Amusingly Soto and Kiermaier have almost the exact same career bWAR, 36.5 to 36.4.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml
Why must you keep littering this thread with FACTS? Grrr....Yankees fan!Amusingly Soto and Kiermaier have almost the exact same career bWAR, 36.5 to 36.4.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml
The Bronx vitamin regimen didn't do anything for Verdugo, with his .356 slugging percentage. (When I looked it up just now I was stunned, I knew it was low but didn't think it was THAT low).Let’s be real. The Yankees will sign a hatable “C-List” guy like Kevin Kiermaier. He’ll get on the Bronx Vitamin regimen, his head will swell to the size of a jackfruit, and he’ll OPS .850 while hitting about 25-30 home runs.
.336 after April, so bad.The Bronx vitamin regimen didn't do anything for Verdugo, with his .356 slugging percentage. (When I looked it up just now I was stunned, I knew it was low but didn't think it was THAT low).
We give all of our outgoing outfielders mercury poisoning on their way out the door, if we suspect or know they are going to the Yankees. Ellsbury. Verdugo.The Bronx vitamin regimen didn't do anything for Verdugo, with his .356 slugging percentage. (When I looked it up just now I was stunned, I knew it was low but didn't think it was THAT low).
Yeah, don't recall now if it was rumor or wishcasting (McAdam saying it would be great for the industry if...) but Soto news soto voce.Time running out to get this done before the winter meetings, which I thought the early rumors had suggested was the goal for Soto/Boras. Maybe I am misremembering?
I think most of the big spenders are either trying to acquire Soto or waiting to see what happens with Soto before moving on to the other free agents.Time running out to get this done before the winter meetings, which I thought the early rumors had suggested was the goal for Soto/Boras. Maybe I am misremembering?
Plenty of time for more random Twitter guys to tell us what they knowWinter Meetings are in Dallas, Dec 9-12, so there’s still 8 days to go. If the bidding is already in the 600s then there aren’t many more bids to go. The hammer should fall this week.
If it's Soto's goal to have it done before the winter meetings, he's entirely in control of the timeline. There's nothing any team can do to speed things along, unless they think they can throw down an offer that no one else will come close to matching, which almost definitionally makes it an overpay and not really in their best interest. I imagine teams most likely want to be the highest bidder but don't necessarily want to pay a dollar more than they have to to be that bidder.Time running out to get this done before the winter meetings, which I thought the early rumors had suggested was the goal for Soto/Boras. Maybe I am misremembering?
Tough to apartment hunt on a Sunday.It’s gone eerily quiet on Natali Soto.
I don't see why a team couldn't do that, but at the same time, I would love it if such an offer was binding.3 Can a team (let’s call them the M-team) say “Our offer is n+50M?” Without a specific number? Assuming the n is a verifiable number? Is that ‘ethical?’
“Beauty, eh!”I don't see why a team couldn't do that, but at the same time, I would love it if such an offer was binding.
Breslow: "We offer 14 years, $700M."
Boras: "Strong offer. But the Mets said they'll beat anything you offer by $50M."
Breslow: "Would Soto take $50M less to play here?"
Boras: "No."
Breslow: "In that case, we offer 5 years, $50 billion."
*Mets cease to exist*
Who was the poster?This just popped up over at Prospects. The poster is unknown to me, and there’s no further detail. Wonder if this is Mikey in disguse?
“ Juan Soto instructed Scott Boras to find a deal with the Red Sox last week (Wed/Thu). Unless the Red Sox were bluffing about their interest, or the details don't work out, then there will be an official announcement within a week or two. There's a chance that the Red Sox are too nitpicky with contract structure and details (charities, deferrals, opt-outs), and the Mets just wash away the difference in cash, but Juan Soto did decide to sign with the Red Sox as his first choice and I'll leave for another 5+ years if Soto is a Met by Christmas.
We've seen with the Correa stuff that deals can fall through. But, the value proposition over the next fifteen years is too good to pass up considering the CBA, upcoming FAs, and draft classes. Insurance covers disaster scenarios, so the only real concern is if Soto takes a Rendon/Pujols route post 30/31. But, that's five years from now and a World Series win would cover the costs.‘
suggests he’s been wrong before and left the site before. and I'll leave for another 5+ years if Soto is a Met by Christmas.
Reeks of the classic internet “sure thing but here’s a few small ways it might not happen so don’t blame me if I’m wrong” type post.This just popped up over at Prospects. The poster is unknown to me, and there’s no further detail. Wonder if this is Mikey in disguse?
“ Juan Soto instructed Scott Boras to find a deal with the Red Sox last week (Wed/Thu). Unless the Red Sox were bluffing about their interest, or the details don't work out, then there will be an official announcement within a week or two. There's a chance that the Red Sox are too nitpicky with contract structure and details (charities, deferrals, opt-outs), and the Mets just wash away the difference in cash, but Juan Soto did decide to sign with the Red Sox as his first choice and I'll leave for another 5+ years if Soto is a Met by Christmas.
