BB's next job (a.k.a. Steve Belichick's next next job)

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If it does happen it will be weird and cool for me. I live about 7 miles from Kenan Stadium. I havent been much impressed by college football compared to the NFL in my life and even less impressed by UNC football from top to bottom in the near 20 years I have lived down here. They hire BB I will buy 4 season tickets tomorrow and the tailgating will begin next summer :)
 

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Honestly if Bill doesn't care about the NFL wins record I could see him being interested in college. He lets assistants handle recruiting, along with a GM, he doesn't mind schmoozing rich guys for the money, and somebody else is "required" to handle NIL anyway... he likes to coach, and college is kind of easy mode compared to the NFL on that front.

Interesting thing will be... how many guys want to go there? He's a legend so he'll get some of the Coach Prime famous bump... and also... if you are a smart DB or LB coming out of HS... who would you rather have coach you than BB? I think people underestimate the pull of former NFL coaches in recruiting. Herm Edwards failed at ASU for various reasons.... but his recruiting classes were great.
 

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I believe it will be announced today. Belichick to UNC. He does go on McAfee at 1:10 pm. Let's hope he has a UNC hoodie on. :)
 
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If it does happen it will be weird and cool for me. I live about 7 miles from Kenan Stadium. I havent been much impressed by college football compared to the NFL in my life and even less impressed by UNC football from top to bottom in the near 20 years I have lived down here. They hire BB I will buy 4 season tickets tomorrow and the tailgating will begin next summer :)
It's great going to the baseball games with my oldest daughter. Her dorm was across the street from the field during the spring semester and they had some great players to watch. Football has been underwhelming but we are buying season tickets if Bill comes too.
 

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Imagine Bill coaching at the Fenway Park Beans and Frank bowl....... :D I cannot believe a 70+ year old is willing to dip his toes into the mess that is college athletics.
 

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Hopefully Belichick can find the time to record a nice video message for Andy Reid when he gets the win record.
 

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Honestly if Bill doesn't care about the NFL wins record I could see him being interested in college. He lets assistants handle recruiting, along with a GM, he doesn't mind schmoozing rich guys for the money, and somebody else is "required" to handle NIL anyway... he likes to coach, and college is kind of easy mode compared to the NFL on that front.

Interesting thing will be... how many guys want to go there? He's a legend so he'll get some of the Coach Prime famous bump... and also... if you are a smart DB or LB coming out of HS... who would you rather have coach you than BB? I think people underestimate the pull of former NFL coaches in recruiting. Herm Edwards failed at ASU for various reasons.... but his recruiting classes were great.
It's going to be hilarious when the UNC lacrosse coach quits because BB has poached all his best players.
 

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McAfee led off with Bill by asking about how college football has become more like the NFL in terms of talent acquisition.

Bill is now explaining his background with college football, including his dad’s tenure as a scout/coach with UNC (I didn’t know that). He then noted that he has had several discussions with the UNC Chancellor.

Loooootta smoke here.
 

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Didn’t answer the question about meeting with UNC’s chancellor for five hours. Sounds like the negotiations w UNC are real and ongoing
 

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Didn’t answer the question about meeting with UNC’s chancellor for five hours. Sounds like the negotiations w UNC are real and ongoing
It was Chancellor Roberts mentioned but Bubba Cunningham (Athletic Director) is involved too.
 

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It's great going to the baseball games with my oldest daughter. Her dorm was across the street from the field during the spring semester and they had some great players to watch. Football has been underwhelming but we are buying season tickets if Bill comes too.
If you want to meet up for a beer at any point let me know. I live over by Southpoint and happy to meet you anywhere in CH or Durham or thereabouts.
 

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If you want to meet up for a beer at any point let me know. I live over by Southpoint and happy to meet you anywhere in CH or Durham or thereabouts.
They serve beers at baseball games too :). I'm in Apex but will DM you
 

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This whole interview—“Coach, tell us what you would do if you ran a college program?”—is wild.
Google him, he wins.

I just moved to SC and would absolutely drive up for a game or two. Coach is in the Larry/Tommy/Pedro heroes for me.

Get the proper structure around him to recruit/NIL stuff and I think he would be a great hire for a few years.

I think Tulane's coach just said he wasn't interested which makes me think this might happen.
 

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I read somewhere earlier today that Bill was "surprised" that none of the 3 NFL teams who already fired their coaches have reached out to him. I'm wondering if this UNC interest is because Bill's getting signals that the NFL has moved on from him?
 

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The strikes me as the ultimate BB petty/FU if you won’t hire me, I’m going to college and you’ll regret not hiring me. Otherwise, I have no idea why he would coach UNC.
 

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I read somewhere earlier today that Bill was "surprised" that none of the 3 NFL teams who already fired their coaches have reached out to him. I'm wondering if this UNC interest is because Bill's getting signals that the NFL has moved on from him?
That’s 100% what I believe this is. Remember when people were speculating the Pats would trade him for a 1st Round Pick? Ha.

I don’t love Mayo but the Pats were right to move on.
 

