Bruins sign Tomas Nosek

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The 4th line has been awful for several years now. This is an attempt at improving itt. Nosek has been pretty good in that role for Vegas.
 

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You know what a good way to improve the bottom of the roster is? Adding great players who push good players down a line.
Assuming Krejci is back who exactly are you pushing down? Jake? Coyle? He's fine for what he is but they will likely need to move Wagner as he is now expendable.
 

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You know what a good way to improve the bottom of the roster is? Adding great players who push good players down a line.
Who is a great player that pushes a good players down that they could acquire? He's basically a slightly more expensive Kuraly.
 

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Third thread that I've asked the question but for all the people who want them to do more, what exactly should they be doing?
 

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Their bottom 6 is already over-crowded.

DeBrusk , Coyle, Kuhlman, Frederic, Lazar, Wagner, Lauko, Studnicka needs to make the team at some point.
Lauko doesn't need to make the team. Same about Studnicka. Neither have proven themselves to be NHL players at this point and I think are exempt from waivers. I would like them to make it and I think Bruce has generally played the best player regardless of contract. The only contracts I don't like of the above are DeBrusk, who is moveable, and Wagner, who they're stuck with.
 

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Nosek is better than all of those players except Coyle and DeBrusk.
 

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Lauko doesn't need to make the team. Same about Studnicka. Neither have proven themselves to be NHL players at this point and I think are exempt from waivers. I would like them to make it and I think Bruce has generally played the best player regardless of contract. The only contracts I don't like of the above are DeBrusk, who is moveable, and Wagner, who they're stuck with.
Sure, but the Bruins now have (we'll say 8 on your belief Lauko and Studnicka don't need to make the team) 8 players for 6 spots.

If they trade DeBrusk - great, that certainly helps. But there's been little to no smoke about him being moved outside of messageboard banter so I'm not too confident he's going anywhere.

It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic at this point by signing more 3rd and 4th line players.
 

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I dn't think that's fair. It' a little challenging to see exactly how it all fits together since it's not done but Nosek and Haula are both good bottom 6 players and the lack of good bottom 6 players really sunk this team.

I'm frustrated because I was hoping they'd figure out a way to get a LHD upgrade and they could use a top 6 RW and I don't see any path to that, but that doesn't mean they shouldnt sign Nosek.
 

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I'm frustrated because I was hoping they'd figure out a way to get a LHD upgrade and they could use a top 6 RW and I don't see any path to that, but that doesn't mean they shouldnt sign Nosek.
Well said.
 

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Sure, but the Bruins now have (we'll say 8 on your belief Lauko and Studnicka don't need to make the team) 8 players for 6 spots.

If they trade DeBrusk - great, that certainly helps. But there's been little to no smoke about him being moved outside of messageboard banter so I'm not too confident he's going anywhere.

It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic at this point by signing more 3rd and 4th line players.
It's been asked about 3 or 4 times in two threads but who should they have been signing?
 

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So...they shouldn't fill out their bottom 6? Wtf?
I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm just very worried that the moves they've made to this point are going to add up to them not being any better than they've been the last couple of years. I was hoping that the depth signings of their own guys plus Hall was going to afford them to get a difference making defenseman which was the biggest thing they needed to address. I guess silly me for thinking Sweeney had something lined up that may have surprised us. It's frustrating.
 

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Sure, but the Bruins now have (we'll say 8 on your belief Lauko and Studnicka don't need to make the team) 8 players for 6 spots.
You want more players than available spots at the bottom of the roster.
 

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I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm just very worried that the moves they've made to this point are going to add up to them not being any better than they've been the last couple of years. I was hoping that the depth signings of their own guys plus Hall was going to afford them to get a difference making defenseman which was the biggest thing they needed to address. I guess silly me for thinking Sweeney had something lined up that may have surprised us. It's frustrating.
Who?
 

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The Bruins biggest problems the past three seasons are that their 3rd and 4th lines have been awful in the playoffs. They don't play with possession, and get pushed around.

While neither Haula or Nosek is a headline signing, they do improve the bottom 6 that has been really outplayed by the best teams.
 

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Haula's a better player than Wennberg. I wanted Suter too, but who knows if he was ever really interested in coming to Boston.

Danault and Oleksiak signed pretty hefty deals.
 