We've seen with the Correa stuff that deals can fall through. But, the value proposition over the next fifteen years is too good to pass up considering the CBA, upcoming FAs, and draft classes. Insurance covers disaster scenarios, so the only real concern is if Soto takes a Rendon/Pujols route post 30/31. But, that's five years from now and a World Series win would cover the costs.‘
We had a curll around hear for a number of years. Probably the same guy.The moniker was curll. No further5 info.
on that note:I dare say it might be time for a “news only” thread.
Which will last for two posts ... maxI dare say it might be time for a “news only” thread.
Might be the hardest I've ever laughed at a throw away comment. Not good for the migraine but lolMy neighbor's dog posts on Prospects (and oddly enough at Pawspects too).
Can Waffles confirm that Soto's dog loves leftover lobster?My neighbor's dog posts on Prospects (and oddly enough at Pawspects too). He tells me the poster in question is a total hack and can't be trusted. No new Soto news from Waffles though - he has been dealing with a tryptophan hangover all weekend.
The A-Rod deal was voided by the MLBPA, though, not the player himself. A-Rod did everything he could to come to Boston.Well we saw the A-Rod deal fall apart over not all that much. (Not that I’m sorry it did)
Not yet. There's no news.I dare say it might be time for a “news only” thread.
I thought the tax debate decided it was between living in Boston and living in Connecticut.on that note:
If the money is close and someone chooses to live in Boston instead of Manhattan they are kind of a fucked up person who I do not want my team paying $700M to anyway.
Soto's dog's sister is checking out kennels for when the Sox are on the roadCan Waffles confirm that Soto's dog loves leftover lobster?
One of these things is not like the others.This just popped up over at Prospects. The poster is unknown to me, and there’s no further detail. Wonder if this is Mikey in disguse?
“ Juan Soto instructed Scott Boras to find a deal with the Red Sox last week (Wed/Thu). Unless the Red Sox were bluffing about their interest, or the details don't work out, then there will be an official announcement within a week or two. There's a chance that the Red Sox are too nitpicky with contract structure and details (charities, deferrals, opt-outs), and the Mets just wash away the difference in cash, but Juan Soto did decide to sign with the Red Sox as his first choice and I'll leave for another 5+ years if Soto is a Met by Christmas.
We've seen with the Correa stuff that deals can fall through. But, the value proposition over the next fifteen years is too good to pass up considering the CBA, upcoming FAs, and draft classes. Insurance covers disaster scenarios, so the only real concern is if Soto takes a Rendon/Pujols route post 30/31. But, that's five years from now and a World Series win would cover the costs.‘
Right. But the reason that the MLBPA voided the deal was that the Red Sox were looking to change his contract. The Yankees, on the other hand, were not. Same Sox owner as now.The A-Rod deal was voided by the MLBPA, though, not the player himself. A-Rod did everything he could to come to Boston.
Soto's dog's brother's nephew's cousin's former owner says...Typing that out took so much time I've already forgotten the joke.Soto's dog's sister is checking out kennels for when the Sox are on the road
That'll keep it going for another 18 hoursDo we care what Pepén thinks? I can’t keep track of the grifters - my recollection is he was right about Devers
View: https://twitter.com/Marino_Pepen/status/1863397273197002992
“I have consulted many influential people linked to baseball in the DR, and most tell me that Juan Soto will be a #RedSox .”
more of a “feelings” post but it’s something
Interestingly Kevin Kiermaier has provided exactly the same career War as the wonderfully named Candy Cummings.Why must you keep littering this thread with FACTS? Grrr....Yankees fan!
Interesting list. Here are top 10 active hitters by bWAR/yr. Get it done.Amusingly Soto and Kiermaier have almost the exact same career bWAR, 36.5 to 36.4.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_career.shtml
Rank | Player | yrs | age | bWAR | bWAR/yr | PA | Bats/ Throws |
105 | Mookie Betts |
11 |
31 |
69.6 | 6.3 | 6273 | R |
50 | Mike Trout |
14 |
32 |
86.2 | 6.2 | 6647 | R |
287 | Aaron Judge |
9 |
32 |
52.2 | 5.8 | 4323 | R |
658 | Juan Soto |
7 |
25 |
36.4 | 5.2 | 4088 | L |
328 | Francisco Lindor |
10 |
30 |
49.6 | 5.0 | 6116 | B |
594 | Matt Chapman |
8 |
31 |
38.4 | 4.8 | 4235 | R |
228 | Nolan Arenado |
12 |
33 |
56.7 | 4.7 | 7078 | R |
160 | Paul Goldschmidt |
14 |
36 |
62.8 | 4.5 | 8292 | R |
218 | Manny Machado |
13 |
31 |
57.8 | 4.4 | 7517 | R |
439 | Carlos Correa |
10 |
29 |
44.4 | 4.4 | 4760 | R |