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The strikes me as the ultimate BB petty/FU if you won’t hire me, I’m going to college and you’ll regret not hiring me. Otherwise, I have no idea why he would coach UNC.
He wants to coach and doesn’t have any better options? I think Bill is on the wrong side of this ‘FU’.
 

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That’s 100% what I believe this is. Remember when people were speculating the Pats would trade him for a 1st Round Pick? Ha.

I don’t love Mayo but the Pats were right to move on.
It seems kinda crazy to me. It's hard for me to believe that no NFL franchise would want to have BB coach. But I also don't know what his expectations are in terms of roster management. And it's possible the list of teams where a 72 year old is the ideal candidate given that team's current proximity to title contention is quite small.

Also worth noting that the list of septuagenarians that have entered/returned to the college game and been successful is also quite small. And that's a list that predates the current NIL chaos.
 

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That’s 100% what I believe this is. Remember when people were speculating the Pats would trade him for a 1st Round Pick? Ha.

I don’t love Mayo but the Pats were right to move on.
Right. Because none of the teams in the NFL could use BB over the next 3-5 years.
 

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So why has no one hired him? It’s been covered a million times, but the BB full package of Coach and GM isn’t something any team wants.
Let’s not act like these teams consistently function in a way that promotes the team’s interest. Atlanta last January was a classic example of this, with the existing power structure protecting itself. Few coaches last longer than a 3-5 year cycle anyways, and the idea Raheem Morris is a preferable choice to Bill Belichick over that timeline is so laughable that it can only be explained by the aforementioned politics as well as the possibility that owners actually think they’ll find the next Sean McVay (or, ironically, 99-00 Belichick) to coach them for 15-20 years.
 

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Let’s not act like these teams consistently function in a way that promotes the team’s interest. Atlanta last January was a classic example of this, with the existing power structure protecting itself. Few coaches last longer than a 3-5 year cycle anyways, and the idea Raheem Morris is a preferable choice to Bill Belichick over that timeline is so laughable that it can only be explained by the aforementioned politics as well as the possibility that owners actually think they’ll find the next Sean McVay (or, ironically, 99-00 Belichick) to coach them for 15-20 years.
Bill is going to be 73 when the 2025 season kicks off. That’s likely a deterrent to hiring him. Unless a team thinks he’s the guy who can get them a title in the next couple years, I can see why they may not be interested.
 

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Right. Because none of the teams in the NFL could use BB over the next 3-5 years.
I think very few if any teams are both A) well enough positioned roster-wise to win that they could hire a 73 year old and be satisfied if he only gave them about 2 years; B) held back by their current regime in a way that would make giving Bill full control (and he'd need it) enticing. Maybe the Bengals or the Cowboys? I wouldn't hire him to start a rebuild at 73 and plenty of other contenders are or should be happy with their current staffs.
 

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I thought BB said he didn't want / need full control and was open to working with a GM?

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if BB is on some type of blacklist. He's pissed a lot of people off over the years, and I don't think for a second that Kraft is done stabbing daggers in his back either.
 

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I'm not sure why people think it's weird Bill would actually WANT to try coaching in college... he loves to coach, and despite the whining of the losers about NIL... college coaching is still WAY more control for the coach than pro coaching, even a coach/GM (which I don't think Bill expects to get anymore). College football coaches are mini-Gods in their towns if they are good... and Bill is a better football coach than just about anybody alive. Now, if a pro job he wants comes along... sure, but I also don't think Bill is just going to jump on any situation (I can't see him in JAX if Balke doesn't get fired for example)... I think the Atlanta process last year soured him a bit on the idea of being conciliatory... I get the feeling he said, "yeah I don't need to be the GM" there, and the McKay/Fontenot pairing still campaigned hard against him. Bill will give up GM control I would guess if he likes the situation and he likes the GM (say Dimitroff or Pioli, or Quinn, or one of Licht's guys from TB) but otherwise I think he might just say "meh, I'm gonna go be in charge somewhere I get to face 7-10 coaches who are wildly overmatched every year.
 
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After another Sean McDermott playcalling brainfart at a critical moment yesterday, Buffalo owner Terry Pagula would be justified in wondering if Belichick might be the missing piece needed to finally put the Bills over the top. Just pay the GOAT whatever it would take to give up his desire for total control and let him focus on fortifying the defense to pair with Josh Allen's offensive talents. Maybe convince Brian Daboll to come back as OC if he gets canned in New York.
 

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I’m sure several could. But so far none of them seem particularly interested in Bill. And he’s apparently surprised by that.
Bill has burned multiple bridges with the Jets. Panthers seem like a bad fit. And maybe the Bears are trying not to undermine Brown right off the bat.

And I have no idea why Jerry Jones likes McCarthy, but I have zero rooting interest in the Cowboys, so I could give a fuck.

Would Bill still generate interest in the offseason? Probably. But he knows the clock is ticking, and so he may be thinking that a bird in the hand….
 

