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It's going to be awkward when Tony Romo has to call his next Tompa Bay game after suggesting the guy who got his "last" touchdown pass get Giselle in exchange
 

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What a fucking piece of shit.
Someone online posted interviews with Brown from early in his career and it sounds like a completely different person. He was humble(ish) and engaging and seemed happy.
 

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Keeps finding a new bottom. Just a very bad person who would be better off in jail.
I'm sorry? What has he done to be in jail?

You realize that America has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country? The target being mostly minorities?

A black male that obviously needs some mental health help and the answer, as always, they should go to jail. I'm like anti cancel culture and def pretty against woke culture in general, but your post is about as racist as it gets.
 

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I'm sorry? What has he done to be in jail?

You realize that America has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country? The target being mostly minorities?

A black male that obviously needs some mental health help and the answer, as always, they should go to jail. I'm like anti cancel culture and def pretty against woke culture in general, but your post is about as racist as it gets.
He sexually assaulted a trainer and physically assaulted a delivery driver. Not to mention his whole nude pool incident where he shoved his ass it a woman’s face. Saying he should be in jail is not racist

edit: I agree he needs mental help more than he needs to be punished for what he’s done, because he is clearly not well at all, but suggesting he should be in jail is pretty reasonable
 

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And, well, selling fake watches is also a crime. A serious crime against innocent guys who just wanna pay a couple hundred thousand dollars for a shitty emperor’s new clothes watch.
 

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I'm sorry? What has he done to be in jail?

You realize that America has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country? The target being mostly minorities?

A black male that obviously needs some mental health help and the answer, as always, they should go to jail. I'm like anti cancel culture and def pretty against woke culture in general, but your post is about as racist as it gets.
I mean, obviously nothing he’s done to Tom Brady warrants prison, but he has had some fairly well publicized incidents of predatory behavior towards women. It’s not that far out of line.
 

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I'm sorry? What has he done to be in jail?

You realize that America has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country? The target being mostly minorities?

A black male that obviously needs some mental health help and the answer, as always, they should go to jail. I'm like anti cancel culture and def pretty against woke culture in general, but your post is about as racist as it gets.
Look up his offenses. He is lucky not to be in jail right now. My post wasn’t racist at all, sorry.
 

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One of the leads in the Globe today (and getting big play all across NFL coverage) is the roughing the passer call that went in favor of the Bucs. Definitely not a good call but Brady is being singled out unfairly IMHO. The heightened level of protection is visible everywhere after the Tua incident - the London game and the incident where Goff bumped his chin against Mack Wilson's helmet (which I think was a worse call than one that involved Brady). Being who he is Brady is always going to get the most coverage - but we're going to see a season of coddled QB's like no other methinks.
 

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I love that it's somehow a black mark against Brady that he gets these calls. Every player will take a call like that.
 

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It was a ridiculous call, made worse by Brady looking to the official for a call after the tackle. It was frankly embarrassing and not surprising that Brady tried to distance himself from it after the game.
 

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It was a ridiculous call, made worse by Brady looking to the official for a call after the tackle. It was frankly embarrassing and not surprising that Brady tried to distance himself from it after the game.
I have seen the replay several times, but it stops before the play is complete (and I don't remember from watching live), but I only recall Brady kicking his leg up and slamming the ball b/c Jarrett kind of steps over him at the end, not going to the officials.
It was 100% terrible call and I have seen Brady ask for flags before, but I don't remember him doing after that play.
Do you have a link?
Probably shows how bad the call was that Brady didn't even ask for the flag (to my recollection).
 

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The weird thing is, by getting divorced she's just in for more of the same.

Divorce is complicated, but when the decision is to be with someone and let them pursue their passion and not have them around as much or not have them around at all, it feels really weird.

She knew what she was getting into when she married him.
Not saying I necessarily disagree with what you're saying here. But, in reading all the posts on these Brady-Bundchen divorce rumors, what seems to be missing is a fuller acknowledgment of what Bundchen wants beyond having her husband and kids' father be in their lives full-time and healthy. Imagine you're the owner of a highly successful chain of bars or gyms or whatever your dream is - and being unbelievably successful at it, in such a way that you're internationally famous and earn gobs of money - and you meet a woman who has a genius entrepreneurial 5- to 10-year plan and is itching to see where she can take it but needs to be put in 100 hours a week to get it done. So you say, "I love you and would love to see you achieve your dreams " and you both agree that'll you'll take yourself out of your successful business to be with the kids for 10 years (i.e, one parent is at least with them all the time) so she can achieve her dream, after which you and she will spend an equal amount time with the kids and each other. The understanding is that you can then go back part-time at least to overseeing your own successful business, which is being put on hold because you want to support your wife. Say in 10 years she achieves her dreams and then some, but then says she needs to do an MBA because she can be even more successful. And you agree because you love her and don't want your kids to be left fully alone, but you do tell her, a few times, that you'd like to have her more present after that because the kids are growing up and you’ve put off your own successful career for 10 years (as agreed). After she gets her MBA, she does what you've both agreed and you're ready to co-paret and go back to what you loved doing before. After six months, she says she's got to return to work full-time because her business is going so well and she can't sleep or eat for being so anxious about her business. Not only that, she's gone behind your back and gotten her old CEO position back and needs to go into the work the next day. The decision is made without your input. You can't go back to doing what you loved, even part-time, because again you don't want the kids to not have any parents around.

