def

2018
KC: #1 points off, #1 yds off, #24 points def, #31 yds def
NE: #4 points off, #5 yds off, #7 points def, #21 yds def
LAR: #2 points off, #2 yds off, #20 points def, #19 yds def
NO: #3 points off, #8 yds off, #14 points def, #14 yds def

2019
KC: #5 points off, #6 yds off, #7 points def, #17 yds def
Ten: #10 points off, #12 yds off, #12 points def, #21 yds def
SF: #2 points off, #4 yds off, #8 points def, #2 yds def
GB: #15 points off, #18 yds off, #9 points def, #18 yds def

2020
KC: #6 points off, #1 yds off, #10 points def, #16 yds def
Buf: #2 points off, #2 yds off, #16 points def, #14 yds def
TB: #3 points off, #7 yds off, #8 points def, #6 yds def
GB: #1 points off, #5 yds off, #13 points def, #9 yds def

2021
KC: #4 points off, #3 yds off, #8 points def, #27 yds def
Cin: #7 points off, #13 yds off, #17 points def, #18 yds def
SF: #13 points off, #7 yds off, #9 points def, #3 yds def
LAR: #7 points off, #9 yds off, #15 points def, #17 yds def

Average ranking
Points off: 5.3
Yards off: 6.4
Points def: 10.5
Yards def: 14.5

Number of top 5 ranked units
Points off: 12/20 (60.0%)
Yards off: 8/20 (40.0%)
Points def: 4/20 (20.0%)
Yards def: 5/20 (25.0%)

Super Bowl champ average ranking
Points off: 3.8
Yards off: 6.3
Points def: 6.5
Yards def: 12.0

Super Bowl champ top ranking (of the four teams in the CC games)
Points off: 0
Yards off: 0
Points def: 3
Yards def: 1

That last data set I need to explain a little more. I looked at the four teams in the conference championship games (we can't count this year because we're looking at SB winners, and obviously we aren't there yet with 2021). Of the four points offense rankings for the four finalists, which one had the highest ranking in that category, and then how many times did the team with the highest ranking (of the four teams) actually win the Super Bowl? So it's interesting that none of the teams with the highest points or yardage offense rankings (of the four remaining teams each year) won the Super Bowl, but three out of four times the team with the highest ranked point defense, and one team with the highest ranked yardage defense won the Super Bowl.

Seen another way, here's the rankings - AMONG THE FOUR REMAINING TEAMS - of the SB winners:

2017 (Phi): 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd = avg off rank: 5.0; avg def rank: 4.0
2018 (NE): 3rd, 3rd, 1st, 3rd = avg off rank: 4.5; avg def rank: 14.0
2019 (KC): 2nd, 2nd, 1st, 2nd = avg off rank: 5.5; avg def rank: 12.0
2020 (TB): 3rd, 4th, 1st, 1st = avg off rank: 5.0; avg def rank: 7.0

So from this small sample, is it more important to have a great offense or a great defense in the modern NFL?
 

BaseballJones

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Patrick Mahomes in three AFC Championship games:

16-31, 295 yds, 3 td, 0 int
23-35, 294 yds, 3 td, 0 int
29-38, 325 yds, 3 td, 0 int
TOT: 68-104 (65.3%), 914 yds, 8.8 y/a, 9 td, 0 int, 122.0 rating

Mahomes in the Super Bowl is another story:

26-42, 286 yds, 2 td, 2 int
26-49, 270 yds, 0 td, 2 int
TOT: 52-91 (57.1%), 556 yds, 6.1 y/a, 2 td, 4 int, 64.2 rating

But we're not to the SB yet, and in the AFCCG, the dude absolutely shines. Expect more of that today.
 

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I'd like to see CIN win today (don't tell my transplanted relatives in KC), but I don't see any way KC doesn't win. The spread I have no idea on, but it feels like an easy KC win is in the cards today.
 

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Feel like this is going to be a tennis match where Cinci couldn't hold it's first serve
 

simplyeric

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One of the announcers said that if they had lost the challenge they would have had no more challenges in the game… is that a thing?