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I don't know if its been mentioned but I'm noticing a significant reduction in lag time with the camera since the upgrade. Nice unexpected benefit.
 

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I agree on that, but the rounded corners and boring grey backdrops are not good design choices from the perspective of the modernist look they're going for.
Agreed. In fact, I'll go further, they are AWFUL. It looks like Sesame Steet hacked my iPhone.
 

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I have the 4s and downloaded the new OS. I've turned off all settings that would cause battery drain (location services, motion, etc) and it's still killing my battery. Starting to think the battery is shot overall in the phone and I may just need to upgrade or go to the new Galaxy phone. Tired of carrying around a battery charger.
 

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I still have an iPhone 4, and will probably be upgrading to the 5S soon. Anyway, I haven't seen anyone else mention this here or else where, but I feel like my typing accuracy has really improved with the new OS. Has anyone else noticed this? Since I doubt that my dexterity has improved, and I'm sure my fingers aren't getting any smaller, is this something that Apple worked on? Or maybe the design just leads to more accurate pecking?
 

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I have a 4, wife has a 4S and my son has a 5S. Wow, the camera is great on the 5S and it screams, it never hangs. The 5S gets hot if you play Infinity Blade for awhile.
 

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Funny you mention that, as I've experienced exactly the opposite. I repeatedly need autocorrect and I routinely hit period instead of space.


I think your issue has nothing to do with autocorrect, but the new combined URL and search bar in Safari. Because you need to able to type in full phrases as well as URLs, some of the real estate normally allocated to the space bar has been ceded to the period. It's incredibly annoying, especially for those who are right-handed, but for now it's my only issue with iOS 7.
 

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I just put this on the iPad. Please tell me I can make that zoom in/out thing go away when closing and opening apps. I turned on reduce motion and it still does thi.
 

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Sorry, not yet.

You're not alone, though. Lots of complaints around the internet about this, the "tumbling" icons, etc.

Maybe Apple will augment the motion controls, just don't hold your breath b/c it might not happen quickly.
Between that and the keyboard and Safari menu / address area being so light I'm not a huge fan at the moment. I really want the keyboard and Safari stuff darker - once you add the bookmark bar the top area is massive and your eye goes right to it thanks to the light color.
 

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One thing I really dislike is that in Safari, the bottom nav (with bookmarks, new tab button, etc.) is no longer persistent.  It's hidden unless you're clicking on the edges of the interface.  This isn't bad by itself (though it means an extra click to open a bookmark, etc.) but it led to a design decision that I find very wrong: even though you can't see it, there is an invisible bottom target area where the bottom bar used to be - tapping anywhere at the bottom of a web page brings up the hidden bar.  This is bad usability; I can see a link, but if I tap it, something unexpected happens (the link doesn't open, but the interface does).  It feels wrong and it's training people to expect inconsistent behavior when tapping, which leads to that vague, unsettling feeling that's the bane of UI usability.  
 

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The going back/forth by swiping the edge of the screen in Safari is a nice touch but I always swipe the end on my iPad so I'll have to relearn where to swipe now. That's my so far biggest learning curve.
 

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One thing I really dislike is that in Safari, the bottom nav (with bookmarks, new tab button, etc.) is no longer persistent.  It's hidden unless you're clicking on the edges of the interface.  This isn't bad by itself (though it means an extra click to open a bookmark, etc.) but it led to a design decision that I find very wrong: even though you can't see it, there is an invisible bottom target area where the bottom bar used to be - tapping anywhere at the bottom of a web page brings up the hidden bar.  This is bad usability; I can see a link, but if I tap it, something unexpected happens (the link doesn't open, but the interface does).  It feels wrong and it's training people to expect inconsistent behavior when tapping, which leads to that vague, unsettling feeling that's the bane of UI usability.  
 
Personally I really like this. I hated that stuff always eating up screen real estate.
 
It might help you to learn that scrolling up on a web page brings up the bottom controls too.
 

