Bad comp.....Dino smoked two packs a day more.Reminds me of Dino Radja. Close in height and same weight
Between Radja and Vrankovic those Celtics locker rooms must have smelled like shit!
Celtics 1st Round Selection (3rd overall): Jaylen Brown
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Between Radja and Vrankovic those Celtics locker rooms must have smelled like shit!
Yabu seems like a better shooter. I mean, I've seen him play 2 summer league games so I'm an expert on this.
Radja was close to a 7 footer with an advanced post game. He was a legit scorer. He was a wily vet rather than an explosive athlete, though he was not a bad athlete.Reminds me of Dino Radja. Close in height and same weight
I really liked Radja, especially with his history. When I watch the 30 for 30 about Divacs and Petrovic and he is interviewed I am shocked how great that Yugo team was. I mean would ateam built around Kukoc, Dino Radja, Dazen Pertovic, Vlady Divacs not be an title contender?
I feel confident in saying that Brown will end up in the range suggested....somewhere between James Young and Paul Pierce.
Seriously though, the Iguodala comp looks as good as any I have seen. Iggy shot 67% from the line and 20% from 3 his freshman year at Arizona. 38% on fg. Assist numbers are similar, though I only have a total for iggy I am guessing his assist rate would be higher abd I would also assume less turnovers (just because it would be tough to have more). Iggy had some more steals (may be slightly less relevant if it's true about steal rates being down because of Browns coach), Brown some more blocks. The size is pretty similar, and both came into the league as superior athletes.
Philly had the benefit of seeing Iguodala improve his shooting numbers as a sophomore before drafting him, but 31% from a shorter 3 point line isnt much better than Brown was as a freshman. If Jaylen can match Iggys improvement at the line (78%) he could really be onto something.
Seriously though, the Iguodala comp looks as good as any I have seen. Iggy shot 67% from the line and 20% from 3 his freshman year at Arizona. 38% on fg. Assist numbers are similar, though I only have a total for iggy I am guessing his assist rate would be higher abd I would also assume less turnovers (just because it would be tough to have more). Iggy had some more steals (may be slightly less relevant if it's true about steal rates being down because of Browns coach), Brown some more blocks. The size is pretty similar, and both came into the league as superior athletes.
Philly had the benefit of seeing Iguodala improve his shooting numbers as a sophomore before drafting him, but 31% from a shorter 3 point line isnt much better than Brown was as a freshman. If Jaylen can match Iggys improvement at the line (78%) he could really be onto something.
Great game from Jaylen Brown last night. Things that really stand out to me are
1) he definitely looks like a rookie, roaming with half an idea of where he is supposed to be. This is especially evident on defense.
2) The dude has some strong takes to the basket. He didn't really blow by people - if you watch he basically gets half a step on his defenders and muscles through them at the end. I really want to point out the drive he had on Tristan Thompson which is at 2:03 in the video. Thompson is a big dude, and Brown just uses his body to move him with a nice finish.
I am very excited about his potential, provided he can get an idea of some defensive positioning.
One other encouraging sign about JB - in the second half (the only 1/2 I got to watch), he was switched onto Kyrie a couple of times and did as good a job as anyone on the Cs in staying in front of him and making Kyrie pass the ball.
Brown leads is rookie class in scoring (that doesn't include Embiid or Saric) and FG%. I'm glad the Cs took him.
The "roaming with half an idea of where he is supposed to be" certainly stood out early, but it was to be expected as a one-and-done rookie starting his first game against the defending champs, and tasked with guarding Lebron. He just doesn't have the experience and reps, so he's thinking rather than reacting in transition and off of screens, which was causing him to be two steps slow. Trying to man up Lebron with the Cavs moving the ball and shooting as well as they were is just a ton of information to process, but he settled in a bit.
Overall, it was very encouraging. His performance, obviously, but also the fact that Stevens would play him 35 minutes in a game like this 5 games into his career, even considering the missing guys. Scouts dinged him for being laid-back at Cal, but to me it looks like he plays smart and let's the game come to him. I've cranked up my expectations for his ceiling and his floor.
Didn't see the game, but the box score (especially plus-minus) suggests JB was the best player on the floor for the C's last night. That's very encouraging, especially that JB was the 19-year old with upside on whom Danny rolled the dice instead of drafting a more polished player like Dunn or Hield. That decision is looking like the correct one.
