Totally agree.This is well-summarized. I happen to think they know they're out of it, and this forces their endgame. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out within 24 hours that they're moving on
Totally agree.This is well-summarized. I happen to think they know they're out of it, and this forces their endgame. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out within 24 hours that they're moving on
I tend to agree with you. And btw, this is what they should do. You can’t sit around and wait if a guy isn’t going come here.Totally agree.
View: https://twitter.com/liamfennessy_/status/1864858075611418703?s=46I tend to agree with you. And btw, this is what they should do. You can’t sit around and wait if a guy isn’t going come here.
As an aside, Carrabis hinted at a different free agent signing with the Sox soon on Baseball is Dead, which would line up with the team moving a different direction.
Or, is Soto too expensive?Is Henry too cheap or not interested enough to take a meeting?
I don’t think what Jared is alluding to means Sox are moving in another direction from Soto.I tend to agree with you. And btw, this is what they should do. You can’t sit around and wait if a guy isn’t going come here.
As an aside, Carrabis hinted at a different free agent signing with the Sox soon on Baseball is Dead, which would line up with the team moving a different direction.
I wonder if it's Max Fried. Perhaps the speculation on only trading for a SP instead of signing one was misdirection.As an aside, Carrabis hinted at a different free agent signing with the Sox soon on Baseball is Dead, which would line up with the team moving a different direction.
Misdirection to whom, exactly?I wonder if it's Max Fried. Perhaps the speculation on only trading for a SP instead of signing one was misdirection.
I read that the woman who babysat for Giolito and Fried as kids was looking for apartments, dog walkers, and tax accountants in Boston.I wonder if it's Max Fried. Perhaps the speculation on only trading for a SP instead of signing one was misdirection.
Try flomaxIs everyone else’s stream quality just absolute dogshit?
hmm. Usually that’s what sisters are for.I read that the woman who babysat for Giolito and Fried as kids was looking for apartments, dog walkers, and tax accountants in Boston.
I don't think that will be the case either. They will no doubt improve the team.Oh don't get me wrong - if this is indicative that the Sox didn't get Soto, I'm going to be bummed. But by all accounts, the Sox made an extremely competitive offer to the biggest free agent on the market and went blow-for-blow with the Dodgers, Mets, and Yankees. I think our participation in the Soto sweepstakes marks a shift in the F.O.'s mentality. I don't see us doing this in 2020-2024.
Now, that sentiment could be rendered moot by us missing every other free agent target and running the '24 roster back out there. I don't think that'll be the case.
But only the cheap stuff it seems. For many in this place the calendar is always before 2004.We drink wine, not Kool-Aid
I think Santander would be an upgrade if no Soto nor TeoscarIf no Soto and no Teoscar, Duran/Rafaela/Abreu isn’t bad with Ref and maybe Campbell (if Grissom is viable at 2B) behind them if the pitching is studly. The IF and OF options available don’t seem like big upgrades but the pitching upgrades do.
Am I missing a really big upgrade at OF out there after JS and TH?
Low OBP 30+ year-old just screams “don’t do it” to me. Power is nice but I’m staying away unless it’s a really short 1-2 year deal.I think Santander would be an upgrade if no Soto nor Teoscar
Yep. Would prefer bringing back ONeill to 5 years for Santander.Low OBP 30+ year-old just screams “don’t do it” to me. Power is nice but I’m staying away unless it’s a really short 1-2 year deal.
Agreed. Two years tops.Low OBP 30+ year-old just screams “don’t do it” to me. Power is nice but I’m staying away unless it’s a really short 1-2 year deal.
Hell I’d be open to Alonso if his market doesn’t materialize past 4 years and we can find a way to move Yoshida. O’Neill coming back wouldn’t be the worst thing ever, either.Agreed. Two years tops.
Not a free agent, and it depends on your definition of "big," but the Cubs are allegedly shopping Seiya Suzuki.If no Soto and no Teoscar, Duran/Rafaela/Abreu isn’t bad with Ref and maybe Campbell (if Grissom is viable at 2B) behind them if the pitching is studly. The IF and OF options available don’t seem like big upgrades but the pitching upgrades do.
Am I missing a really big upgrade at OF out there after JS and TH?
This sums it up. If you know you're losing, take your best shot.I think it came from the Red Sox. I also think it sets the “soft landing” for it not happening. Those both make total sense.
