Are NFL refs getting input from NY while reffing games?

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The Edward Jones Dome was rocking Sunday when St. Louis Rams fans sawBradley Marquez recover an unexpected onside kick at the start of overtime against the Seattle Seahawks. They groaned when referee Jeff Triplette announced a rekick, citing an invalid fair catch, and cheered again when Triplette reversed the call and gave the Rams possession at the Seahawks' 49-yard line.
What happened in the moments between Triplette's announcements? The play was not eligible for replay review. Did a member of his crew step forward and insist he saw something different, as often happens during a game? Or did Triplette receive a clandestine correction via the wireless headset all NFL officials now wear?
Two former officials who now work in television stepped forward this week to endorse the latter theory, which if true would run counter to NFL protocol but in the end provide a valuable tool to ensure accurate calls. Former vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said on Fox Radio that "somebody got into Jeff Triplette's ear," and former NFL officiating supervisor and current ESPN analyst Jim Daopoulos said via telephone: "I think Mike hit the nail on the head there."
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http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/179423/whispering-in-the-ear-of-nfl-referees
 
 

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I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.
 
When the Pats are accused of breaking into the line and posing as NFL personnel you'll have your answer.
 

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If true, that's not a good thing.  There should be actual protocols that are followed that protect the integrity of the process and in turn the integrity of the game.  If they see correctable mistakes getting made they should think about changing the process.  There are a thousand non-reviewable bad or missed calls made every week so why is that one reversed?  I do realize the NFL has a habit of inventing rules on the fly based on whim and what's on TV right now.
 

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There's already a mechanism for the replay official to speak to the referee. In this case, the replay official might not have known the play was not reviewable, and while Triplette did, he obviously knew the replay official saw something, and so got his team together to see if one of them did too. Or, the replay official might have buzzed Triplette and said "hey, it's not a reviewable call, but you might want to make sure no one on the crew saw something different." Either way, I don't have a problem with it -- hell, it should be part of the procedure for the replay official to buzz the referee when an obvious error is made on an unreviewable play, so at least the ref can convene a conference and see if anyone saw something different.
 
Having the league office play that role feels a bit different to me, but if the replay official had the express mandate to buzz the referee in those situations, New York would have no reason to step in.
 

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Belichick asks every year to just make everything challengeable. Naturally, the best idea is to say no and then do it anyway from NFL HQ in NYC.
 

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The league home office has real-time input on official stats rulings. For example the stats crew may decide #58 got a sack only to have the home office communicate via a text that they believe #92 should be credited instead. It's still the stats crews call, but the league can change it to whatever they want over the next few days.

Not nearly as important as impacting referee decisions on the field, but from an oversight perspective they're all over everything. Wouldn't be surprised if this were true. And not sure how I'd feel about it except to say transparency would be good if they've made this leap.
 

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I am picturing a focus group sitting around a bank of HDTV's playing NFL games while a marketing major in an over-sized suit asks them how that last call made them feel.
 

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Clearly, anything that makes the calls more accurate is good. Clearly, anything done beyond the standard protocol regarding the officiating is bad and will naturally (perhaps with, though likely without, good reason) cause people to wonder about fairness.
 
Out-of-left-field-sounding-totally-crazy-who-could-ever-think-of-such-an-idea idea: hey NFL, how about trying to show at least a facade of some openness and honesty?
 

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If true, that's not a good thing.  There should be actual protocols that are followed that protect the integrity of the process and in turn the integrity of the game.  If they see correctable mistakes getting made they should think about changing the process.  There are a thousand non-reviewable bad or missed calls made every week so why is that one reversed?  I do realize the NFL has a habit of inventing rules on the fly based on whim and what's on TV right now.
 
This is the NFL you're talking about here, which stands for "If you insist on protocols, you'll be here Not For Long"
 

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This is obviously a good thing.  The League office has a long and blemish free history of protecting the integrity of the game and staying neutral regarding game day activities.
 

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Remember the buzzer that some NYY fans thought was in the pocket of one of theumpires during 2004 ALCS Game 6? The one that alerted the officials that Bellhorn's HR was actually a HR instead of an RBI double? Remember how people here mocked those NYY fans for being upset that the umpires might have gotten the call right on account of that buzzer?
 

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[QUOTE="Hriniak]
Remember the buzzer that some NYY fans thought was in the pocket of one of theumpires during 2004 ALCS Game 6? The one that alerted the officials that Bellhorn's HR was actually a HR instead of an RBI double? Remember how people here mocked those NYY fans for being upset that the umpires might have gotten the call right on account of that buzzer?
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Remember how there wasn't evidence that the MLB league office was biased against the Yankees?
 

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HriniakPosterChild said:
Remember the buzzer that some NYY fans thought was in the pocket of one of theumpires during 2004 ALCS Game 6? The one that alerted the officials that Bellhorn's HR was actually a HR instead of an RBI double? Remember how people here mocked those NYY fans for being upset that the umpires might have gotten the call right on account of that buzzer?
 
 
I don't remember that at all, but I was euphoric and may have hyperventilated and passed out.