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I, along with everyone else, totally forgot about this clown. He knows this isn't a thing anymore, right?

The eagle's locker room seems like sooooo much fun right now. Find a new gag.

If it was clever or at least funny I think we'd all find it entertaining, but this is rote and dumb.
 

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I readily admit:
A. I don't know who this guy is, other than guessing he talked trash after the Eagles won the superbowl.
B. What the the "thing" that is not a thing anymore was.

In my desire for maximum enlightenment, I would accept explanations.
 

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I readily admit:
A. I don't know who this guy is, other than guessing he talked trash after the Eagles won the superbowl.
B. What the the "thing" that is not a thing anymore was.

In my desire for maximum enlightenment, I would accept explanations.
A-You are correct
B-Lane Johnson essentially said that the Eagles win AND have fun and the Patriots don't. Google: "Lane Johnson fun"
 

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Lane Johnson (not Lance) talked a lot of shit about the Patriots in the lead-up to the Super Bowl two years ago, all through that off season after they beat the Patriots. It was a little weird.

“There was obviously some stuff behind closed doors. Their owner talking s— to our owner. Bill talking s— to our head coach (Doug Pederson) before the game. I’m not going to say it, but a lot of s— kind built up to that, and I just got tired of hearing about it, man, to be honest.”

Basically, I'm not going to say something, but let me say something about something that may have happened behind closed doors and that someone told me about but that I didn't witness.

He seems to think the Patriots are arrogant and that the way the team prepares (the Patriot way) for games is too much work. He called the Patriots a fear-based organization.

“Here’s what pissed me off,” Johnson said, via ESPN’s Tim McManus. “The Patriots, obviously, I respect their coach, I respect Bill (Belichick), I respect Tom Brady, but just because the way that they won the Super Bowls, the Patriot Way, is that how everybody else is supposed to do the same thing? No, it’s not. And that’s what I got mad at, the arrogance by them."

Like, the Patriots as an organization want his team to prepare the same way that they prepare? No one in the Patriots organization gives a shit about you or how you prepare.

Most famously, though, and this is what his tweet was in reference to, he said “Not to be reckless, but I’d much rather have fun and win a Super Bowl than be miserable and win five Super Bowls. But hey, it is what it is.”
 

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Lane Johnson (not Lance) talked a lot of shit about the Patriots in the lead-up to the Super Bowl two years ago, all through that off season after they beat the Patriots. It was a little weird.

“There was obviously some stuff behind closed doors. Their owner talking s— to our owner. Bill talking s— to our head coach (Doug Pederson) before the game. I’m not going to say it, but a lot of s— kind built up to that, and I just got tired of hearing about it, man, to be honest.”

Basically, I'm not going to say something, but let me say something about something that may have happened behind closed doors and that someone told me about but that I didn't witness.

He seems to think the Patriots are arrogant and that the way the team prepares (the Patriot way) for games is too much work. He called the Patriots a fear-based organization.

“Here’s what pissed me off,” Johnson said, via ESPN’s Tim McManus. “The Patriots, obviously, I respect their coach, I respect Bill (Belichick), I respect Tom Brady, but just because the way that they won the Super Bowls, the Patriot Way, is that how everybody else is supposed to do the same thing? No, it’s not. And that’s what I got mad at, the arrogance by them."

Like, the Patriots as an organization want his team to prepare the same way that they prepare? No one in the Patriots organization gives a shit about you or how you prepare.

Most famously, though, and this is what his tweet was in reference to, he said “Not to be reckless, but I’d much rather have fun and win a Super Bowl than be miserable and win five Super Bowls. But hey, it is what it is.”
Yeah, but how does he feel about winning six Super Bowls?
 

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“There was obviously some stuff behind closed doors. Their owner talking s— to our owner. Bill talking s— to our head coach (Doug Pederson) before the game. I’m not going to say it, but a lot of s— kind built up to that, and I just got tired of hearing about it, man, to be honest.”
BB talked shit to or about the Eagles coach before the game?

I'm gonna need to see some additional supporting info on that.
 

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Patriots fans are absurdly thin skinned.
Posting about it is not crying about it. It's bye week talk on a message board.

Go spend some time on boards of other teams--the Chiefs fans think the NFL hates Mahomes. The Steeler fans think the NFL is a conspiracy to get another team to 7 titles before them. It's not one team.
 

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Just because everyone else is doing it doesn't make it any less insufferable. For the record, I am a Pats fan.
Just because you think something is insufferable doesn’t make it so. It’s light banter during a bye week. There are plenty of better opportunities to make your point than this thread.
 

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Like where? There have been like 12 posts complaining about mean things Lane Johnson said about the Patriots and how he's an idiot and sucks and clearly doesn't like winning. It's comically insecure.
 

