Blount out for season
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I have no doubt this is true but you do need to substantiate the OP with a link.
Thanks.
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Fuck injuries this year. When they win this thing the HoF needs to enshrine BB/TB on the podium while they're holding the trophy.
My faith in the Pats management and coaching is so absolute that I am actually disappointed they signed a has-been vet (or really a never-was vet) in Montee Ball instead of some random, undrafted dude none of us have heard of, but that they liked for some reason.
Of course, the randon, undrafted dude none of us have heard of is now starting (Bolden) so...
Of course, the randon, undrafted dude none of us have heard of is now starting (Bolden) so...
Is this still due to the hip pointer? Feels like there must be more to it, but I'm no expert on injuries
Say hello to Alonzo Harris.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/79262/patriots-work-out-rb-alonzo-harris-lb-kevin-snyder
It's funny -- as I read his rather sparse blurb like you I felt a lot more optimistic about him than Ball. This team does have a way of spotting talent....
I am seeing conflicting reports as to whether he's being placed on IR or not, but it seems like a safe assumption that he has not been, so far at least. The "out for the season" wording is pretty ambiguous, and misleading if all that is being reported is that somebody close to the team says that he is going to be held out the next three games. I mean, if that's all this is -- who cares? And given the Pats' MO, until he goes on IR, don't we have to assume that anything we hear is just speculation?
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Yeah, especially given the above Jason LaCanfora tweet that the Pats are still assessing things and that there's a possibility Blount will be back sometime during the playoffs.
Old article, but Jackson's interest in playing for a winner comes through clearly:
Former Rams and Falcons running back Steven Jackson made it clear this week that he'd like to keep playing if the right team comes calling.
"That's the thing," Jackson told ESPN.com. "I have all the things I've accomplished personally, but I've still never been on a team that won more than eight games. That would be definitely one of the things that I'm looking for is that opportunity in my next chapter."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492798/article/steven-jackson-wants-to-play-for-a-winner
Former Rams and Falcons running back Steven Jackson made it clear this week that he'd like to keep playing if the right team comes calling.
"That's the thing," Jackson told ESPN.com. "I have all the things I've accomplished personally, but I've still never been on a team that won more than eight games. That would be definitely one of the things that I'm looking for is that opportunity in my next chapter."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000492798/article/steven-jackson-wants-to-play-for-a-winner
6 fumbles for Montee Ball in 175 career NFL carries. All 6 fumbles were lost; you've got to wonder if Ball would still be in Denver if the Broncos had recovered 2 or 3 of those. It's probably just a depth move, but there's upside here if Ball's fumble woes are fixable, or just SSS.
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nah, dude simply was too slow for the NFL and could not hit holes and move the chains. Big bust and a waste of a high pick by Elway. I doubt he plays a snap for the Pats.
Coincidentally, I briefly met Steven Jackson in St. Louis in late September. Dude was cut. Seemed to be keeping himself in good shape. Fwiw. I almost didn't recognize him because he cut off his dreads, but he was so big and jacked that your first thought was immediately, "this guy looks like a football player."
Paul Perillo spoke about this in his Ask PFW chat this week.
Belichick has taught me to never dismiss anything but in this case I'm pretty close to dismissing it. Robert Kraft has stated on the record that he would not sign Ray Rice in the past due to his domestic violence issues. Given that it would be quite difficult for me to ever imagine Rice in a Patriot uniform. I understand that conditions can change and a statement made in the past can sometimes be modified and change altogether, but in this case Kraft was quite adamant and I doubt he'd agree to go back on his word. Plus, the last we saw Rice on the field he was barely averaging 3 yards per carry. That, more so than any of his personal problems, is why he's no longer in the league.
Given how quickly running backs age the best back out there is probably some 23 year old guy from Akron on a AFC south practice squad. Jackson, BJGE, Rice are all just ancient in NFL terms.
True. IIRC he was always pretty good in pass protection. Maybe you're better off having a reliable old guy than hoping that Jahan Edwards, RB, Ball State from the Jacksonville Jags PS is a slightly better running back
Jackson might be the kind of reliable back they're looking for.
Still, there are guys who fit your description. Per Reiss, yesterday the Pats worked out Alonzo Harris, a 6'1", 235 pound UDFA from Louisiana-Lafayette who spent 6 games with the Packers this season and was released two weeks ago.
