Cano Gets the Starbucks Endorsement!

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Cherington's signing of Pedroia to an 8-year, $110M deal is looking better and better by the second.
 

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Reports of Jay-Z's demise may have been greatly exaggerated.
 

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I expected him to leave all winter, but this is still a real bummer, my favorite Yankee in quite some time. 
 

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Perhaps Jay-Z is not as dumb as we all want to think.  Or maybe all these posts about Jay-Z  are simply a sideshow.
 
As amusing as this conversation is to observe, Jay-Z is nothing more than a front man in these negotiations.  He owns Roc Nation, which has a joint venture with CAA Sports.  Brodie Van Wagenen is Cano's agent.
 

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hbk72777 said:
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He won't get the amount of commercials that he would in NY. And Seattle is a long way from doing anything.
 
 
The whole marketing angle cracks me up. How much was Cano ever going to make being marketed by Jay-Z? $4M? $5M? Sounds like he is about $50M over the NYY offer. Couple that with no state income tax....Yeah...he no longer has to worry about face makeup and shooting schedules,
 
This will be so fantastic if it goes down. DVR of Francesa is an absolute must.
 

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Let him go. Griffy, Buhner, Ichiro and Johnson couldn't make the Mariners a household word. Nor did did the 116 win season. It's like Siberia for your career.
 
He won't get the amount of commercials that he would in NY. And Seattle is a long way from doing anything.
 
I've never faulted a played for getting huge money. But when it''s over so 170 million, you'd think a few million (even 20)  more isn't worth leaving for a perennial losing team.
 
Get us the corpse of Miguel Cairo
Why would he  bother with commercials if he's worth 225M 
 

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The Mariners and Robinson Cano are in agreement on a 10-year, $240MM contract, according to Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes.com (Spanish link).
 
Please let this be true.  I want Cano off the Yankees.  Then they'll have to either have a MASSIVE downgrade at 2b or use precious (and limited) prospect resources to trade for someone like Phillips, who is a good player for sure, but still not Cano at all.  
 

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I think Cashman blew this one by lowballing Cano early on.  Obviously McCann will be a huge upgrade, but overpaying Ellsbury will burn the Yankees IMO.  
 

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I think this is insane by both parties. After all those years of letting their top flight talent leave, the M's decide the big payday should go to Robinson Cano?
 

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21st Century Sox said:
The whole marketing angle cracks me up. How much was Cano ever going to make being marketed by Jay-Z? $4M? $5M? Sounds like he is about $50M over the NYY offer. Couple that with no state income tax....Yeah...he no longer has to worry about face makeup and shooting schedules,
 
This will be so fantastic if it goes down. DVR of Francesa is an absolute must.
 
Exactly. Cap'n Jetes hogged up all the MFY endorsements anyway. How often did you see Rivera or Williams or even Pettitte? It was and is all CI all the time.
 

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Amazing. Good for the Ms. When was the last time NY was outbid for a superstar free agent, let alone a homegrown true Yankee*?
 

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ThePrideofShiner said:
I think this is insane by both parties. After all those years of letting their top flight talent leave, the M's decide the big payday should go to Robinson Cano?
 
Yup.  And after overpaying to keep pretty much every FA over the last decade plus, Cano is the guy they decide to let walk over money?
 

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21st Century Sox said:
The whole marketing angle cracks me up. How much was Cano ever going to make being marketed by Jay-Z? $4M? $5M? Sounds like he is about $50M over the NYY offer. Couple that with no state income tax....Yeah...he no longer has to worry about face makeup and shooting schedules,
 
This will be so fantastic if it goes down. DVR of Francesa is an absolute must.
Yeah if only i could think of the name of that QB who played in Indianapolis and now Denver or the basketball player who was in Cleveland and is now in Miami.  I bet if they had played in NY, they would have been marketed better
 

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ThePrideofShiner said:
I think this is insane by both parties. After all those years of letting their top flight talent leave, the M's decide the big payday should go to Robinson Cano?
 