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Like where? There have been like 12 posts complaining about mean things Lane Johnson said about the Patriots and how he's an idiot and sucks and clearly doesn't like winning. It's comically insecure.
I made the original post in a thread called Eagles Chatter. My post was about something an Eagles player said. You know, as in chatter. Chatter from an Eagles player even. A bunch of other people asked who Lane Johnson was. Clarity was provided.
 

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Like where? There have been like 12 posts complaining about mean things Lane Johnson said about the Patriots and how he's an idiot and sucks and clearly doesn't like winning. It's comically insecure.
We get it. You’re the rare, level-headed Patriots fan (thanks for the clarification). You could have easily ignored this thread. You chose not to and instead decided to play thread police. I find that to be insufferable.
 

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Where am I thread policing and saying that people should not say the things they are saying? I'm saying I find it annoying, thin skinned and believe "LOOK AT THE RINGZ!!!" is up there in terms of douchy things you can say. But go on and keep saying it. The hell I care. I apologize for having different viewpoint than many of those in this thread. I clearly just wanted to show that I am a better fan than everyone. You nailed it right on the head there. Give me all of those Internet points stat.
 

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Was he Dutch like Honus Wagner or Dutch like Jonathon Schoop?
If they saw a van in your name back then, they may have called a you a Dutchman, which van Brocklin was. Honus was actually of German heritage, like the great German composer Richard Wagner. Honus got that nickname from a Richard Wagner opera of the same name. Long two weeks here.
 

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Danny White was a QB and punter for the Cowboys. That's all I've got.
 

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If they saw a van in your name back then, they may have called a you a Dutchman, which van Brocklin was. Honus was actually of German heritage, like the great German composer Richard Wagner. Honus got that nickname from a Richard Wagner opera of the same name. Long two weeks here.
That was the joke...
 

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The Eagles are a mediocre team that is occasionally capable of punching above their weight. They won't do that against the Patriots.

The offense has gotten nothing from their starting WR so Wentz has been reduced to a game manager. Jeffery is now a mediocre 13m possession WR who dropped 3 passes last week. Agholor stinks. They signed Jordan Matthews for a 3rd time this week and he is unquestionably an upgrade. Ertz had his first good game of the year last week.

The only way they can win is by riding Jordan Howard up the middle and Miles Sanders in the James White role.
 

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Edelman finally off the list? good to see.

also any given Sunday... last time we faced the Eagles in the regular season the Pats laid a complete turd at home, part of that horrible slide that slowly cost us a Super Bowl 50 appearance...
 

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Edelman finally off the list? good to see.

also any given Sunday... last time we faced the Eagles in the regular season the Pats laid a complete turd at home, part of that horrible slide that slowly cost us a Super Bowl 50 appearance...
Thanks for the painful memories. God that game was infuriating.

OK, so here’s some more bad Eagles-related memories. When the Pats played the them at home in 2007, I took my son and his friend (they were 11 at the time) to the game. My son was a BIG Eagles fan at the time (blame it on Madden), and had brainwashed his friend to be the same. So they’re both decked out in Eagles gear. I’ve got on a Pats hat, but that’s it for team gear.

The game starts and the fans around us are more amused than anything else by my two junior Philly fans. That slowly shifts until, at some point late in the 3Q people really start to become concerned that NE could lose, and then it gets ugly real fast. Grown men are throwing hostile comments at me and the kids. My son and his friend at first think it's all a big joke but at some point realize these guys are serious, and that's about the same time I decide that we’re outta here. I grab the kids and start to leave, but even that was an adventure as drunk Pats fans were prowling the concessions area, and a couple of times I was convinced someone was going to try and rip their jerseys off.

Thank god no one did and we made it to the parking lot unscathed, and soon were on our way.

The madness of crowds at sporting events is a real thing. I don’t care what team it is.
 

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Any early word on if Harry is likely to play? Seems like the offense was finding a groove spreading out BAL. Given the Eagles defensive backs, you have to think that's in play again.
 

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Any early word on if Harry is likely to play? Seems like the offense was finding a groove spreading out BAL. Given the Eagles defensive backs, you have to think that's in play again.
Cowart actually played more snaps last game than he had all year, though that was likely Jackson related. If Cowart is active again, you would think that means that two of Olszewski, Harry and LaCosse are inactive. Maybe one if Chung can’t go.

If Olszewski starts over Harry you would think that is a very bad sign for Harry’s progress and his ability to meaningfully contribute for the rest of the year unless there is some injury situation that creates a special teams need.
 

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Thanks for the painful memories. God that game was infuriating.

OK, so here’s some more bad Eagles-related memories. When the Pats played the them at home in 2007, I took my son and his friend (they were 11 at the time) to the game. My son was a BIG Eagles fan at the time (blame it on Madden), and had brainwashed his friend to be the same. So they’re both decked out in Eagles gear. I’ve got on a Pats hat, but that’s it for team gear.

