Bruins recall David Warsofsky & Joe Morrow

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Per Mark Divver and others.

Torey Krug's absense during the 6-on-5 at the end was alarming and I'd assume one of the recalls is for him. He blocked a shot with his foot in the second period but continued to play. The other recall may be a temporary Bartkowski replacement. Julien simply doesn't trust him, and rightfully so.
 

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cshea said:
Per Mark Divver and others.

Torey Krug's absense during the 6-on-5 at the end was alarming and I'd assume one of the recalls is for him. He blocked a shot with his foot in the second period but continued to play. The other recall may be a temporary Bartkowski replacement. Julien simply doesn't trust him, and rightfully so.
 
Hopefully Krug is ok, because losing him would be crushing at this point. 
 
Losing Bartkowski is a good thing. Morrow or Warsofsky can't possibly be worse than he is. Bart is overmatched both physically and mentally, and has shown no indication of improvement. If anything, he's devolved as a player the more he plays. 
 

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It's really too bad that Bartkowski hasn't panned out.  Has all the skills that you would like to see from a guy, but just zero game awareness and a complete inability to make the plays he needs to make.
 

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Bartkowski should have been the Dman to go, not Boychuk, and that precedes Z's injury. Just a horrible decision by Chia. Bart was brutal in the playoffs last year too, no surprise that Clode doesn't trust him...
 

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Maximus said:
Bartkowski should have been the Dman to go, not Boychuk, and that precedes Z's injury. Just a horrible decision by Chia. Bart was brutal in the playoffs last year too, no surprise that Clode doesn't trust him...
 
Trading Bartkowski wouldn't have cleared enough money under the cap. Who else are you trading? Nobody wants Kelly and his $3 million cap hit next year. Campbell was hurt and missed camp. Paille is a key guy on the PK. Nobody wanted the Bruins shitty contracts or slighlty overpaid veteran role guys so they had to trade a good player to get under the cap. It happens after a year when they went "all in" for a cup like they did last year with the Iginla contract and the subsequent cap overage. We all rightly applauded the aggressive move to try and win a championship. It didn't work and now they're paying for it. It happens. Personally, I'd rather see exactly what they have in the young defensemen this year then play a 31 year old UFA 30 minutes a night to maybe finish 2nd in the division instead of in the wild card. Maybe some of these kids actually pan out and the team will be better in the post season for it.
 

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Maximus said:
Bartkowski should have been the Dman to go, not Boychuk, and that precedes Z's injury. Just a horrible decision by Chia. Bart was brutal in the playoffs last year too, no surprise that Clode doesn't trust him...
 
 
Does Bart make upwards of $3 mil year?
 

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cshea said:
B's announce Krug broke a finger and is out 2-3 weeks.
oh, boy. At least they have a couple of reasonable short term substitutes in Warsofsky and Morrow; unlike with Chara.

As for Bart, he played pretty well last year, so we know he has it in him. I think the failure to develop guys like Bart is an organizational weakness. Or he just plain sucks. But that doesn't fit with last year.
 
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Bartkowski should have been the Dman to go, not Boychuk, and that precedes Z's injury. Just a horrible decision by Chia. Bart was brutal in the playoffs last year too, no surprise that Clode doesn't trust him...
Even if you forget the salary, Bartkowski wouldn't have netted anything in return.
 

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Maximus said:
Bartkowski should have been the Dman to go, not Boychuk, and that precedes Z's injury. Just a horrible decision by Chia. Bart was brutal in the playoffs last year too, no surprise that Clode doesn't trust him...
Do you really think that Chia chose Bart over Boychuk? B's currently have less than $2.4 million in cap space. Boychuk's cap hit is $3.4. Trading Bart and his $1.25 hit and keeping Boychuk would have left no roster flexibility.

The Boychuk trade is becoming the Bruins version of why did Payton sign here.
 

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Trading Bartkowski wouldn't have cleared enough money under the cap. Who else are you trading? Nobody wants Kelly and his $3 million cap hit next year. Campbell was hurt and missed camp. Paille is a key guy on the PK. Nobody wanted the Bruins shitty contracts or slighlty overpaid veteran role guys so they had to trade a good player to get under the cap. It happens after a year when they went "all in" for a cup like they did last year with the Iginla contract and the subsequent cap overage. We all rightly applauded the aggressive move to try and win a championship. It didn't work and now they're paying for it. It happens. Personally, I'd rather see exactly what they have in the young defensemen this year then play a 31 year old UFA 30 minutes a night to maybe finish 2nd in the division instead of in the wild card. Maybe some of these kids actually pan out and the team will be better in the post season for it.
They could have, and arguably should have used their compliance buyouts on Campbell and Kelly. 
 

