Al Horford: he gawn

[RedOctober3829]

Adam Himmelsbach says Al is talking to several teams tonight and will not make his decision until tomorrow or Tuesday.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2019/06/30/here-are-teams-interested-terry-rozier/4daK3prNsotJe5iuRtWMmK/story.html

 

[NomarsFool]

The only way I want to see them bring back Marcus Morris is if ANOTHER TEAM sends the Celtics an unprotected 1st round pick to do so

Can someone explain what the S&T with Rozier gives the Celtics right now? Did Charlotte send us some sort of compensation? We didn't sign Kemba as a S&T right?

 

[RedOctober3829]

B-Robb on 98.5 right now saying the conflicting reports about Al are the result of posturing by both teams and his agent. Says the silence is deafening. Now a very short list of teams with cap room he could go including Lakers, Clippers, and Sixers.

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

The only way I want to see them bring back Marcus Morris is if ANOTHER TEAM sends the Celtics an unprotected 1st round pick to do so

Can someone explain what the S&T with Rozier gives the Celtics right now? Did Charlotte send us some sort of compensation? We didn't sign Kemba as a S&T right?

Charlotte can't give Terry that contract without the S&T I don't think. May just be helping Terry out.

 

[mcpickl]

The only way I want to see them bring back Marcus Morris is if ANOTHER TEAM sends the Celtics an unprotected 1st round pick to do so

Can someone explain what the S&T with Rozier gives the Celtics right now? Did Charlotte send us some sort of compensation? We didn't sign Kemba as a S&T right?

It's all fluid right now, depending upon what happens in the next six days before contracts can become official.

Kemba will be coming here on a S&T though, just don't know if it's into cap space with an asset from Charlotte, or as an over the cap team with most likely one of Horford/Kyrie going out as a S&T.

I'd bet on the latter scenario.

 

[djbayko]

B-Robb on 98.5 right now saying the conflicting reports about Al are the result of posturing by both teams and his agent. Says the silence is deafening. Now a very short list of teams with cap room he could go including Lakers, Clippers, and Sixers.

So Celtics and Al want each other. The Nets know they have the Celtics over a barrel and are demanding a pretty penny in return. Horford is trying to help out the situation by saying he's discussing with other teams, making Danny's walk away threat believable. Sound about right?

 

[RedOctober3829]

So Celtics and Al want each other. The Nets know they have the Celtics over a barrel and are demanding a pretty penny in return. Horford is trying to help out Danny's situation by saying he's discussing with other teams. Sound about right?

Yeah it does.

 

[DJnVa]

B-Robb on 98.5 right now saying the conflicting reports about Al are the result of posturing by both teams and his agent. Says the silence is deafening. N

Is there posturing or silence?

 

[NomarsFool]

Can the Nets sign all 3 of those free agents without a sign & trade from Boston? It would seem that some sort of 3 way trade is helping all 3 teams.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

I wonder if Nets would rather have Al on BOS or PHI. That would be an interesting internal discussion.

 

[DJnVa]

I wonder if Nets would rather have Al on BOS or PHI. That would be an interesting internal discussion.

Only one might get them an asset...

 

[RedOctober3829]

Is there posturing or silence?

He was referring to reports saying C's were making all these moves to sign Horford then the Bulpett report among others that said Horford isn't coming back. He hasn't signed yet hence the silence.

 

[bankshot1]

So the speculation is the Nets are bending the Celts over the Brooklyn Bridge?

Who woulda thunk it.

 

[DeadlySplitter]

might have to give up the Memphis pick to make this happen

 

[bosockboy]

You walk at the Memphis pick. No way you lose that asset just for the right to pay Horford.

 

[bankshot1]

Karma can be a bitch

 

[mcpickl]

might have to give up the Memphis pick to make this happen

No shot.

 

[bankshot1]

I hope Memphis is off the table

 

[DJnVa]

might have to give up the Memphis pick to make this happen

I can't imagine that happens. They can get ours or the Bucks pick that we own next year.

Remember when the Irving trade was happening and there was a late hiccup? Didn't it end up being an extra 2nd or something. I'm imagining this is the same type of thing.

 

[luckiestman]

I would give the Bucks and our own with protections but not the Mem pick.

 

[Jimbodandy]

I can't imagine that happens. They can get ours or the Bucks pick that we own next year.

Remember when the Irving trade was happening and there was a late hiccup? Didn't it end up being an extra 2nd or something. I'm imagining this is the same type of thing.

Yeah. Ours with some protection or Milwaukee. Or maybe a protected future.

 

[Cellar-Door]

I don't buy the idea that Al necessarily wants to come back. It sure seems like he opted out, thought he had an offer he liked, it fell apart (or the guy he thought was going to go to LAC with him backed out) and now he's stuck waiting to see where the money is, with the door to Boston that he had closed maybe cracking open a bit as other options come off the board. Wouldn't be surprised if he waits to see what happens with Kawhi and Jimmy. LAC w/ Kawhi might be his preference, but that takes Kawhi deciding.