Why not Cano?  He has averaged 7.5 bWAR the past four years, making him "worth" about $37 million a season.  There aren't many 2b like him at all.  He's still young enough that he should be really, really good for the first 5 years of it anyway, and I think his skill set (batting eye, power) should translate well as he ages.  And if he gets too immobile for 2b, his bat should still play well at another position.  
 
Guy is a great, great baseball player.  It's why I want him off the Yankees.
 

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I think Cashman blew this one by lowballing Cano early on.  Obviously McCann will be a huge upgrade, but overpaying Ellsbury will burn the Yankees IMO.  
 
What? Cano was always gonna go for the money. This is an idiotic contract and they were never gonna match it.
 

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Robinson Cano and the Seattle Mariners have agreed to sign a 10-year, $240-million contract, a source told ESPNdeportes.com Friday.
The player and his agents met Thursday night in Seattle with the Mariners' top executives and the team made an offer he couldn't refuse, the source added.
The source said Cano will return to Seattle on Sunday and will undergo a physical on Monday to complete what would be the third largest contract in history, tied with the one that Albert Pujols signed with Los Angeles Angels three years ago.
 
Source
 

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MLB just showed the projected line-up for Seattle. Where are the RBI's coming from? Who's protecting Cano in the line-up.
 
I'm sure they'll sign others.
 
Plus, 31 years old with a 10 year contract, no thanks
 

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I have a Yankee-fan friend who named his son after Cano. I love the guy, but ruh-roh.
 
Did he name his son Cano? Or Robinson.
 
Because Robinson Cano was named after Jackie Robinson.
 

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ivanvamp said:
Why not Cano?  He has averaged 7.5 bWAR the past four years, making him "worth" about $37 million a season.  There aren't many 2b like him at all.  He's still young enough that he should be really, really good for the first 5 years of it anyway, and I think his skill set (batting eye, power) should translate well as he ages.  And if he gets too immobile for 2b, his bat should still play well at another position.  
 
Guy is a great, great baseball player.  It's why I want him off the Yankees.
I don't really like the contract for the Mariners, not because its Cano, but because its 10/240, but I agree completely with your last line - I'm very, very, very pleased that he won't be playing for the Yankees anymore.

The next couple FA classes are pretty crappy, especially in terms of position players, and they have nothing coming through their farm system. Their ability to add major talent over the next 2-3 years is going to be pretty limited and that works for me.
 

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hbk72777 said:
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MLB just showed the projected line-up for Seattle. Where are the RBI's coming from? Who's protecting Cano in the line-up.
 
I'm sure they'll sign others.
 
Plus, 31 years old with a 10 year contract, no thanks
 
Yeah the contract is crazy, no doubt.  But if the Mariners were going to blow their budget up, Cano is at least a great player to blow it up on.  And he's off the Yankees now, which is the most important thing.  I couldn't care less if he's on the Mariners.  
 
*Note:  I'm not in full celebration mode until this bad boy is official.  
 

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Yup.  And after overpaying to keep pretty much every FA over the last decade plus, Cano is the guy they decide to let walk over money?
 
It will be interesting to learn if they did decide this, or if they put themselves in a position where the Seattle frickin Mariners were able to be the big bidders.  Obviously, everything about the MFY cap is still murky, but if they thought that they could keep Cano w/o being the big bid and Ellsbury stopped them from coming back over the top.......that would be fantastic.  
 
It's a strange move.  I've been one of Cano's biggest detractors for some of the ways he goes about his business, but if I'm giving out megabucks it's going to be to the megaslugger.
 

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Perhaps Jay-Z is not as dumb as we all want to
 
Not you in particular--but once again the chorus sounds off here before knowing everything that's going on. It happens over and over and over and it's always amusing.
 

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Not you in particular--but once again the chorus sounds off here before knowing everything that's going on. It happens over and over and over and it's always amusing.
 
It's a messageboard, friend. We react to whatever is being reported. Perhaps you would be better suited following a newsletter.
 

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Can we appreciate the inevitable irony of (some) Yankees fans bitching about a guy going to a crappy team for top dollar?
 

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manny said:
Can we appreciate the inevitable irony of (some) Yankees fans bitching about a guy going to a crappy team for top dollar?
 
