Carl Soderberg traded for 6th round pick in 2016
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Disappointed to see him go. He never quite lived up to what we hoped he would be. But he was a good soldier while he was here.
I'm shocked we could get anything of value for him. His reported asking price is 5M per year. He showed flashes but his game to game consistency left a lot to be desired. This must mean COL has a trade in place for ROR who is asking for 7.5 over 8yrs.
Probably a decent amount. The stats crowds seems to love him but I just don't see him being anything more than a lower-tier second line or decent third line center.
Strange as every indication was he'd sign a 3 year deal max then head back to Sweden.
Granted, he's in the state where he can get his eye medicine
Granted, he's in the state where he can get his eye medicine
The Soderberg contract also includes a full NTC in the first 2 years and a limited NTC in the last 3 years.
I don't love the deal, but I'd rather have that deal than Krejci's.
at 5v5 last 2 years: Krejci: 1.85 p/60, 51.85 CF%, 102.9 PDO, $7.25m hit
Carl: 1.81 p/60, 52.37 CF%, 101.8 PDO, $4.75m hit
Krejci is 6 months younger. Though I think playing with Eriksson helped Carl a lot.
at 5v5 last 2 years: Krejci: 1.85 p/60, 51.85 CF%, 102.9 PDO, $7.25m hit
Carl: 1.81 p/60, 52.37 CF%, 101.8 PDO, $4.75m hit
Krejci is 6 months younger. Though I think playing with Eriksson helped Carl a lot.
Toe Nash said:
In fairness to Krejci he wasn't himself last year after the injury. I also agree Loui was really the catalyst to that line. Really hoping this means the Loui-Bergy-Marchand line comes to fruition. They just seem like the perfect shut down combination who are also all going to chip in 20-25 goals.
Let's not mince words, taking the last two years for Krejci is just cherry-picking. He played slightly more than half a season last year due to the hip injury in the first half and the leg injury in the second half. His career average CF% is 53.3 and his career points/60 mins is about .4 points higher than Soderberg's. The comparison also ignores quality of competition and zone starts. Krejci is also much better on faceoffs.j44thor said:
Krejci's deal might not be a good one anymore if the leg injuries permanently affect his game, but that remains to be seen and I wouldn't use last year's stats to make the pronouncement.
Toe Nash said:
Insanity. Paying Soderberg that much, and giving him a NTC on top of it, is horrible value.
And I agree with TSoYRRA, cherry picking the last two years is statistical torture at it's finest.
Eh in the other Soderberg thread I posted a 1 and 3 year cut of the same numbers and they weren't that much friendlier to Krejci. Also guys start to decline around age 26-28, so Krejci's early numbers probably mean less and less. It's a bad contract. But he's the core!TheStoryofYourRedRightAnkle said:
Toe Nash said:
And you were refuted by multiple poster, including myself, that again you were cherry picking data in an attempt to be "fair".
You have to measure Krejci as a whole, not just cherry pick numbers to fit your argument.
Seriously, did you watch Soderberg the last two months? He was AWFUL.