JBill said:Cousin Sal's Simmons impersonation always makes me laugh.
“The way everyone else was covering Goodell's role in this whole story versus the way ESPN covered it, it was embarrassing," Simmons said. "I couldn’t believe nobody called out ESPN about it.”
I wish he'd have Steph Stradley on.allstonite said:His stuff on Brady v. Goodell was disappointing. I was hoping either he'd just not even touch on it because it's over with now, or come out guns blazing with well researched and thought out points. Instead he kind of half-assed it and let JackO (who gets his Boston sports takes from the boston.com comments section and WEEI) control the narrative. Berman completely retried the case? What was he talking about?
The rest was pretty standard Simmons and I'm glad he's back. The Morris one was great and he's starting to touch on some of the ESPN politics so he must be allowed to go there. I hope he fully fleshes it out sometime in the near future. I find it fascinating.
So true. Bill was out at sea for a lot of that.allstonite said:His stuff on Brady v. Goodell was disappointing. I was hoping either he'd just not even touch on it because it's over with now, or come out guns blazing with well researched and thought out points. Instead he kind of half-assed it and let JackO (who gets his Boston sports takes from the boston.com comments section and WEEI) control the narrative. Berman completely retried the case? What was he talking about?
ifmanis5 said:So true. Bill was out at sea for a lot of that.
For Bill, a self proclaimed Deflategate Truther and a huge Pats fan who had plenty of time to examine the details of the decision (and even read Wetzel and Jenkins quite a bit), he somehow missed most of the Berman decision key points when talking with JackO. It wasn't that Goodell merely overstepped his boundaries, it was that RG didn't follow the rules of his own shop and didn't allow Brady's lawyers access to documents they were entitled to view.
EDIT: agreed with above, maybe if he has Stradley on she can coach him up.
shlincoln said:The podcast with Wesley Morris was great, but if I worked at Grantland I'd be pretty annoyed with them for writing the site's obituary while it's still in operation.
Don Buddin's GS said:Simmons piece from Vanity Fair: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/10/bill-simmons-espn-hbo-grantland
In May, ESPN, which has a $15 billion broadcasting deal with Goodell’s football league, said it was cutting him lose when his deal expired.
allstonite said:Bob Ley has lost all credibility. Him writing the first sentence while referencing the DVN piece in his second sentence is hilarious.
Are you sure Ley isn't referencing this piece, which fits MUCH more in line with Simmons' actual criticisms in the VF piece (and is much more in line with Van Natta's usual work, compared to the deflategate shitshow)?
Dehere said:The guy who ran a money-losing website with no readership is of the opinion that the company generating more than $10bn/yr is past their peak. Good to know.
Given him a break. He must be a seton hall fan with that screen name.SuperManny said:I'm not sure I get the outrage here, isn't it generally accepted that ESPN has been losing subscribers and are projected to lose more in the coming years? They can still be profitable while being lower than their peak.
Dehere said:“When I did my best stuff there, there were better people than there are now,” he said. Simmons also believes that unbundling will end up costing ESPN, too: “I think they hit their peak already.”
Good god, what a blowhard. "When I did my best stuff there." Who says something like that? Get over yourself. The guy who ran a money-losing website with no readership is of the opinion that the company generating more than $10bn/yr is past their peak. Good to know.
I always assumed this was a one-way mistake, people writing loose when they meant lose:
Just walk away and wish them well. They made you rich and famous. It's not that hard to move on gracefully.
I'm pretty sure because he referenced "months of reporting" which was also often referenced by DVN when defending the piece and I'm not sure why he'd bring up a Rice piece when going at Simmons. Also, Simmons complemented the Rice piece at the time and yesterday in responding to Ley.
On Wednesday, Simmons renewed his criticism of his former employer, saying that he “absolutely” believes ESPN avoided overtly criticizing the N.F.L. “The way ESPN has covered the N.F.L. for the last year has been really shaky,” Simmons said. When it comes to coverage of Ray Rice and Goodell, he said, “You didn’t really see it on ESPN. You saw it everywhere else. You start to say, ‘Wait a minute, this is their biggest partner. Are they holding back a little?’”
The Bill Simmons Podcast is already the #2 podcast on Apple's list (#1 is This American Life). I'm guessing he grabbed Klosterman and Lowe from G'Land as well. He'll not be writing any columns, just podcast and a show on HBO. I could possibly see a book from him since a publishing company would make him a great offer.luckiestman said:What's Bill pulling down per live read? Any idea? On the podcast "start up" the number 6000 came out as the revenue from a podcast ad. Bill is doing like 4 live reads a show 3 times a week. That's 72000 a week and 96000 if he does 4 shows. That's a lot of bread and I can't imagine the costs are very high. Is he tossing cash to his guests?