Reverend said:
Remember most of America's incredibly confused reaction when Springsteen penned that anti-war piece for the NYTimes about Iraq?
That confusion goes back at least to "Born in the USA."
Reverend said:
Remember most of America's incredibly confused reaction when Springsteen penned that anti-war piece for the NYTimes about Iraq?
joe dokes said:
That confusion goes back at least to "Born in the USA."
Reverend said:Wait--King?
Was that intentional or not? It's funny either way--please don't edit it!
Reverend said:
Oh of course--that's why it was so funny when he explicitly resolved it.
Edit: Not that the lyrics to Born in the USA are terribly confounding...
Shelterdog said:
They're not but it's also not surprising that a song with a soaring patriots anthem and flags and blue jeans on album covers and in the video gets misinterpreted by people who-predictably-don't listen to all the lyrics.
drleather2001 said:
...In the middle of a resurgent cold war and released a couple of months before the Summer Olympics were held in the United States.
Springsteen and his management knew what they were doing with that cover, they aren't entirely blameless in attracting the jingoist nitwits.
Jingoist nitwits still be nitwits, tho.
joe dokes said:
and their money still be green, too.....
drleather2001 said:I mean, from what I understand, Springsteen doesn't even like sports!
jsinger121 said:[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgr0teW8F4[/media]
JohntheBaptist said:I think "speedball" was intentional though, to force the whole stylized nostalgia vibe. May be giving him too much credit?
Silverdude2167 said:Bill should never talk about soccer, ever. You're right Bill, Klinsmann had no idea he should use the teams speed down the flanks. That is why Fabian Johnson and Yedlin stayed home, never ventured forward and were not responsible for 40% of the goals scored....
SoxFanInPdx said:Barnwell was about as bad as Simmons. Both have zero business/knowledge to attempt to dissect the game.
SoxFanInPdx said:
Barnwell was about as bad as Simmons. Both have zero business/knowledge to attempt to dissect the game.
Speaking of speedballs. Shank looks like he's coming down/up from his as he does this interview.mabrowndog said:
Zero is still better than where this guy registers on the soccer expertise scale:
Shelterdog said:
I don't know soccer so can you elaborate? Barnwell generally forms complete sentences and that's about where my ability to judge a soccer analyst ends.
I'm an unabashed Simmons fan, but let's not forget the guy went to Brunswick in Greenwich. He is not a kid from the mean streets of Southie.DLew On Roids said:In this week's podcast with Kevin Wildes, Simmons:
He's officially become one of Those People. When the peasants are marching with their pitchforks, the Sports Guy Estate is going to be near the top of their list.
- Endorsed the idea of a Starbucks Black Card that would allow the bearer to jump the line in exchange for paying an extra $400 per year.
- Admitted that he has walked to the front of a long line at Starbucks and offered to pay for the drink of the first person in line if they'll add his drunk to their order.
- Talked about his son's visit from the Tooth Fairy and said that he got $10.
DLew On Roids said:In this week's podcast with Kevin Wildes, Simmons:
He's officially become one of Those People. When the peasants are marching with their pitchforks, the Sports Guy Estate is going to be near the top of their list.
- Endorsed the idea of a Starbucks Black Card that would allow the bearer to jump the line in exchange for paying an extra $400 per year.
- Admitted that he has walked to the front of a long line at Starbucks and offered to pay for the drink of the first person in line if they'll add his drunk to their order.
- Talked about his son's visit from the Tooth Fairy and said that he got $10.
DLew On Roids said:In this week's podcast with Kevin Wildes, Simmons:
He's officially become one of Those People. When the peasants are marching with their pitchforks, the Sports Guy Estate is going to be near the top of their list.
- Endorsed the idea of a Starbucks Black Card that would allow the bearer to jump the line in exchange for paying an extra $400 per year.
- Admitted that he has walked to the front of a long line at Starbucks and offered to pay for the drink of the first person in line if they'll add his drunk to their order.
- Talked about his son's visit from the Tooth Fairy and said that he got $10.
I know a certain sportwriter who would agree to that as long as he didn't have to pay the $400. Gods shouldn't have to pay fees.DLew On Roids said:
- Endorsed the idea of a Starbucks Black Card that would allow the bearer to jump the line in exchange for paying an extra $400 per year.
johnmd20 said:
The Starbucks thing is eon's worse than the Tooth Fairy ten dollars, although he shouldn't have said either.