The game starts and the fans around us are more amused than anything else by my two junior Philly fans. That slowly shifts until, at some point late in the 3Q people really start to become concerned that NE could lose, and then it gets ugly real fast. Grown men are throwing hostile comments at me and the kids. My son and his friend at first think it's all a big joke but at some point realize these guys are serious, and that's about the same time I decide that we’re outta here. I grab the kids and start to leave, but even that was an adventure as drunk Pats fans were prowling the concessions area, and a couple of times I was convinced someone was going to try and rip their jerseys off.

Thank god no one did and we made it to the parking lot unscathed, and soon were on our way.

The madness of crowds at sporting events is a real thing. I don’t care what team it is.
I was in college in Philly from 1983-87. Most of my schoolmates were NY and Philly sports fans but there were a few of us from New England. I went to this game with a friend from Mass.

It was not hard to get tickets to watch two mediocre teams playing out the string. Jaws was injured so Philly fans got to watch Joe Pisarcik, while I got to watch Tony Eason. I don't remember game details other than we lost. I also don't recall any fan issues at the Vet. The teams were hardly rivals at that point.
 

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“we can’t allow that to affect us moving forward” (Slater) is an invaluable life lesson. It works both ways but is particularly redeeming after a big setback. This is key to avoiding a downward spiral, where you basically accept a negative narrative about your life and unwittingly go about fulfilling it.

All 3 SB losses were excruciating. But then again, each of the 6 SB wins could have been losses. Live, learn and move on.
 

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Curran: "... the Eagles can run it. They’ve been over 4 yards per carry in every game but two this season and ran for 364 in their last two contests against pretty stout defenses – Chicago and Buffalo."

The Ravens are simply an outlier, because Jackson is a singular threat which carries over to the run game as a whole. But they gave up 150-plus to Chubb and company the week before as well. It would behoove them to tighten the run D
 

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I really think we will see some of Gilmore on Ertz on Sunday.
It is an interesting situation (with a lack of a true deep threat for Wentz) , though I think Gilmore's speed would be wasted and he will be isolated against the weak side WR (Jeffrey/Matthews) to allow a doubles on the others on the strong side. Wentz is historically great against the blitz, so do the Pats rush 3 or 4 and play a low zone?

Edit - Matthews not Sanders
 

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Curran: "... the Eagles can run it. They’ve been over 4 yards per carry in every game but two this season and ran for 364 in their last two contests against pretty stout defenses – Chicago and Buffalo."

The Ravens are simply an outlier, because Jackson is a singular threat which carries over to the run game as a whole. But they gave up 150-plus to Chubb and company the week before as well. It would behoove them to tighten the run D
Yep. If the Eagles run successfully, they're probably going to win
 

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Curran: "... the Eagles can run it. They’ve been over 4 yards per carry in every game but two this season and ran for 364 in their last two contests against pretty stout defenses – Chicago and Buffalo."

The Ravens are simply an outlier, because Jackson is a singular threat which carries over to the run game as a whole. But they gave up 150-plus to Chubb and company the week before as well. It would behoove them to tighten the run D
Frank Gore was effective too, in one of the few games they've played where it was close enough for the opponent to try to get a running game going. The Washington team also ran effectively, though the one big run kind of skews things and that game wasn't all that close so it's hard to take much out of it.

They did pretty well against the Jets and the Giants. It's really hard to know exactly what we're dealing with here. Hopefully, the secondary continues its excellent play and allows more resources to be devoted to stopping the run, like against the Jets. Obviously, the Eagles aren't the Jets, but that's the idea anyway.
 

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Does anyone else find it surprising that we never heard anything about what happened with Malcolm Butler in the super bowl? I wouldn't expect BB to spill the beans of course. But, I do find it surprising that after all this time, no former player, no friend of MB, no former coach, no one - anywhere, ever leaked what was going on? Is that because only BB knows? That would seem a bit odd to me for two reasons, #1) is the Pats coaching situation so that no other coaches can ask a question and get an answer? It's an exaggeration, but could BB say "Brady is not starting this week" and no coach would ask for an explanation? I hope not. #2) Would MB not deserve at least some conversation as to why he wasn't playing?
 

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Does anyone else find it surprising that we never heard anything about what happened with Malcolm Butler in the super bowl? I wouldn't expect BB to spill the beans of course. But, I do find it surprising that after all this time, no former player, no friend of MB, no former coach, no one - anywhere, ever leaked what was going on? Is that because only BB knows? That would seem a bit odd to me for two reasons, #1) is the Pats coaching situation so that no other coaches can ask a question and get an answer? It's an exaggeration, but could BB say "Brady is not starting this week" and no coach would ask for an explanation? I hope not. #2) Would MB not deserve at least some conversation as to why he wasn't playing?
I suspect that will be one of those 30 for 30 things after Bill and Brady have retired... and the truth will be far less exciting than what we all have built up in our heads.
 

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I just hope it wasn't some stupid thing like MB forgot to put the right cover sheets on this defensive TPS reports. Belichick is probably my favorite coach of any sport of all time, and forever will be, but it wouldn't surprise me if he has an unreasonable stubborn side every once in awhile.