AFAIK, Saban wants his OCs to run the Sark/Bama offense. Mac taught the offense to O’Brien after the conclusion of the season but after his hire.Can someone explain to what extent Bill O'Brien "worked" with Mac Jones? BOB was fired by HOU midway through 2020, which was Mac's last season at Alabama. From what I found, BOB became the Alabama OC on 1/21/21, which is after the college football season. What kind of relationship is there?
I have a very Eeyore like disposition. I find a way to be disappointed either way. Confirmation optional.
Not a hundred percent following. I do think it's the overwhelming consensus that the offensive coaching wasn't good last year and had to get better this year (either new people or at a minimum major improvement by the old ones) but I also I think a pretty big percentage of this board thinks that Mac Jones is basically a combination of richie rich and greg mcelroy (and sadly with mcelroy's arm talent not RR's) and that even with a good OC Mac will not be the solution. (Of course a lot of posters are in the general camp of "keep trying to get a top 5 QB because an average or above average QB signed to a real contact is death to a franchise" so some of them might think that a pretty good Mac is still not woth signing).I have a very Eeyore like disposition. I find a way to be disappointed either way. Confirmation optional.
The best thing about this signing is the fact that the team did it, because that suggests they felt it needed to be done. Which suggests that they believe maybe it was coaching not the players. Which is hopeful. Yes, this is what we all thought was obvious, but the team is in best position to know. So, let’s see how it goes.
I've heard that in Patricia's case at least, last season the Lions were still paying him, allowing him to work on the cheap for the Patriots. That's not the case this season, so we will see.
I assume organizations think they're both the same very good football minds that made them hot head coaching prospects a couple years ago and there are lots of jobs they could get--just not head coaching jobs any time soon, and likely not positions on the offensive side of the ball either. But would an Arizona or Tennessee take them as a defensive secondary coach and a special teams coach? You've got to think the answer is yes, don't you?What are their job prospects in the NFL? Can’t imagine there’s an organization or fan base clamoring for either one of them at this point.
Same thoughts here. Go get Marrone.Good hire. Very glad to have a legitimate, experienced, OC. Very interested to see how the rest of the offensive staff shakes out, particularly OL. Is Marrone still out there? I also don’t think this in anyway insures another year of Mac as the starter. At minimum, I expect an experienced veteran to be signed to compete/ push him, and wouldn’t rule out a bigger splash. Either way, this is a big step in the right direction.
I’m not so sure the Mayo thing ends with him as HC. We had this same discussion when McDaniels shirked Indy. I think they want him in the building because he’s a great asset, and they needed to do something to keep him. I don’t think any long term promises were made.Thank you baby Jesus!
Will be VERY interesting IMO to see how this offensive staff is built. For two reasons.
- prior to the Mayo announcement you’d have to think BOB would have been a solid successor pick to replace Bill in a few years (and a big enticement for him to come)
But if Mayo is now the potential heir the likelihood of BOB sticking around for long is a lot lower I’d think. So hopefully identifying HIS successor will go better than the vacuum when Josh left.
- and having said that how is this staff going to take shape? Is there a bright young offensive mind or two he can bring from Alabama to learn the system but bring some fresh blood to the building?
Did those other OC interviews potentially identify some NFL candidates to improve the staff and wait in the wings?
So glad to put this catastrophic decision in the rear view mirror though!
Exactly.Ideally, Patricia goes to Pink Stripes, and Judge returns to ST, while and BOB and BB set about adding a couple of bright young things or guys with proven experience to the offensive staff, especially QB and OL coaches. Should be interesting.
He’s now the receivers coach at Pitt, and still has that hair game going.Man I miss Underwood's fade.
Wow, Marge Simpson. Never change Tiquan.He’s now the receivers coach at Pitt, and still has that hair game going.
Harris was long gone by the time BOB arrived at Alabama. There's no relationship there as far as I know. And Harris' situation is about $$$. Rhamondre is terrific, and I think Kevin Harris and Strong showed that they probably can be more than adequate backups. I think Damien Harris will cost too much money, when they can more than adequately fill the RB room with quality for a lot less money. Unless Damien is willing to take a very low salary, I don't see him back at all.Does this make it more like they re-sign Harris?
BOB makes a lot of sense when you have to figure out Mac.
Fully agree.Harris was long gone by the time BOB arrived at Alabama. There's no relationship there as far as I know. And Harris' situation is about $$$. Rhamondre is terrific, and I think Kevin Harris and Strong showed that they probably can be more than adequate backups. I think Damien Harris will cost too much money, when they can more than adequately fill the RB room with quality for a lot less money. Unless Damien is willing to take a very low salary, I don't see him back at all.