I mean, even if he thought that, it's bad. But the fact that he actually said it on a Podcast and then decided to not edit it out means he's lost touch with reality. I certainly don't begrudge his success and I think he deserves it, but he's sounds like Kim Kardashian when he says something like that. It's the opposite of relatable.
If the line at Starbucks makes you so annoyed Bill, make your coffee at home. It isn't that difficult.
drleather2001 said:
Their both bad for the same reason: it's difficult to tell whether his ostensible point (that long lines suck/kids get money from toothfairies) is more important than the ulterior motive of him just talking about his ability to spend lots of money.
DLew On Roids said:In this week's podcast with Kevin Wildes, Simmons:
He's officially become one of Those People. When the peasants are marching with their pitchforks, the Sports Guy Estate is going to be near the top of their list.
- Endorsed the idea of a Starbucks Black Card that would allow the bearer to jump the line in exchange for paying an extra $400 per year.
- Admitted that he has walked to the front of a long line at Starbucks and offered to pay for the drink of the first person in line if they'll add his drunk to their order.
- Talked about his son's visit from the Tooth Fairy and said that he got $10.
JayMags71 said:Having the tooth fairy give your kid >$1 for a tooth is just showing off. Strolling to the front of the coffee line because you don't want to wait (and admitting you'll pay stupid money for the privilege of doing so) is just plain selfish.
Of course, when condition your kid to expect ten bucks a tooth, you're perpetuating the cycle.
My kids didn't lose any teeth yet but anyone listening to a podcast on a smartphone with a data plan talking about 10 bucks for your kids tooth being "too much" is good stuffifmanis5 said:I don't have kids, what's the going rate for a tooth these days?
John Marzano Olympic Hero said:I don't know any of these people (nor do I know Simmons) but through their writings they don't come off as assholes. Joe Posnanski seems like a good guy. For all of his bluster, Drew Magary seems like a decent guy. Same with Will Leitch, Chuck Klosterman (he's more of a book writer, but you get my point) and others. Simmons not so much. One of the things that got George W. Bush elected is that people said that he's the type of guy they'd want to grab a beer with. I don't know if that's a good way of choosing a president, but I think it's a good way of choosing a writer. I'd love having a beer with Posnanski and to be truthful, I'd probably have a beer with Simmons (lucky him!) but I don't think I'd enjoy it as much.
Ralphwiggum said:To me the biggest thing I took away from the Rolling Stone article is that BS seems to have developed a massive ego. As a guy who goes back to his Digital City days, I think Bill is a lot of things and many of the criticisms in this thread are warranted, but I guess I never took him for an egomaniac. He's obviously accomplished a ton and it is probably hard not to develop a bit of an ego given his position at ESPN, but he no longer seems like a guy who I would want to sit and have a beer with and talk sports.
Why should he have to wait in line with the hoi polli? Don't they know he's super important and also is willing to pay to show how super important he is?luckiestman said:As a side note, why is it fine for the market to price everything but suggesting the market price wait times is just beyond the pale and so privileged? Especially at the airport where things are already rationed this way.
No. It's the same thing. Duh.DrewDawg said:I don't fly a hell of a lot, so it's only been at a few airports, but isn't the TSA thing a separate line that doesn't slow down all the cattle in the regular line?
URI said:Flying and getting a coffee before work?
You're right. No difference. But you're also working under the assumption that I think TSA pre is a good thing, rather than a stupid thing.
DrewDawg said:I don't fly a hell of a lot, so it's only been at a few airports, but isn't the TSA thing a separate line that doesn't slow down all the cattle in the regular line?
I'm working under the assumption you don't think people are assholes for paying $80 to more or less skip the security line at the airport.URI said:Flying and getting a coffee before work?
You're right. No difference. But you're also working under the assumption that I think TSA pre is a good thing, rather than a stupid thing.
Yeah, basically the same concept happens with airlines (first class), hotels and car rentals (separate speedy check in lines) for people with "status", wouldn't surprise if Sbux did something like this. There are apps now to auction off a public parking place.kenneycb said:What's the difference between that and paying for TSA Pre?