Boston’s taxing pursuit of Juan Soto is over. (Mets)

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Honestly. Why would you want to play for the Mets?
I have a soft spot for the Mets because of my family’s rooting interest and the fact that 1986 was well before I was born but, yes, who the fuck would choose the Mets when other options exist?*

*unless that other option is the MFY
 

loneredseat

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Honestly. Why would you want to play for the Mets?
A place in Brooklyn and another on the south shore of Long Island.
An owner who is going to keep throwing money at the team until they win.
And be the hero of the whole freaking area.

Wouldn't suck...
 

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I will say it's kinda annoying that Soto could easily be a Red Sox without Cohen in the picture
I hope Soto took one good look at Cohen and gave him a look of derision, and decided then and there he didn't want to be a Met.

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Cohen looks like a total dweeb. Like his goal isn't to build a winning baseball team. He wants to "collect people".
 

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Wondering if that’s Arenado….
Just thinking of a guy who they think would at first elicit mixed feelings from the fan base, trigger a ripple effect of other roster moves, and look good by midseason, one who comes to mind is Gleyber Torres.
 

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Juan Soto plays the game with the passion and energy of a kid. He seems like he’s having fun and enjoys the game immensely with his backyard wiffleball antics of the shuffle & grin.

Whether it’s 700 or 775, it’s an insane amount of $ - his life will be exactly the same. Except for where he plays baseball. And for a man with a lot of little kid in him, how fun would it be to play left field and field balls off the Monster and throw fools out who dare to try to stretch out a double on you?

I grew up in Northern California and my neighbor built a replica wiffleball field of — not Shea Stadium — but Fenway Park.

Soto grew up a Red Sox fan. He WANTS to play in Fenway.

It will get done by Sunday night because he can’t keep allowing the Mets to raise the price because he will soon lose the Red Sox and maybe the Yankees.

But deep down inside, this kid wants to field line drives off the Monster and hit jacks over it. The money now is all the same. He wants to play in Fenway like the Dominican legends of his youth and the line of LF greats like Ted, Yaz, Jim Ed and Manny. It’s everything Soto dreamed of as a kid and now it’s right in front of him. It’s always been his dream. It’s always been his destiny.

Juan Soto is coming home.
 

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Juan Soto plays the game with the passion and energy of a kid. He seems like he’s having fun and enjoys the game immensely with his backyard wiffleball antics of the shuffle & grin.

Whether it’s 700 or 775, it’s an insane amount of $ - his life will be exactly the same. Except for where he plays baseball. And for a man with a lot of little kid in him, how fun would it be to play left field and field balls off the Monster and throw fools out who dare to try to stretch out a double on you?

I grew up in Northern California and my neighbor built a replica wiffleball field of — not Shea Stadium — but Fenway Park.

Soto grew up a Red Sox fan. He WANTS to play in Fenway.

It will get done by Sunday night because he can’t keep allowing the Mets to raise the price because he will soon lose the Red Sox and maybe the Yankees.

But deep down inside, this kid wants to field line drives off the Monster and hit jacks over it. The money now is all the same. He wants to play in Fenway like the Dominican legends of his youth and the line of LF greats like Ted, Yaz, Jim Ed and Manny. It’s everything Soto dreamed of as a kid and now it’s right in front of him. It’s always been his dream. It’s always been his destiny.

Juan Soto is coming home.
This is the stuff that dreams are made of.
 

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Hee Sox - That's well worded and always our only shot. Hope it works

on a side note what other replica wiffle ball field could you make other than Fenway. The monster in left field makes it unparalleled.
 

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The Mets seemed to have the edge when this process began because everyone expected Cohen to blow everyone else away with some Godfather offer. This makes it sound like that hasn’t really been the case (so far).
Yeah, it always struck me as overly simplistic, like he was just gonna shop for a fancy toy and whip out his AmEx. It's not that simple. The team pays the salaries and Cohen is the guy who owns the shell company that owns 95% of the Mets' stock. If the Mets went in the red and needed cash, he can do that, so they have less risk in giving out that kind of deal, but I'm sure the process for infusing his personal cash into the team is not nothing.

Then there are the CBT rules which are a drag on the team's ability to stock talent. Their roster was already the oldest team in the league last year and their farm system is middle of the pack (apparently) so in the short term they are paying vet prices for a lot of the team. He *can* blow away all the other offers, and if the Soto signing were just another asshole billionaire dick measuring contest, fine. But above a certain price it becomes a bad way to try to win baseball games. Meanwhile the Sox have the opposite situation, cheap young talent at almost every position. If anyone can stomach the contract that's coming while remaining competitive, it's the Sox.
 

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Sorry, but it has already been established in this thread that you have to either think Soto is amazing at $700M or you were never sincerely thought he was amazing and it was all a great ruse to get everyone in here to love you again.
I wasnt aware that anyone loved me here in the first place. I think Soto is a great player aside from any contract #'s. I also believe the Mets or Yankees can sign him and not miss a beat, while the Red Sox would struggle greatly if things don't work out. That is main concern, second being the Red Sox making a desperation signing if Soto doesn't work out.
 

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For those who are convinced he's going to the Mets and live outside the US... Mets are all the way down to 6 cents a share on Polymarket. ;)
 

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Absolutely nothing.

I’m not sure why everyone keeps quoting that thing. It’s the epitome of a small sample size. The Soto thing has about $13K in whatever they are selling. Others are in the millions.
 

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Poly market currently. Not sure what this means….

Red Sox 51%
Yankees 36%
Mets 9%
Jays 2.5%
Absolutely nothing.