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Chris Kelly was not eligible for a compliance buyout. He was hurt during the buyout window and you can't buyout an injured player.
 

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Not to mention he's basically been one of their best forwards this year, and is playing on the most effective line right now. I will never understand the Kelly hate. When healthy, he is a valuable and productive player who isn't making that much compared to the open market.
 
Salem's Lot has it about right. They went for it last year and it's costing them now. They also have a LOT of money tied up in their top 3 players, which hadn't always been the case. I disagreed with the Boychuk trade at the time because I thought it critically weakened their defense and absolutely nothing I've seen so far this year has convinced me that's not the case. This is not a good D core, now it's even worse with injury. All of that said, I'm not sure what other choice Chiarelli had. Only hope would have been trade both Bartkowski and McQuaid. That would have been my preferred course of action, but I doubt there was any market for them.
 

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cshea said:
Chris Kelly was not eligible for a compliance buyout. He was hurt during the buyout window and you can't buyout an injured player.
Ditto Campbell.

Easiest solution for me would have been to trade Bart and waive Campbell. I believe a cellar dweller would have claimed him.
 

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Julien shook up his practice lines:

LKG ( intact)
Kelly-Bergeron-Gagne
Marchand-Soderberg-Eriksson
Paille-Campbell-Smith/Fraser

Fraser later took Marchand's place on the third line. (Marchand left practice early.)
 

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Chris Kelly was not eligible for a compliance buyout. He was hurt during the buyout window and you can't buyout an injured player.
Last year, sorry. Both were predictably poor contracts that they should have jumped at the chance to get out of. Or maybe the two had some value before their crummy 13-14 seasons and could have been dealt for something.
 
But they were bottom-6er glue guys on a Cup team 3 years ago, so they're irreplaceable.
 

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But they were bottom-6er glue guys on a Cup team 3 years ago, so they're irreplaceable.
Yup, irreplaceable just like Thornton, Peverley, Ryder, Seguin, etc. Gotta hang on to all those bottom 6 guys from that team.
 
But we can ignore the fact that buying them out before last season would have left the Bruins with exactly 2 NHL centers. Soderberg was a complete unknown and it's pretty obvious that Spooner would not have been remotely ready for the NHL last year (and still isn't this year). Not sure how exactly that was expected to play out if they cut $4 mill worth of centers and have no one to replace them with at the time, in a year they were clearly going all in for the Cup.
 
Not to mention Campbell was coming off a broken leg and STILL wasn't eligible to be bought out. These facts are stubborn things, you know.
 

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Toe Nash said:
Last year, sorry. Both were predictably poor contracts that they should have jumped at the chance to get out of. Or maybe the two had some value before their crummy 13-14 seasons and could have been dealt for something.
 
But they were bottom-6er glue guys on a Cup team 3 years ago, so they're irreplaceable.
 
You're saying they should have bought out both guys after 1 half season of 3 year contracts?
 
edit: also what T4P said
 

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Last year, sorry. Both were predictably poor contracts that they should have jumped at the chance to get out of. Or maybe the two had some value before their crummy 13-14 seasons and could have been dealt for something.
 
But they were bottom-6er glue guys on a Cup team 3 years ago, so they're irreplaceable.
Maybe you felt that way at the time, but in general it's a lot of revisionist history to claim those were predictably bad contracts.   Kelly was coming off a 20 goal season.  $3M a year was a good rate for a player at his level.  Joel Ward had gotten a $3M annual value contract the year before as an FA after putting up a 10 goal 19 Assist year. The general thought was also that the cap would increase enough that they could avoid a major cap bind.  It also stands to reason that the center depth we all assume was there with Spooner and Koko was more of a concern to the FO.  I would assume that a buyout wasn't in their plans because maybe they realized that if Krejci or Bergy go down they have no one step up and backfill when Carl moves up to center their lines.  $1.6M for Campbell also isn't a stretch when you look at the guys playing in the league for over $2M.
 
There wasn't a lot of angst in the original thread once the numbers were known: http://sonsofsamhorn.net/topic/72699-chris-kelly-412-and-greg-campbell-348-re-sign/ 
 

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In postgame interview, Julien complimented Morrow, emphasizing that he is calm, plays his game, doesn't let things get to him, etc. (paraphrasing I don't remember the exact quote.  
 
Hmm, what Bruin defensman do we know who isn't calm, doesn't play his game, and lets things get to him?  
 
Julien's comments about Morrow seemed to me to be at least as much about Bartkowski as about Morrow...
 

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Boston Bruins General Manager Peter Chiarelli issued the following update today, November 9, on defenseman David Warsofsky: "David has sustained a groin strain and will be out 2-4 weeks."
The injury occurred during the Bruins/Oilers game on Thursday, November 6.