It's a shitty analogy, I know, but you can see where I'm going with it. Your wife shifted the goal posts - and there's no telling if she's going to shift them even more in the future (in Bundchen's case, we don’t know how many times, if any, the goal posts were shifted previous to Brady’s un-retirement).

What I'm trying to get at - badly - is that, at least from what I've read in this forum, Bundchen is mostly seen as someone who only wants Brady back because he's not around the family enough and/or she's worried about his health. All justifiable reasons and much discussed. But what I've not seen - if I'm wrong here, please feel free to correct me - is that she's put her own phenomenally successful career on hold for 12 years, a career that she loved if she hadn't made the choice to support Tom's dream. Yes, it was her choice. But imagine interrupting your own mind-blowingly successful career at your peak, with the understanding that you and your spouse would more mutually support each other after your spouse gets 12 years to live out his NFL dream (which any reasonable person would expect to end at least by his mid-forties if not earlier), after which you can resume, even part-time, that successful career. Yes, it's really only for 6 months a year that she has to put up with his almost total absence and his total focus on something other than his family. But by most accounts he's also known for still focusing on his other enterprises, be it TB12 or other football-related ventures, during the off-season. As one poster said above, I don't think she ever thought she was marrying a man who is literally addicted to football and "tormented" by his love for it. I read an interview with her in which she talks about the plans and dreams about returning to at least some semblance of her career when Tom retired. She doesn't bad-mouth Tom, in fact she says everyone deserves to live out their dreams. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/09/gisele-bundchen-says-shes-ready-to-work

This is a long way of saying that I agree more with Ralphwiggum's post than FL4WL3SS’s response to it, but with an emphatic acknowledgment that Bundchen has sacrificed much more than just fearing for Tom's health or missing his company for six months (or more) a year.

Edit: Also, I find the humorous posts in this thread quite refreshing.
 
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Not saying I necessarily disagree with what you're saying here. But, in reading all the posts on these Brady-Bundchen divorce rumors, what seems to be missing is a fuller acknowledgment of what Bundchen wants beyond having her husband and kids' father be in their lives full-time and healthy. Imagine you're the owner of a highly successful chain of bars or gyms or whatever your dream is - and being unbelievably successful at it, in such a way that you're internationally famous and earn gobs of money - and you meet a woman who has a genius entrepreneurial 5- to 10-year plan and is itching to see where she can take it but needs to be put in 100 hours a week to get it done. So you say, "I love you and would love to see you achieve your dreams " and you both agree that'll you'll take yourself out of your successful business to be with the kids for 10 years (i.e, one parent is at least with them all the time) so she can achieve her dream, after which you and she will spend an equal amount time with the kids and each other. The understanding is that you can then go back part-time at least to overseeing your own successful business, which is being put on hold because you want to support your wife. Say in 10 years she achieves her dreams and then some, but then says she needs to do an MBA because she can be even more successful. And you agree because you love her and don't want your kids to be left fully alone, but you do tell her, a few times, that you'd like to have her more present after that because the kids are growing up and you’ve put off your own successful career for 10 years (as agreed). After she gets her MBA, she does what you've both agreed and you're ready to co-paret and go back to what you loved doing before. After six months, she says she's got to return to work full-time because her business is going so well and she can't sleep or eat for being so anxious about her business. Not only that, she's gone behind your back and gotten her old CEO position back and needs to go into the work the next day. The decision is made without your input. You can't go back to doing what you loved, even part-time, because again you don't want the kids to not have any parents around.

It's a shitty analogy, I know, but you can see where I'm going with it. Your wife shifted the goal posts - and there's no telling if she's going to shift them even more in the future (in Bundchen's case, we don’t know how many times, if any, the goal posts were shifted previous to Brady’s un-retirement).

What I'm trying to get at - badly - is that, at least from what I've read in this forum, Bundchen is mostly seen as someone who only wants Brady back because he's not around the family enough and/or she's worried about his health. All justifiable reasons and much discussed. But what I've not seen - if I'm wrong here, please feel free to correct me - is that she's put her own phenomenally successful career on hold for 12 years, a career that she loved if she hadn't made the choice to support Tom's dream. Yes, it was her choice. But imagine interrupting your own mind-blowingly successful career at your peak, with the understanding that you and your spouse would more mutually support each other after your spouse gets 12 years to live out his NFL dream (which any reasonable person would expect to end at least by his mid-forties if not earlier), after which you can resume, even part-time, that successful career. Yes, it's really only for 6 months a year that she has to put up with his almost total absence and his total focus on something other than his family. But by most accounts he's also known for still focusing on his other enterprises, be it TB12 or other football-related ventures, during the off-season. As one poster said above, I don't think she ever thought she was marrying a man who is literally addicted to football and "tormented" by his love for it. I read an interview with her in which she talks about the plans and dreams about returning to at least some semblance of her career when Tom retired. She doesn't bad-mouth Tom, in fact she says everyone deserves to live out their dreams. https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/09/gisele-bundchen-says-shes-ready-to-work