Upside? How's this for upside: http://www.metro.us/boston/matt-burke-i-ve-seen-enough-jaylen-brown-is-the-next-kobe-bryant/zsJpjB---ftNOMcy8vXwfQ/?
Disclaimer: I have no idea who the author is and am posting this more for amusement value than serious analysis.
Jaylen is a funky player. Not super smooth like Kobe, not methodical and bull-strong like Pierce, doesn't have the handle of a Harden (when he's engaged).
But damn, he has a a nose for the hoop. He's more than just a quick first step. He can improvise but he's not rushing into the paint without a plan. He has good touch from odd places. The ability to jump out of the gym is a feature but far from being the whole package.
Oh, and his long range shooting is good—right now—when he's open receiving a kick out and squared up. Shooting off the dribble is the one thing he doesn't do yet, but he's been so efficient thus far that it's hard to complain.
Also, after hearing all kinds of makeup concerns about him being too smart or whatever, he came off his worst game and follows dit up with a beauty of a performance against the best team in the East.
Sorry, I'm buzzed and will gush about this guy until he gives reason not to.
But damn, he has a a nose for the hoop. He's more than just a quick first step. He can improvise but he's not rushing into the paint without a plan. He has good touch from odd places. The ability to jump out of the gym is a feature but far from being the whole package.
Oh, and his long range shooting is good—right now—when he's open receiving a kick out and squared up. Shooting off the dribble is the one thing he doesn't do yet, but he's been so efficient thus far that it's hard to complain.
Also, after hearing all kinds of makeup concerns about him being too smart or whatever, he came off his worst game and follows dit up with a beauty of a performance against the best team in the East.
Sorry, I'm buzzed and will gush about this guy until he gives reason not to.
Well, no posts here since Jaylen looked great vs Cleveland. Since then he has played 11 games, averaging 13 minutes with 37/27/52% shooting. To me it seems like he's sort of getting lost in the shuffle as the main rotation guys get healthy and hasn't gotten the time to find a rhythm. But it can't be a great sign that he hasn't earned more than 7:30 playing time in 3 of the last 4 games.
Brown wasn't going to see consistent rotation minutes at all if everyone was healthy from Day One. This season is part of a rookies learning curve playing behind veteran players which often is more desirable than throwing rookies into the fray unprepared. The greatest improvement a player generally makes is in their first offseason but with Brown being so young that may be pushed back to his 3rd season with a smaller leap in his second year. I wouldn't have many expectations for Brown this year aside from some glimpses here and there of what is to come which we've already got a taste of. He's still very green in understanding NBA schemes to contribute much right now.
It is worth noting one thing: he was on the floor during the great bench-led 4th quarter comeback against the Timberwolves. He wasn't an offensive presence in that game (no points, 2 rebounds, 1 assist), but he was second on the team at a +15 (in just 13 minutes).
I'm with you on all this. Patience has to be the key with a player like this and playing a kid who isn't prepared doesn't necessarily speed up the learning curve as some tend to believe. "Development" for a kid in the NBA consists probably more during his time not playing in NBA games as he cannot apply skills to his game that he doesn't yet possess.
There was a short update on Jaylen yesterday here: http://www.patriotledger.com/sports/20161127/celtics-rookie-jaylen-brown-learning-ropes-in-nba. Very excited to see Jaylen when they really let him rip. As HRB says, that may not be this season but one can always hope.
Most interesting quote (other than his body being jet-lagged all of the time):
Most interesting quote (other than his body being jet-lagged all of the time):
Even though the minutes have gone down in recent games, Brown feels he is getting better with each passing week in the NBA where he has already been matched up with LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard.
“Absolutely,’’ said Brown, the last to leave the floor following practice Saturday afternoon. “I feel like I’ve got, not even just on the court from guarding opponents, but just being here with the guys that we have like Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, etc., I’ve gotten so much better since summer league.
“I’m shooting the ball a lot better. My game, my attributes have increased. Part of you wants to get out there and just show it to everybody. You’ve just got to take your time and be patient with it and let things come when they come.’’
“Absolutely,’’ said Brown, the last to leave the floor following practice Saturday afternoon. “I feel like I’ve got, not even just on the court from guarding opponents, but just being here with the guys that we have like Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, etc., I’ve gotten so much better since summer league.
“I’m shooting the ball a lot better. My game, my attributes have increased. Part of you wants to get out there and just show it to everybody. You’ve just got to take your time and be patient with it and let things come when they come.’’