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I think very few if any teams are both A) well enough positioned roster-wise to win that they could hire a 73 year old and be satisfied if he only gave them about 2 years; B) held back by their current regime in a way that would make giving Bill full control (and he'd need it) enticing. Maybe the Bengals or the Cowboys? I wouldn't hire him to start a rebuild at 73 and plenty of other contenders are or should be happy with their current staffs.
I'm not sure about this. I think you could very easily spin that a few years with BB re-building your infrastructure is a better use of the first 2-3 years of a rebuild than anything the Giants, Raiders, Browns, Colts, Jags, Titans, Saints, or Panthers are doing. He may or may not be the best drafter, but he knows how to build an NFL program from the inside out.

And that says nothing about teams you mentioned (Cowboys, Bengals), a Bears team supposedly with a franchise QB, or a Bills team unable to get over the hump.

That's, like 40% of the league.
 

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After another Sean McDermott playcalling brainfart at a critical moment yesterday, Buffalo owner Terry Pagula would be justified in wondering if Belichick might be the missing piece needed to finally put the Bills over the top. Just pay the GOAT whatever it would take to give up his desire for total control and let him focus on fortifying the defense to pair with Josh Allen's offensive talents. Maybe convince Brian Daboll to come back as OC if he gets canned in New York.
This seems the me the only sort of opportunity that would work at the pro level. With the exception of Dallas, if I was owner of any of the teams with open or soon to be open slots there’s no way I’d hire BB with all of his baggage, ego, recent mixed results/weird decisions, and desire for control. A team like Buffalo or maybe Cincinnati even more so - I.e., a team with a great QB and lots of other elements (in other words, arguably not far away but being held back from getting over the hump by inferior coaching) should seize the moment.
 

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Bill went pretty deep with McAfee today on how it would work for him at the college level and how he envisions running a college program. I suppose it could all be spin to make slinking off to college look like a choice instead of his only option. But if so it’s a lot of work just for show.
 

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It is a league filled with terribly coached teams right now, as last nights clown show ending reiterated. If in fact there is no interest in BB, that says a lot more about the collection of incompetent, insecure, egomaniacal owners, than it does about him. Jacksonville,Chicago, Dallas, and Las Vegas just a few of the disasters who should be beating down his door.
 

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I'm not sure about this. I think you could very easily spin that a few years with BB re-building your infrastructure is a better use of the first 2-3 years of a rebuild than anything the Giants, Raiders, Browns, Colts, Jags, Titans, Saints, or Panthers are doing. He may or may not be the best drafter, but he knows how to build an NFL program from the inside out.

And that says nothing about teams you mentioned (Cowboys, Bengals), a Bears team supposedly with a franchise QB, or a Bills team unable to get over the hump.

That's, like 40% of the league.
Eh, would you want him to pick and develop the next QB? Not so sure. And I think the program building aspect is simply very difficult on a short timeframe, I don't think there's any chance he'll coach for more than 3 years. Yeah, maybe the Bills are also in that bucket, but I don't know if I would hand him Caleb Williams.
 

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Eh, would you want him to pick and develop the next QB? Not so sure. And I think the program building aspect is simply very difficult on a short timeframe, I don't think there's any chance he'll coach for more than 3 years. Yeah, maybe the Bills are also in that bucket, but I don't know if I would hand him Caleb Williams.
He has one of the best track records of developing QBs, not sure why you would not want him working with a new QB.

Because of Mac? That should be a success story that he made it to the playoffs with him.
 

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I think these franchises are really overanalyzing things if they are talking themselves out of Bill. He's literally the greatest coach in the history of the sport. The usual hit rate on coaches across the league is atrocious. The coaching we see on a regular basis is also atrocious. The idea that any other option is likely to lead to a better result is weakly supported by the body of evidence. Is any fan base really going to blame ownership for taking a "chance” on Bill? I highly doubt it. And if the point is to compete and win, he seems to have some track record there.
 

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I read somewhere earlier today that Bill was "surprised" that none of the 3 NFL teams who already fired their coaches have reached out to him. I'm wondering if this UNC interest is because Bill's getting signals that the NFL has moved on from him?
I don't think BB is coming back to coach in the NFL except under a very narrow set of circumstances that may or may not actually happen.

He's 73. When last we saw Bill in the NFL, he could not even competently fill out a coaching staff. All of that said, you need only look at the Pats over his last three years, comparing talent level to success, and see that he can still coach.

At this point, you don't hire him to rebuild an organization, because his years remaining in coaching are in the low singe digits. You hire him for an immediate and short term payoff. But that means having a lot of what is needed to win already in place. You can't count on him to bring in his own full and competent coaching staff, because he couldn't do that in his final years in NE. So he will need a willingness to let the front office help with that while he just brings in a few key people (Steve, Josh McD, etc.). I also don't think he can be trusts.

Put it all together and he would need a team he thinks is poised to make the jump to legit contender, with a front office run by someone he trusts enough to work for as opposed to being the guy in charge. But that team must also be seeking a coach.

I don't know who that would be.
 
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