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We've heard Sweeney talk over and over about depth and creating competition. There's no way they are worried about somebody like Wagner, Haula, or Nosek sitting on the 9th floor if they can't beat out somebody else. They haven't found a path to add size to the D, so the next path looks to be a 4th line that can throw the body. There are now 6-8 forwards going to camp that won't be comfortable in the least that they'll secure a spot in the opening lineup.
 

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My wish list?

Philip Danault, Jamie Oleksiak, Ryan Suter, Ryan Getzlaf, hell even Alex Wennberg would have been an interesting add.
Danault would have been nice but where does he fit if Krejci is coming back? Oleksiak was drafted by the Kraken. I wanted Suter at first too but he just got 4 years as a 36-year-old and I want nothing to do with that deal. Getzlaf as a bottom 6 C sure I can see it, but otherwise meh. I am not sure any of the available players you listed are that big of an upgrade minus Danault if Krejci stays in the Czech Republic. I suppose you could have moved Coyle to the wing too.
 

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The Bruins still have enough cap space to re-sign Krejci and a vet goalie. And they could open up more space if they can/choose to off-load DeBrusk, Wagner, Moore.

If they re-sign Krejci and like what they saw from the Hall-Krejci-Smith line then they’re looking to retool the bottom six.

Haula and Nosek are quality additions. They add some scoring potential. They are less likely to get knocked off the puck. They can play special teams. And they are 57% and 51% at the dot. Much better than Coyle, Lazar, Studnicka, and Frederic.

The current mix of players vying for bottom six spots is tilted left - it will be interesting to see who emerges from training camp and secures their places.
 

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as going to afford them to get a difference making defenseman which was the biggest thing they needed to address.
They can still do this, and these signings have zero impact on their ability to do so now or going forward.

Your issue should be with the Forbort signing.
 

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They can still do this, and these signings have zero impact on their ability to do so now or going forward.

Your issue should be with the Forbort signing.
The depth signings are what they are. They're not going to move the needle much come playoff time. If Sweeney is staying patient and waiting things out and then makes a big move , I'll be fine. But if all he does are these kinds of signings, does this put them in a better position to beat a team like Tampa or the Islanders come playoff time?
 

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The Bruins still have enough cap space to re-sign Krejci and a vet goalie. And they could open up more space if they can/choose to off-load DeBrusk, Wagner, Moore.
Just about $10m in cap space as of this moment, according to CapFriendly.

If Krejci and Rask sign, I’m not at all sure how much of that cap space will be used up. We’re pretty much done with free agency now and I assume Sweeney is starting to look at trades.

The roster as it is set now is a two-year roster. The only major UFA after 2021-2022 is Bergeron (although Rask and Krejci are question marks). McAvoy is an RFA after this year.
 

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The depth signings are what they are. They're not going to move the needle much come playoff time. If Sweeney is staying patient and waiting things out and then makes a big move , I'll be fine. But if all he does are these kinds of signings, does this put them in a better position to beat a team like Tampa or the Islanders come playoff time?
Yes, absolutely. The 4th line last year was absolute dogshit. The 3rd line was pretty dogshit too, although at least there you have an injury to the key player (Coyle) that really dragged it down. Haula, Nosek, and Lazar are all credible bottom 6 forwards that substantially improve the depth of the roster, and the ability of those bottom lines to not get completely manhandled the way that happened all too often last year.
 

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Yes, absolutely. The 4th line last year was absolute dogshit. The 3rd line was pretty dogshit too, although at least there you have an injury to the key player (Coyle) that really dragged it down. Haula, Nosek, and Lazar are all credible bottom 6 forwards that substantially improve the depth of the roster, and the ability of those bottom lines to not get completely manhandled the way that happened all too often last year.
QFT. The most recent playoffs showed that having a viable 4th line is key. That viability can come from being an all-around good unit, but it seems to me the other way to build a 4th line is to pick a tool and load up on it--size, speed, defense, etc. 4th line being heavy is clearly helpful come playoffs. Offensive output is great, but even just to wear teams down. Tampa's run was definitely aided by Big Rig and his line mates. NYI had a pretty heavy team all around. Vegas seemed pretty heavy too, but I didn't watch the West as much, but I do remember that Avs-Knights series being very physical and it clearly left Vegas worn down against the Habs. I take this as a sign the Broons are looking towards the playoffs and aren't as worried about the top 6 or D as much.