Edit- or he's waiting to see if Jimmy forces a S&T, and if not he's going to PHI who will then have space for him

 

[DJnVa]

Yeah. Ours with some protection or Milwaukee. Or maybe a protected future.

Or Ainge is gonna crush them again. You get Memphis, we get 3 future #1s--in like 2024, 2025, and 2026. lol

 

[Red Averages]

I don't buy the idea that Al necessarily wants to come back. It sure seems like he opted out, thought he had an offer he liked, it fell apart (or the guy he thought was going to go to LAC with him backed out) and now he's stuck waiting to see where the money is, with the door to Boston that he had closed maybe cracking open a bit as other options come off the board. Wouldn't be surprised if he waits to see what happens with Kawhi and Jimmy. LAC w/ Kawhi might be his preference, but that takes Kawhi deciding.

Link? That’s a lot of speculation without evidence.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Jimmy Butler S&T to Miami. That severely affects them trying to get Horford.

 

[JCizzle]

I don't buy the idea that Al necessarily wants to come back. It sure seems like he opted out, thought he had an offer he liked, it fell apart (or the guy he thought was going to go to LAC with him backed out) and now he's stuck waiting to see where the money is, with the door to Boston that he had closed maybe cracking open a bit as other options come off the board. Wouldn't be surprised if he waits to see what happens with Kawhi and Jimmy. LAC w/ Kawhi might be his preference, but that takes Kawhi deciding.

Edit- or he's waiting to see if Jimmy forces a S&T, and if not he's going to PHI who will then have space for him

...and there we go.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Link? That’s a lot of speculation without evidence.

Of course it's speculation, this is all speculation, there hasn't been a single thing on Al except that he turned down a 30M option, and many m,any reporters said they heard he had a 4/112 offer out there. I'm just pointing out that those things lead more to him wanting to be somewhere else than the wishcasting in this thread that he is somehow trying to reduce the Nets leverage so he can come back to Boston. I'm making guesses based on what little we know. He doesn't opt out and decide to take meetings if his first option was coming back.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Horford signing a 4 year, $109 million deal with Philly per Woj

 

[Jeff Van GULLY]

Horford to Philly

 

[amfox1]

Ouch

 

[DannyDarwinism]

Welp

 

[DJnVa]

Horford to Philly

They're not going to be fun to guard with our current roster.

 

[SoFloSoxFan]

Anticlimactic

 

[ifmanis5]

Welp..
Five-time All-Star F/C Al Horford has agreed to a four-year, $109M deal with the Philadelphia 76ers, agent Jason Glushon tells ESPN.

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Horford signing a 4 year, $109 million deal with Philly per Woj

That's almost Rozier money.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

NM. Not important now

 

[Cellar-Door]

Horford to Philly, also got Josh Richardson in the MIA deal, PHI is stacked

 

[luckiestman]

cant wait til we beat Philly in 5

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Will be interesting if the C’s BAFO to Horford gets out. Perhaps they wouldn’t go four years?

 

[DJnVa]

Horford to Philly, also got Josh Richardson in the MIA deal, PHI is stacked

Horford/Richardson is better than Butler/Reddick?

 

[mcpickl]

Ooooooooof

That's painful.

 

[Nator]

Damn. That sucks that he landed in Philadelphia, but that's one oddly constructed team at the moment.

 

[TripleOT]

If AL ever convinces Embiid how to play and conduct himself the right way, look out Eastern Conference.

The S and T maneuvering is for the Cs to have $10 million to sign a big. It’s worth a protected Bucks pick.

 

[Red Averages]

Damn

 

[ifmanis5]

Woj:
The Horford contract has $97M guaranteed and $12M in bonuses tied to championships, league sources tell ESPN.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Damn. That sucks that he landed in Philadelphia, but that's one oddly constructed team at the moment.

I guess, honestly it looks really well constructed, a terrific defensive starting 5, an offense of Simmons/Embiid and 3 shooters. Health will be an issue and maybe depth, but that starting 5 is ridiculous

 

[prizminferno]

Screw off, Al

 

[The Social Chair]

If AL ever convinces Embiid how to play and conduct himself the right way, look out Eastern Conference.

The S and T maneuvering is for the Cs to have $10 million to sign a big. It’s worth a protected Bucks pick.

Enes Kanter here we come!

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Damn. That sucks that he landed in Philadelphia, but that's one oddly constructed team at the moment.

Too bad for them they apparently won’t put Simmons on the table.

 

[Tony C]

Horford/Richardson is better than Butler/Reddick?

I think so, yes. Horford > Butler (but arguable) and Richardson > Reddick.