Celtics and Wizards working on Humphries sign-and-trade

DannyDarwinism

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Dan to Theo to Ben said:
3 years 13 mil.
 
Wonder what the return is, if any.
 
That's actually a decent pick-up for the Wiz at that price.  Hump is a decent enough back up big for a team with play-off aspirations.
 

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the1andonly3003 said:
please send them Bogans and Vitor too and bring back a trade exception
 
We don't need to send any players to the Wizards because they can absorb Hump using the TPE they just got from the Ariza to Houston trade.
 
The Celtics will likely get back a heavily protected 2nd rounder and a TPE of around $4.3M (i.e., the annual salary of Hump).
 

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Statman said:
 
We don't need to send any players to the Wizards because they can absorb Hump using the TPE they just got from the Ariza to Houston trade.
 
The Celtics will likely get back a heavily protected 2nd rounder and a TPE of around $4.3M (i.e., the annual salary of Hump).
Good, they can get that top 55 protected 2nd rounder they shipped out in the Cleveland deal.  (Yes, that's a joke.)
 
Getting a trade exception they can use at the deadline or next offseason could be a nice little chip to get for nothing.
 

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Woj says Celts get trade exception and protected 2nd round pick.
 

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Jesus, HRB is going to be comatose on this deal. Thoughts & prayers.
 

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saintnick912 said:
So this basically gives them a salary slot for a year without having to pay out the cash?
No.
Well I guess it could mean that, if you just phrased that weirdly.
 
A TPE, basically just means that you can trade without having to match salaries so long as you aren't combining the TPE with anything else and the player or players fit into the TPE.
 
Point being there is no "salary slot" it just means that you have an exemption from normal salary match as long as you don't receive salaries exceeding the TPE.
 

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A TPE is a "slot" in the sense that it allows you to accept above-cap salary in a trade. I don't think anyone has argued otherwise.
 

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RGREELEY33 said:
Jesus, HRB is going to be comatose on this deal. Thoughts & prayers.
Something beeped on my phone. I fell back asleep. Then had a dream Mazz kept screaming "Zeller for Humphries!! Zeller for Hunphries!! Oh Danny Boy you've outdone yourself this time!!! Heh heh heh-heh. Ya like that Michael?"
 

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The best line I've heard so far on another board.....


"Gerald Wallace is already questioning Kris Humphries Trade Exception's desire to win."
 

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Devizier said:
A TPE is a "slot" in the sense that it allows you to accept above-cap salary in a trade. I don't think anyone has argued otherwise.
Well, I've argued otherwise.  I suppose it's mostly semantics, but IMHO a TPE is better characterized as the amount of salary a team can absorb as part of a non-simultaneous trade waiting to be completed.
 

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Brickowski said:
Well, I've argued otherwise.  I suppose it's mostly semantics, but IMHO a TPE is better characterized as the amount of salary a team can absorb as part of a non-simultaneous trade waiting to be completed.
Yes, semantics. You just stated the literal definition of the TPE, not what does.

Yes, there are limitations, but TPE provides over-cap room for a player, unrelated to Bird rights, MLE, and BAE. Since it enables a team to acquire a player (or players) equivalent to its value, it can be considered, loosely, a "slot" for a future traded acquisition.

Side note: "non-simultaneous trade" is one of the least illuminating and poorest-named term I've ever heard. It doesn't actually exist the way PTBNL does in MLB. It should be called "special unbalanced trade" or something since each trade is an atomic entity.
 

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zenter said:
Side note: "non-simultaneous trade" is one of the least illuminating and poorest-named term I've ever heard. It doesn't actually exist the way PTBNL does in MLB. It should be called "special unbalanced trade" or something since each trade is an atomic entity.
I think Larry Coon made it up based on  Article 7, Section 6 (j)(1)(ii) of the CBA, which begins:  "If a team's trade of a player and acquisition of one or more Replacement Players do not occur simultaneously, then...."