What will happen is that they will say, "Now nobody can complain about the Yankees buying a championship after this."
 

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DrewDawg said:
 
Not you in particular--but once again the chorus sounds off here before knowing everything that's going on. It happens over and over and over and it's always amusing.
 
Kind of an odd post for you to quote considering that I was making the point that Jay-Z isn't even his agent.
 
Hell, I'll be even more direct.  Everyone who made a "Jay-Z got  played..!!!" post  was essentially self-identifying as someone who doesn't understand the business of baseball.  Cano's agent - and  again, his agent is Brodie Van Wagenen,  not Jay-Z - is one of the most respected in baseball.  And he did a great job for his client.
 

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Big blow for the Yankees. It makes me feel better after Ellsbury signing with them.
Of course they will now allocate resources in pitching.
If Tanaka is posted, him landing in New York is a no-brainer. 
 

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rembrat said:
 
It's a messageboard, friend. We react to whatever is being reported. Perhaps you would be better suited following a newsletter.
 
No, you misunderstand. I love it. It really wasn't a criticism. It's like a game thread. JayZ makes demand, M's leave the room, and there's a flood of posts saying JayZ cost his guy a hundred million dollars. Then, the next morning, the M's give in.
 
Do you have a newsletter?
 
Kind of an odd post for you to quote considering that I was making the point that Jay-Z isn't even his agent.
 
 
I know, but you referenced JayZ not being as dumb as everyone was saying and this was in a new thread, so I grabbed it.
 
Hell, I'll be even more direct. Everyone who made a "Jay-Z got played..!!!" post was essentially self-identifying as someone who doesn't understand the business of baseball. Cano's agent - and again, his agent is Brodie Van Wagenen, not Jay-Z - is one of the most respected in baseball. And he did a great job for his client.
 
 
Had you been more direct, my quoting of you would have made more sense. I agree with your sentiment :)
 

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What is the most credible report of the Yankees' last offer?

I'd like to know how big the gap was.
 

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ivanvamp said:
 
What will happen is that they will say, "Now nobody can complain about the Yankees buying a championship after this."
They will say this right before the discussion of tanking the 189 limit. 
 

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TFisNEXT said:
What is the most credible report of the Yankees' last offer?

I'd like to know how big the gap was.
 
They never moved from $165-170M. I believe.
 

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Even with Cano and (presumably) Price, this is not a playoff team. El Oh El, Jack Z. This is why you don't let a lame duck GM make big decisions. 
 

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hbk72777 said:
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MLB just showed the projected line-up for Seattle. Where are the RBI's coming from? Who's protecting Cano in the line-up.
 
I'm sure they'll sign others.
 
Plus, 31 years old with a 10 year contract, no thanks
Simple.  The M's dust off the Trey Griffey contract they drew up when he was born and get him to sign on the dotted line.
 

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Every Yankee fan I spoke to, and I agree, isn't upset about this. Too much money and too long of a deal.
 
Do they find this ironic?
 

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crow216 said:
Every Yankee fan I spoke to, and I agree, isn't upset about this. Too much money and too long of a deal.
Similar to Red Sox fans and the Ellsbury deal.  It's hard for the hometown fans to get too worked up when the offer is too excessive.
 

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crow216 said:
Every Yankee fan I spoke to, and I agree, isn't upset about this. Too much money and too long of a deal.
It's just the deal length. The AAV is a shade over below what the Yankees were offering.
 
This is just mindblowing to me here - this fiscal restraint for really no good reason. The Yankees thought Cano was good enough for their plans at $25m for years 1-7, the difference in years 8-10 is going to make it so they give up on 4-5+ wins for the next few years? Just because the rest of the league doesn't like doing 10 year deals doesn't mean NYY can't; they're the one club that clearly has that option.
 
Edit: for Sherman's tweet.
 

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crow216 said:
Every Yankee fan I spoke to, and I agree, isn't upset about this. Too much money and too long of a deal.
 
But why do you guys care?  Except for this year because of the revenue sharing issue, when has a bad contract ever had an impact on future moves?  That's what I don't get about Yankee fans' opinion of stuff like this.  The reality is that it never actually matters.