Beyond that, I think it’s a great move by Boston. We all assume (or at least I do) that the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers will always have the financial means to out bid the Red Sox if they want the same player. Doesn’t excuse the Red Sox from spending, they have a ton of money, but at some point if Bill Gates and his $162b fortune is in a bidding war with Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, no matter how committed he is, Gates will lose.
They‘ve (I assume) made a very good offer, and lets just say it was $625m, and then Cohen says, fine $675m. Boras comes back and asks the Sox for a counter, and they know Cohen can always outbid them. Make it known that you want the player and ask what the number is to get a deal done.
If its all and only about the money, he’s going to be a Met, a Yankee or a Dodger and there is nothing FSG can do about that. If there is a number at which he would agree to be a Red Sox, find it out and if not, you know you have your answer and can move on to other players.
Its a power move that (to me) has Theo‘s fingerprints all over it. I‘m glad they’re doing it.
(Also, it almost certainly won’t work and he will be a Met or far worse a Yankee. But this is also their only Lloyd Christmas odds chance to land the player.)
Clearly you've only been a fan since 2004.Man, what a pessimistic bunch
Suddenly I am back in law school reading about mutual versus unilateral mistake.As much as I want Juan Soto, I think this would be the best possible outcome.
Yeah I guess moving CR to 10th man and putting Duran in CF, at least against RHP, would be an upgrade.Not a free agent, and it depends on your definition of "big," but the Cubs are allegedly shopping Seiya Suzuki.
All bark, no biteIm surprised no one has created a Poll to check the temperature of what people here think/hope will transpire.
I dont know how, I'm a druid.
... or maybe he wants to partner with Vladdy to comprise the greatest 1-2 ever, greater than Papi-MannyIt seems to me that Soto will sign with the organization he most wants to play with for the next decade or so. That might seem ridiculously obvious. What I mean is, maybe the objective of the bidding war, at this point, is about getting the most from that team, rather than simply getting the most money regardless of the team. Maybe he wants to partner with Lindor. Maybe he loves the Yankee tradition and the big city lights. Maybe he wants to be the next great Dominican Red Sox Star, and likes the team's farm pipeline, etc. If he loves playing for the Yankees, 50 Million from more from Cohen, over 13 years, when he'll be insanely rich regardless (let's not forget the millions he'll make in endorsements) might not be determinative.
Match it.Carlos Mendoza’s son “possibly” leaked the mets offer on tiktok
View: https://twitter.com/gingersnaphyde/status/1864899627662602596?s=46
Absolutely amazing. Kid's twelve, he's got two videos on TikTok and one of them is him playing catch with Francisco Lindor, and he's just out there leaking info on the biggest contract offer in sports history and being all "Just watch and see if you don't believe me." WHERE IS AVERAGE MICK NOW??Carlos Mendoza’s son “possibly” leaked the mets offer on tiktok
View: https://twitter.com/gingersnaphyde/status/1864899627662602596?s=46
“do you know who i am” says the son of an MLB manager…
Absolutely amazing. Kid's twelve, he's got two videos on TikTok and one of them is him playing catch with Francisco Lindor, and he's just out there leaking info on the biggest contract offer in sports history and being all "Just watch and see if you don't believe me." WHERE IS AVERAGE MICK NOW??
View: https://twitter.com/mattgross87/status/1864917008858443910?s=46Match it.
If I'm the Sox and I know the Mets' offer to Soto is $700M, I'm coming in at $710,550,500. Why that figure? Because it matches the exact longitude numbers of left field at Fenway (his potential new home) with a longitude line that happens to share part of his homeland in the DR.
Where the hell are Cora's kids? We need all hands on deck!!!Carlos Mendoza’s son “possibly” leaked the mets offer on tiktok
View: https://twitter.com/gingersnaphyde/status/1864899627662602596?s=46
“do you know who i am” says the son of an MLB manager…
come on - this isn’t WEEI.Is Henry too cheap or not interested enough to take a meeting?
That is how I am feeling... Would I want Soto of course... but know what - if he goes to the Mets - okay with that too... won't watch his career as close but if not on direct competition that works for me too.Mets has always made the most sense. Keep away from the Yankees and I’m happy.
$46.6 million. And he's gonna opt out in 5 anyway so fucking making it happen, Theo.$50 million per year for the next 15 years. Sweet Jesus.