This is a long way of saying that I agree more with Ralphwiggum's post than FL4WL3SS’s response to it, but with an emphatic acknowledgment that Bundchen has sacrificed much more than just fearing for Tom's health or missing his company for six months (or more) a year.
Certainly possible. She has sacrificed a hell of a lot for him. Her profession is also driven by physical appearance and she willingly gave away her 30s and some of her early 40s for him. We all know the challenges that aging women actresses have in Hollywood. Some of that has to be prevalent in the modeling industry. She was also making more money than him by all accounts. So, there are plenty of valid arguments for her to be upset and/or resentful. It’s also possible that she isn’t angry but that the arrangement simply isn’t working for her anymore.

Of course, there could certainly be more stuff going on beyond all of this. She also knew some of what she was getting into but I doubt 2009 Gisele thought there was any chance in hell of Brady playing into his mid-40s given historical precedent. Shit, she may be more pissed at Alex Guerrero than him (not serious).
 

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I have no source, and can't link anything, and have only heard this once.
Last week on the radio, whoever the guy was said that Giselle is pissed because her and TB made the decision for him to retire together, and that he made the decision to unretire on his own.
Again, I have no idea how true that is, but if it is true, I can't say that I blame her.
 

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I have no source, and can't link anything, and have only heard this once.
Last week on the radio, whoever the guy was said that Giselle is pissed because her and TB made the decision for him to retire together, and that he made the decision to unretire on his own.
Again, I have no idea how true that is, but if it is true, I can't say that I blame her.
I mean, if true....couples have divorced for less.
 

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I love that it's somehow a black mark against Brady that he gets these calls. Every player will take a call like that.
It is amazing to me how good the NFL is as using Brady to distract from the whole "killing our players" with shots to the head problem. I will never be convinced deflategate wasn't used as a way to distract from the concussion/Ray Rice press. I made a graph, maybe on another website about how google news mentions of NFL+concussion declined to almost nothing after deflategate began.

A week ago most NFL fans were reacting to how Tua looked like he may die, and here we are this week later talking about how the QBs are babied. I am not sure the NFL is so good at PR, but for sure after Tua they were instructed to call it too tight rather than let another QB get crushed.

The NFL basically said. "This is what QBs not getting head injuries looks like! Happy now?" And the public went "BRING BACK THE VIOLENCE! WE REALLY HAVE NEVER CARED ABOUT THE PLAYERS THANKS FOR REMINDING US!!!"
 
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It is amazing to me how good the NFL is as using Brady to distract from the whole "killing our players" with shots to the head problem. I will never be convinced deflategate wasn't used as a way to distract from the concussion/Ray Rice press. I made a graph, maybe on another website about how google news mentions of NFL+concussion declined to almost nothing after deflategate began.

A week ago most NFL fans were reacting to how Tua looked like he may die, and here we are this week later talking about how the QBs are babied. I am not sure the NFL is so good at PR, but for sure after Tua they were instructed to call it too tight rather than let another QB get crushed.

The NFL basically said. "This is what QBs not getting head injuries looks like! Happy now?" And the public went "BRING BACK THE VIOLENCE! WE REALLY HAVE NEVER CARED ABOUT THE PLAYERS THANKS FOR REMINDING US!!!"
I agree with everything that you wrote here, but want to add that they already knew the answer to "happy now?" because the fans largely don't care about the players either. Frankly, I'm not sure that it's a high percentage of players that care.

Tl;dr; we suck
 

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Him and Bledsoe hanging out together seems very wholesome to me. They weren’t teammates for long, there should have been some level of regret between them but the mutual respect they publically had seems like it wasn’t all marketing
 

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I mean, the Pats practiced in the afternoon, they are flying to Cleveland today… I can’t imagine he’d let a player go to a party out of town on a Friday night, so if he maintains any sense of consistency he wouldn’t allow himself to go either. It’s not like the party was in Brookline.
 

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I mean, the Pats practiced in the afternoon, they are flying to Cleveland today… I can’t imagine he’d let a player go to a party out of town on a Friday night, so if he maintains any sense of consistency he wouldn’t allow himself to go either. It’s not like the party was in Brookline.
There are current Pats players in the picture (and Mayo).
 

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I thought this when he was inducted into the Patriot HoF, but I'm happy to see a slimmer Wilfork. You never know which way those guys are going to go once they retire, and while Wilfork's girth was fun to root for and probably made him a better player, it's nice to see him slim down a bit post-retirement.