Andre Johnson Signs with Colts

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While I think Johnson would suddenly look 2 years younger in the Patriots offense, just doesn't seem the type of need the Patriots can afford to spend $$$ on. I would much rather they use that money on Revis, and then cut Amendola and then scoop up a buy low type candidate who may be willing to take a small check for the chance to rebuild himself....I'm thinking a Greg Little type, a 2 yr/2 mill type deal...
 

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bsj said:
While I think Johnson would suddenly look 2 years younger in the Patriots offense, just doesn't seem the type of need the Patriots can afford to spend $$$ on. I would much rather they use that money on Revis, and then cut Amendola and then scoop up a buy low type candidate who may be willing to take a small check for the chance to rebuild himself....I'm thinking a Greg Little type, a 2 yr/2 mill type deal...
Pass on Little. Statues have better hands then him. Get Revis done then worry about Andre. I don't think Brady would be pissed about getting him however.
 

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If reports of Johnson needing $6m+ to sign (guesses, not anything from his camp), then file it under the Fitzgerald Circular File. 
 
If it's anywhere in the $4m~ range, then it gets really interesting. 
 

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SeoulSoxFan said:
If reports of Johnson needing $6m+ to sign (guesses, not anything from his camp), then file it under the Fitzgerald Circular File. 
 
If it's anywhere in the $4m~ range, then it gets really interesting. 
 
Wouldn't pretty much any team be interested in him at that price?  I mean, I would LOVE for the Seahawks to get him at that price, but I doubt he goes there because Seattle isn't a big passing offense.
 

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Would Hartline come cheaper than Amendola? He hasn't had a QB throwing to him in Miami.
 

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WR Andre Johnson on what future team he prefers to play for: "Wherever I go, I hope I can play with a great quarterback. I don't know. I'm just going to wait and see what happens. A lot of these teams want young players; so we'll just see what happens. I am open to visiting teams."
 
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sl4qoi
 
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In PFF's Yards-per-route-run statistic, he's well down the overall leaderboard, and wasn't even the #1 on the Texans this past year (that was DeAndre Hopkins, at 2.27, good for #11)
 
So, clearly used to being a featured #1 receiver in the Randy Moss tradition, except Moss was 30 when he came here.  And is, based on a cursory glance, probably well past his prime.  I'm not sure how he'd be an upgrade from Amendola or LaFell at this point, since his rep (and thus price) probably exceeds production.  Seems like an unlikely target.
 
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Turns 34 in July.  Pro bowl in 2012 (deserved), and 2013 (mostly on rep / counting stats).
 
9th on the NFL leaderboard in career receptions, 12th in receiving yards, 4th in yards/game.  Among active players, behind only Reggie Wayne in the 1st two metrics, and behind Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, and AJ Green in the yards/game metric.
 
In PFF's Yards-per-route-run statistic, he's well down the overall leaderboard, and wasn't even the #1 on the Texans this past year (that was DeAndre Hopkins, at 2.27, good for #11)
 
So, clearly used to being a featured #1 receiver in the Randy Moss tradition, except Moss was 30 when he came here.  And is, based on a cursory glance, probably well past his prime.  I'm not sure how he'd be an upgrade from Amendola or LaFell at this point, since his rep (and thus price) probably exceeds production.  Seems like an unlikely target.
That's older that Ocho Cinco was when he arrived here. I am sensing this is not gonna happen.  I don't want him taking plays from Lafell, but there really isn't any other ready big WR here. Could be a good tutor for Tyms if it's really short money.  Would probably need to flip Boyce to make room though.
 

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One thing that might prevent a Johnson signing from being Ochocinco 2.0 is presumably, Bill O'Brien's offensive playbook is similar enough to the Patriots', making the transition easier.
 

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For those advocating signing Johnson, would you want him to replace LaFell on the outside as a starting WR? I guess I could see a role for him in the spread, with a lineup of LaFell-Edelman-Gronk-Vereen-Johnson, and that would probably be an upgrade over Amendola, but I think I would rather have LaFell as my starter on the outside given what he showed this year, and his age (turns 29 in November). LaFell could give us another 3 or so good years on the outside.
 

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tims4wins said:
For those advocating signing Johnson, would you want him to replace LaFell on the outside as a starting WR? I guess I could see a role for him in the spread, with a lineup of LaFell-Edelman-Gronk-Vereen-Johnson, and that would probably be an upgrade over Amendola, but I think I would rather have LaFell as my starter on the outside given what he showed this year, and his age (turns 29 in November). LaFell could give us another 3 or so good years on the outside.
I agree, there's no sense in replacing LaFell on the outside. I imagine they'd run more 11 personnel with LaFell and Johnson out wide and Edelman in the slot. Or maybe they see Johnson as LaFell insurance.

Or maybe we all just really like talking about Andre Johnson and he ends up on the Titans or something.
 

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If he's really on Irsay's private jet, can't we track it like we did with Henry's plane a while back?
 
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John McClain?  Doesn't he have any Grubers to dispatch?
 

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Would not surprise me if Antrel Rolle and maybe even Vince would go there.  Make it a U reunion of sorts.
 
 
Vince should take a visit just to meet Grigson.
 
And punch him in the face.
 
 

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If he's really on Irsay's private jet, can't we track it like we did with Henry's plane a while back?
 
It's easier when the jet flies in a straight line.
 

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Yes, but the Revis situation reminds us that the devil is in the details.  Structuring, the amount of the guaranties, the nature of the guaranties, etc.  It could be that it functionally a cheaper deal than 3/$21 mm.   
 

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I don't get Indy. Defense was the big weakness for them last year, but that's not where they are putting their money.