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Apparently a significant number of iPhone 5s units are a few degrees off in gyroscope/accelerometer calibration. Mine appears to be about 3 degrees off of level. I made a genius appointment for Sunday to hopefully get it exchanged for a new one. It's not a huge deal but for any kind of games or apps that use the accelerometer/gyroscope it definitely means imprecise results. 
 

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Apparently a significant number of iPhone 5s units are a few degrees off in gyroscope/accelerometer calibration. Mine appears to be about 3 degrees off of level. I made a genius appointment for Sunday to hopefully get it exchanged for a new one. It's not a huge deal but for any kind of games or apps that use the accelerometer/gyroscope it definitely means imprecise results. 
How do you test this?
 

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The one thing that I dislike about iOS7 is that I can no longer sync my phone with my computer. This has been going on for about a month now and today they released an update that was supposed to fix it. It hasn't. All I get an infinite "Waiting for changes to be applied". 
 
I want to throw my phone into a river. 
 

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The iMessage glitch where you can't send messages is annoying but shit happens and this will get fixed.

This, however, pisses me off:

We are aware of an issue that affects a fraction of a percent of our iMessage users, and we will have a fix available in an upcoming software update,” Apple said in a statement.


Don't talk to shareholders in statements to the customers. I don't fucking care that most people aren't experiencing this. I am and it's important to me that you fix it.
 

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Van Everyman said:
The iMessage glitch where you can't send messages is annoying but shit happens and this will get fixed.

This, however, pisses me off:



Don't talk to shareholders in statements to the customers. I don't fucking care that most people aren't experiencing this. I am and it's important to me that you fix it.
Anecdotally, half the people I know with a 5 that upgraded to ios7 are having this problem. Including me.
 

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Anecdotally, half the people I know with a 5 that upgraded to ios7 are having this problem. Including me.
 
And me. But I have a 4S. Glad to know I'm not the only one.
 

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My wife had the iMessage problem on her iPad, but turning it off for 5 minutes and turning it back on took care of it.  If that doesn't work, here's another solution some people have used.
 
 
 
Though, in some cases, it was necessary to also refresh device network settings by way of the Settings > General menu and disabling and re-enabling the iMessage app in Settings > Messages.
 

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B H Kim said:
My wife had the iMessage problem on her iPad, but turning it off for 5 minutes and turning it back on took care of it.  If that doesn't work, here's another solution some people have used.
 
 
I had the iMessage problem, as well. Problem was, the message failure notice didn't occur until the day after +.
 
The solution posted by BH Kim appears to work for now.
 

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Yep, I'm having the same issue now as well. The disabling and re-enabling of iMessage hasn't worked. Of course, to add insult to injury, I've also got a non-functional power button too. Started working sporadically about a month ago, and now just doesn't work at all. My first chance to get to an Apple store will be today, so I'll seen at they have to say about that, as I understand that it's a known problem for a small percentage of 5's as well.
 

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derekson said:
 
Personally I really like this. I hated that stuff always eating up screen real estate.
 
It might help you to learn that scrolling up on a web page brings up the bottom controls too.
My issue isn't with the real estate, but with the interface inconsistency. Tapping on a link should always open a link. Also, scrolling up only brings up the bottom bar if you scroll all the way to the top of the page.
 

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FWIW, the Apple store in Salem, NH took a look at my 5, and despite the fact that I was (15 days) out of warranty, replaced it with no questions asked. The dead power button is apparently a well known issue.
 
On my "new" device, iMessage seems to be working fine right now.
 

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Yeah, I know the way to get it to work, I just don't like it. And scrolling up does not always make it appear; it's contextual. Don't mean to blow this out of proportion - it's a minor thing in the grand scheme.
 

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The page you're viewing is still there, it's just overlaid with the smartsearch bar UI or whatever they call it. You can still search the page by typing into the address bar and scrolling to the "search for X on this page" option at the bottom.
 