Kid is a bruising, big, Blount-type runner, and flashed enough in the preseason to warrant a roster spot with the Packers, who had solid options at RB. A little interesting.
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Especially if you are not looking for this guy to get 20 carries per game. The pats needs a running back with enough of a threat to at least keep defenses honest and a guy to fall forward in the 4th quarter when protecting a lead. They are not going to be asking Blounts replacement to go out there and win the game.
I don't know if Jackson is the right guy but for this role id prefer steady and safe vs more explosive but unknown.
If he is in shape and legs are good enough, which I bet they are, Jackson would be an excellent signing. As long as they don't ask him to go 25 carries a game or more...then again, he was pretty good. Catches passes, too.
"After the 2011-2012 season, Steven Jackson became the seventh player in NFL history to rush for 1,000 yards in seven or more consecutive seasons. Only Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Curtis Martin, Thurman Thomas, Eric Dickerson and LaDainian Tomlinson have accomplished the feat."
"After the 2011-2012 season, Steven Jackson became the seventh player in NFL history to rush for 1,000 yards in seven or more consecutive seasons. Only Emmitt Smith, Barry Sanders, Curtis Martin, Thurman Thomas, Eric Dickerson and LaDainian Tomlinson have accomplished the feat."
Normally I'd be pretty disappointed in this approach. But let's think about what is going to be asked of SJax?
Come in totally fresh having spent no time playing this year.
Play 2-3 games
Recover for 2-3 weeks
Play 2 games
Recover for 2 weeks
Play 1 game
Go on a parade
If he's in shape, I bet he can do that at a pretty high level.
Come in totally fresh having spent no time playing this year.
Play 2-3 games
Recover for 2-3 weeks
Play 2 games
Recover for 2 weeks
Play 1 game
Go on a parade
If he's in shape, I bet he can do that at a pretty high level.
I'm looking at no downside to signing Jackson. He has familiarity with McDaniels and his offense so picking up the playbook shouldn't be a huge issue. I'm under the assumption that he's in at least decent if not football shape, so the balance of the season is like training camp. Build up his snaps each of the weeks and have him ready to go for the 1st playoff game.
True, it's a pretty moderate workload over a short duration of games, which could make some of the older vets more viable than they would be otherwise.
Heh, 17-year-old me says "hell no." I fondly remember spending most of my time in a high school typing class devouring any and all info on 2004's top draft prospects. Me and a buddy drooling over the champs having two first rounders. We agreed that Steven Jackson was our favorite target at 21, although I don't think we had expected Vince to be available. I think this is worth a shot to see what he's got left in the tank.
It is less a question of "downside" than a question of whether he is a better option than some 7th rounder or UDFA from the last few years that is currently sitting on a practice squad.
Jackson is 32, which is ancient in running back years, and with 3200 career touches has a lot of miles on his tires. I would be surprised if he isn't totally cooked.
Hes not going to be good, but he's going to be better than Brandon Bolden or Fat Montae Ball so sign me up.
2006 Corey Dillon strikes me as a reasonable comp for what to look for as a reasonable hope for from Jackson, maybe with a little less explosion and a little more work in the passing game.
2006 Corey Dillon strikes me as a reasonable comp for what to look for as a reasonable hope for from Jackson, maybe with a little less explosion and a little more work in the passing game.
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If Bill says he's cooked that's good by me, but all they need him to do is grind out a bunch of 3 yard runs and the occasional 7-8 yarder while not laying the ball on the ground along. Throw in some competent pass protection and he should be more than adequate. The upside for better rushing performance probably does exist with some practice squad player, but they carry more unknowns than Jackson with ball protection and pass protection. In this case I'll go with the guy least likely to be responsible for Brady getting killed and Jackson is probably that guy.
That would be the hope. But 2006 Corey Dillon is like a 95th percentile outcome for 32-year-old once great running backs. Among that group, I'm not sure why Dillon is a more likely comp than 2011 LaDainian Tomlinson (totally cooked) or 2005 Eddie George (sitting on the couch).
Its not like we have great alternatives so I won't hate the move if it happens. I just wouldn't expect much and I wouldn't be surprised if Bolden proves the better option.