I’m not sure why everyone keeps quoting that thing. It’s the epitome of small sample size. The Soto thing has about $13K in whatever they are selling. Others are in the millions.
It means he's a lock to come to the Sox. Today. Ignore Skrub. He put all his Polymarket money on the Angels.
 

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I'm just glad to see I am not the only psycho who woke up this morning and immediately checked in to see if Soto made his decision overnight. Or am I?I Is everyone else living in Europe??????
 

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I hope Soto took one good look at Cohen and gave him a look of derision, and decided then and there he didn't want to be a Met.

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Cohen looks like a total dweeb. Like his goal isn't to build a winning baseball team. He wants to "collect people".
You know what John Henry looks like right? Can’t see us winning if owner looks is a factor.
 

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I'm just glad to see I am not the only psycho who woke up this morning and immediately checked in to see if Soto made his decision overnight. Or am I?I Is everyone else living in Europe??????
I've been up since 4am to see if Soto made his choice.

Well, that and I work today. Mostly the Soto thing, though.
 

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I've been up since 4am to see if Soto made his choice.

Well, that and I work today. Mostly the Soto thing, though.
I figured Henry would make the announcement during the Liverpool match that starts at 730. Cross-branding and all that.

EDIT...I see the match has been postponed. I guess that means Soto goes to Sacramento after all. Darn.
 
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I'm just glad to see I am not the only psycho who woke up this morning and immediately checked in to see if Soto made his decision overnight. Or am I?I Is everyone else living in Europe??????
I checked almost every hour. I feel like a kid at Christmas!
 

CJ Mosca

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You can't sleep at times like this. The news could break while you're sleeping, which means it would be old news by the time you wake up.
I see your point. Is it possible that the decision was not made because some (one?) of us fell asleep? This will NOT happen again.
 

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You think the “Can’t believe we got him!” thread in the Yankees forum will get that big that fast?
Of course not. I was talking about the "They don't care enough...they're cheap...how could they not match the $1.5B contract...Henry's got that in his couch cushions" thread.
 

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For the Yankees, if they get him, they have the same team they just had, that did well yet failed to win the World Series (again). He would represent a massive investment, obviously, but not even a tiny improvement to their ball club. Signing Juan Soto doesn’t make them even a tiny bit better than this past season. For them, paying $700 million to keep Soto is simply them treading water.

For Boston and the Mets, however, he would represent a massive improvement over what they currently have.
 

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Just thinking of a guy who they think would at first elicit mixed feelings from the fan base, trigger a ripple effect of other roster moves, and look good by midseason, one who comes to mind is Gleyber Torres.
I agree, wasn’t Bieber. Also, wasn’t that from after the Bieber signing, and they still referenced the move being in play?

Arenado and Torres both make sense (in the context of Carrabis podcast). Others that would probably get mixed reactions and elicit a string of moves:

Bregman, Adames, Alonso, CWalker.

Trading Duran for someone like Gilbert or Kirby would also fit.

In the end, its almost certainly a nothing burger of a report, but I hope a move that leads to a lot of others happens. I think there is a lot of talent in the organization, but I don’t think it’s talent that neatly fits together.
 

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Acquiring Arenado would be a dumb move for Boston. Big name. Ok sure. But they'd have to trade something good to get him, and he's been declining for several years now. Just the kind of move this team does NOT need.
 

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I wonder if the move Carrabis is referencing is a Bregman signing. Not a beloved player nationally because of the Astros checkered past but the kind of guy you would root like hell for on your team. And it would cause other moves to be made as they referenced.
just a guess
 

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I wonder if the move Carrabis is referencing is a Bregman signing. Not a beloved player nationally because of the Astros checkered past but the kind of guy you would root like hell for on your team. And it would cause other moves to be made as they referenced.
just a guess
Different position,different player, but I would see Bregman enjoyed by the Red Sox fans as the new Pedroia.
 

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The Soto bidding is beginning to feel like when I have bid on something on eBay and in the closing minute other people start a flurry of bids. So, I keep upping my bid just to win, while overpaying for something I’m not fully convinced I need, massively. Except we are talking about nearly a billion dollars and a contract that will last until I am in my early 70s, but almost the same thing.
 

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At this point has JWH got his “walk away” meeting? Isn’t it safe to assume that such a meeting happens in Dallas as part of the winter meetings, so nothing comes out until Late tomorrow or on Monday at the earliest?
Does anyone know where JH is right now? Dallas? I imagine that Boras has no interest in advertising whether the meeting took place, as it may signal to others that the RS are close to clenching a deal, whether or not that’s accurate. If in fact, JH did request a meeting, I assume he meant an in person and not a virtual meeting, but with these personalities, no one knows.
 

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If there was some hypothetical 8 bWAR pitcher, aged 26-27 on the market I'd be much more excited. Soto represents an incremental improvement that might be worth 5 more wins next year. At 55m a year for the next decade+ I'd rather spend it on an ace.
 

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If there was some hypothetical 8 bWAR pitcher, aged 26-27 on the market I'd be much more excited. Soto represents an incremental improvement that might be worth 5 more wins next year. At 55m a year for the next decade+ I'd rather spend it on an ace.
A player who single handedly could bring 5 more wins is pretty damn good.
 

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If there was some hypothetical 8 bWAR pitcher, aged 26-27 on the market I'd be much more excited. Soto represents an incremental improvement that might be worth 5 more wins next year. At 55m a year for the next decade+ I'd rather spend it on an ace.
I’m kind of the opposite. I would never feel comfortable about spending $50M+ / year on a pitcher no matter how talented.