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derekson said:
The page you're viewing is still there, it's just overlaid with the smartsearch bar UI or whatever they call it. You can still search the page by typing into the address bar and scrolling to the "search for X on this page" option at the bottom.
Thank you.
 

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The iMessage glitch where you can't send messages is annoying but shit happens and this will get fixed.
That's not the only problem with iMessage. The service is a joke, it has so many nice features and then shits all over them by losing messages and dredging up months-old messages as "new" just for the hell of it.

(That problem is over a year old.)
 

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I was jus down for almost two days because there was some remnant of beta 6 left somewhere and a forced firmware update wasn't 'compatible'.

I ended up getting lucky and having it take after the 25th time trying (I would try everytime I walked by my machine, an swear 15 seconds later)
 

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Any hope of this iMessage fix coming soon as opposed to six months from now? This has rendered my phone barely useable. 
 

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Any hope of this iMessage fix coming soon as opposed to six months from now? This has rendered my phone barely useable. 
I've read (note: I have not upgraded due to this issue) that if you turn iMessage off, manually restart your phone, then turn iMessage back on it often works again.
 

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I've read (note: I have not upgraded due to this issue) that if you turn iMessage off, manually restart your phone, then turn iMessage back on it often works again.
Yeah, this worked the first time, but not the 2nd time. I've just turned off iMessage and am running up text message fees for nwo.
 

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I haven't had any iMessage related issues.
 
But has anyone else with a 5S had reboot issues? About 2-4 times a day my phone will crash, it won't go in to a full restart, but the black screen with the Apple logo will come up for about 20 seconds and then bring me back to the springboard/homescreen. It's becoming somewhat annoying and makes me wonder if I'm having some sort of hardware issue with my iPhone, seeing as though I've had every iPhone since the 3G and haven't experienced anything like this.
 

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My iOS 7 battery life was great on my 4S, except for the past few days something seems to be slaughtering the damn thing. Down to 20% and haven't even had lunch yet. Did all the basic stuff (no bluetooth, no location, low brightness, etc.), seems to not be helping. Is there a 7.0.2 battery bug or something?
 

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The exact thing happened to me. 4S and thought iOS7 actually improved my battery life. Now I can't make it through a day without a charge. Same troubleshooting steps- turned everything off. I have yet to find route cause, but you aren't alone.
 

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The exact thing happened to me. 4S and thought iOS7 actually improved my battery life. Now I can't make it through a day without a charge. Same troubleshooting steps- turned everything off. I have yet to find route cause, but you aren't alone.
 
So far a full power off/on reset seems to have helped, in true IT Crowd fashion.
 

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One week since the update, and I can safely say that I can't stand iOS7.  Sucks battery life, looks bad, has screwed up functionality of apps., including Skype, and the list goes on.
 
Above all, I resent the fact that Apple has made my iPhone look like a friggin' Happy Meal.
 

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One week since the update, and I can safely say that I can't stand iOS7.  Sucks battery life, looks bad, has screwed up functionality of apps., including Skype, and the list goes on.
 
Above all, I resent the fact that Apple has made my iPhone look like a friggin' Happy Meal.
 
Play with the wallpapers a lot. Even better, find an app with wallpapers and try a ton. The new icon theme and dock is very particular and a lot of stuff either clash or accentuate it - which is bad if you don't like it.
 
So far, I don't like the new dock for that reason. I don't like that you can't swipe between songs on the music app on the ipad. It drives me bonkers actually, because it makes driving that much more dangerous. I do like itunes radio. I do like the new control center; it adds new functionality well. I do like the frosted effect. I like the new theme for safari on ipad, although the bookmark button being on the right threw me a bit off in the beginning and being left feels more intuitive.
 
Other than that, I don't see that much difference.
 
Last but not least, I went on an app store and I took a look at the new iphones. I think the c series is hideous. The colors just don't work for me at all. The new gold iphone is subdued, it's almost tough to tell it apart from the white/silver one. It's not gaudy. I still think that the 4s looks better than what followed it.