Celtic off-court discussion

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Himmelsbach wrote a piece over the weekend on the trade deadline here: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/16/sports/lets-go-it-were-not-sellers-inside-celtics-february-reconstruction-that-kick-started-their-revival/. Pretty interesting. Wyc gives himself a bunch of credit but no matter because everyone's signing Kumbaya these days.

Here's the start:
In October, Grousbeck made it clear to Stevens and Udoka that he would not judge them based on a rocky start. The Celtics were coming off a frustrating .500 campaign and had restructured their front office, coaching staff, and roster. There were going to be potholes, and it wouldn’t help anyone if they made the leaders uneasy.
“And if I was quiet then, they might wonder what I was thinking,” Grousbeck said. “But I wasn’t. I was vocal, saying that I think we have the pieces here for the long-term view. And I wasn’t making any phone calls after games going, ‘What the hell is going on?’ That’s not how I operate.”
In January, Grousbeck organized a Zoom call with Udoka and Stevens that was centered on mapping a blueprint.
Grousbeck, who rowed at Princeton, asked Udoka to name a small group of players on the roster he would want in a boat with him if he was trying to cross the Atlantic Ocean. He wanted to know who Udoka trusted, who worked the hardest, and who was irreplaceable.
“The gist was, ‘Let’s agree on what we want and what we see,’ ” Grousbeck said. “And it was me really listening to Brad and Ime. I wasn’t making suggestions or directing as much as just making sure we’re on the same page. We identified some guys we definitely didn’t want to lose, and we built around that. We wanted to add to something that didn’t feel broken.”
 

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Himmelsbach wrote a piece over the weekend on the trade deadline here: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/16/sports/lets-go-it-were-not-sellers-inside-celtics-february-reconstruction-that-kick-started-their-revival/. Pretty interesting. Wyc gives himself a bunch of credit but no matter because everyone's signing Kumbaya these days.

Here's the start:
In October, Grousbeck made it clear to Stevens and Udoka that he would not judge them based on a rocky start. The Celtics were coming off a frustrating .500 campaign and had restructured their front office, coaching staff, and roster. There were going to be potholes, and it wouldn’t help anyone if they made the leaders uneasy.
“And if I was quiet then, they might wonder what I was thinking,” Grousbeck said. “But I wasn’t. I was vocal, saying that I think we have the pieces here for the long-term view. And I wasn’t making any phone calls after games going, ‘What the hell is going on?’ That’s not how I operate.”
In January, Grousbeck organized a Zoom call with Udoka and Stevens that was centered on mapping a blueprint.
Grousbeck, who rowed at Princeton, asked Udoka to name a small group of players on the roster he would want in a boat with him if he was trying to cross the Atlantic Ocean. He wanted to know who Udoka trusted, who worked the hardest, and who was irreplaceable.
“The gist was, ‘Let’s agree on what we want and what we see,’ ” Grousbeck said. “And it was me really listening to Brad and Ime. I wasn’t making suggestions or directing as much as just making sure we’re on the same page. We identified some guys we definitely didn’t want to lose, and we built around that. We wanted to add to something that didn’t feel broken.”
Wyc thinks very highly of himself, but at least he has the wherewithal to stay out of the war room when the key basketball decisions are made.

The article did provide some good background on how the trade deadline came together on the record from Zarren. Basically they planted the seeds early for the Derrick White trade, so that when San Antonio decided that they were deadline sellers, the Celtics were ready to pounce. It's interesting that the Celtics were basically scrambling to trade Schroeder up until last minute as Houston was playing hard-to-get.
 

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Wyc thinks very highly of himself, but at least he has the wherewithal to stay out of the war room when the key basketball decisions are made.

The article did provide some good background on how the trade deadline came together on the record from Zarren. Basically they planted the seeds early for the Derrick White trade, so that when San Antonio decided that they were deadline sellers, the Celtics were ready to pounce. It's interesting that the Celtics were basically scrambling to trade Schroeder up until last minute as Houston was playing hard-to-get.
not a huge Wyc fan, he took ALL of the credit on the Net pick swap in Pierce/Garnett deal (which turned into Tatum+)

Danny never confirmed Wyc's assessment

https://www.theringer.com/2018/5/11/17346416/bill-simmons-podcast-celtics-owner-wyc-grousbeck-brooklyn-trade
 

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not a huge Wyc fan, he took ALL of the credit on the Net pick swap in Pierce/Garnett deal (which turned into Tatum+)

Danny never confirmed Wyc's assessment

https://www.theringer.com/2018/5/11/17346416/bill-simmons-podcast-celtics-owner-wyc-grousbeck-brooklyn-trade
I dunno. I always felt that Wyc was very hands on and had quite a bit to do with personnel decisions. I can’t recall the specific deal but Ainge implied one time how much Wyc was involved in this process. He does have the final say to sign off on every deal…..we just don’t know how much rope he gave Ainge or gives Brad.
 

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Nothing to do with anything, but it's about Larry Bird, so...

John Salley talking about Larry Bird (and how Luka scares folks the same way). But skip to about 2:45 for the Bird stuff.

"Sal, you better ask for the double-team bro..."

 

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The idea that Laimbeer didn't do something dirty, and intentional, here is preposterous. Salley should be embarassed for suggesting that even to defend a teammate. Bird was fully correct---Robert Parish should have gotten a medal for knocking Laimbeer out, not a suspension

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCu5rO2ETvs