Celtics sign Jabari Parker

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Going by last year’s playoff minutes, there will be 16 non Jays minutes, and 21 non Smart/Kemba minutes. If Fournier can play 30 minutes, there will be only 7 minutes for non centers, assuming TL and TT divide the center minutes.
In other words, PP gets Wanamaker's minutes from last year.
 

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Right after Cs blow out win the other night, someone filmed JP working on his shot. Love the work - and I'm no shot guru - but doesn't it seem like he could really tweak his form? Never a fan of bringing the ball behind the head with that release point plus a flat trajectory.

View: https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/1390118408100929542?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1390143889344847876%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhardwoodhoudini.com%2F2021%2F05%2F06%2Fboston-celtics-crawford-jabari-parker%2F
 

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Right after Cs blow out win the other night, someone filmed JP working on his shot. Love the work - and I'm no shot guru - but doesn't it seem like he could really tweak his form? Never a fan of bringing the ball behind the head with that release point plus a flat trajectory.

View: https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/1390118408100929542?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1390143889344847876%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhardwoodhoudini.com%2F2021%2F05%2F06%2Fboston-celtics-crawford-jabari-parker%2F
yikes, what was he 1/10 there?
 

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yikes, what was he 1/10 there?
I’ve told the story several times of Chris Wilcox, career 64% FT shooter coming off a 56% season, casually knocking down 50+ FT’s in a row in a gym one summer in Raleigh, NC. Your average NBA player is going to make 7 out of 10 of those uncontested jumpers in drills that Jabari is clanging with many not even close.
 

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yikes, what was he 1/10 there?
LOL

I'm always amazed when I watch NBA guys shoot in practice and before games with no defense, even bad shooters. I remember seeing Rondo make like 20 3s in a row like it was nothing. Tony Allen just knocking down jumper after jumper.

That brief video from Jabari may have been the worst shooting from an NBA player with no defense I've ever seen. Yikes.

Edit: HRB beat me to it. That was mind blowing from Jabari.
 

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Very rarely do I ever say “yeah, I can do that” when talking about anything a professional athlete does in their sport. I could totally do that.
 

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Damn. I was reflexively ready to defend him, thinking the shooting couldn't be that bad. I was still there until shot seven...

...Maybe that was after a bunch of sprints, and a Covid shot in each arm?
 

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LOL

I'm always amazed when I watch NBA guys shoot in practice and before games with no defense, even bad shooters. I remember seeing Rondo make like 20 3s in a row like it was nothing. Tony Allen just knocking down jumper after jumper.

That brief video from Jabari may have been the worst shooting from an NBA player with no defense I've ever seen. Yikes.

Edit: HRB beat me to it. That was mind blowing from Jabari.
That was the inaugural short lived horse tournament on all star weekend in 2010, the contest ran long so they turned the final round into a top of the key 3 point shootout between him and KD, and Rondo, a 21% 3 point shooter that year hit like 6 in a row before finally losing.
 

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That was the inaugural short lived horse tournament on all star weekend in 2010, the contest ran long so they turned the final round into a top of the key 3 point shootout between him and KD, and Rondo, a 21% 3 point shooter that year hit like 6 in a row before finally losing.
Yeah, I remember that one too.

I was referring to some pre-game shootarounds with Rondo (and others) I saw in person. So many of these guys are great shooters with no defense, even people you think of as bad shooters.

Jabari, at least in that video.....not so much. Looks like some random schlub at the local Y.
 

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It's funny because for his career he hits about 32% of his 3s, in over 600 attempts. Not good obviously, but the only NBA players who looks that bad with no defenders are guys who never shoot outside of the paint. On the Celtics that would basically be just Tacko and Thompson. Parker is nobody's idea of a 3 point ace, but he's orders of magnitude better than the type of player who would look that bad with no defenders. Hell, Ben Simmons can do better than that.
 

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Jamal Crawford: "Some who aren't at this level will say he " missed " a lot. That's exactly why he's still in there getting right. We've ALL been here. I respect it the grind. Love to see it."

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Yo Jamal. Nobody is disrespecting the grind. We are simply disrespecting him working on perfecting flawed mechanics, a flat trajectory, and horrific results. It’s like he’s practicing being bad......and doing quite well at it I may add.
 

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Yo Jamal. Nobody is disrespecting the grind. We are simply disrespecting him working on perfecting flawed mechanics, a flat trajectory, and horrific results. It’s like he’s practicing being bad......and doing quite well at it I may add.
"Some of you who aren't at this level will say he missed a lot". Well.......
 

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It's funny because for his career he hits about 32% of his 3s, in over 600 attempts. Not good obviously, but the only NBA players who looks that bad with no defenders are guys who never shoot outside of the paint. On the Celtics that would basically be just Tacko and Thompson. Parker is nobody's idea of a 3 point ace, but he's orders of magnitude better than the type of player who would look that bad with no defenders. Hell, Ben Simmons can do better than that.

People are making way too much out of a small clip. For all we know, he was trying something new with his shot and that was the result.

Also, Tristan Thompson can hit the 3 with ease in a non game situation.
 

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A couple of memories from the '50s: Heinsohn's jump shot was both from behind his head and had a flat trajectory and Big Wilt used to hit all his free throws in practice. (Damn I loved those double headers in MSG)
 

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People are making way too much out of a small clip. For all we know, he was trying something new with his shot and that was the result.

Also, Tristan Thompson can hit the 3 with ease in a non game situation.
If that was the new, I'd hate to see the old...
 

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I'll defend him. Guys go through bad stretches. He is trying to get it back. A guy will often go out an work on his worst spot, and it will be ugly. Pregame, etc, guy want confidence and will take the shots they like the most. Tha trail jumper is one where they are not giving him the ball, much and clearly he is fighting it. he is doing the footwork, etc,so it may be rough. But, that's what you have to do. You have to power through it and get it going.
 

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You can almost hear Jabari thinking "Dammit man pass it HERE". And as he walks back "I make 8 of those if the pass is even halfway decent".
 

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People are making way too much out of a small clip. For all we know, he was trying something new with his shot and that was the result.

Also, Tristan Thompson can hit the 3 with ease in a non game situation.
From that brief clip it doesn’t appear he’s trying anything different at all. Instead he’s working on muscle memory of flawed and choppy mechanics. This isn’t a clip of Lonzo or Marcus Smart when they were working on fixing their form by repeating the corrected repititions......this is a player chucking up the same problems that he’s always had. What’s the old adage? The definition of insanity is doing the same things repeatedly and expecting different results.
 

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can't hit 3s......................check
plays terrible D...............check
has a cheap option........welcome to the 2021-22 Celtics :rolleyes:
 

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With Brown now done, if we don't see an uptick in this guy's minutes, you have to be 200% sure he's in the "just passing through" category, like Wagner was.
 

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With Brown now done, if we don't see an uptick in this guy's minutes, you have to be 200% sure he's in the "just passing through" category, like Wagner was.
Parker plays a different position than Brown, so I would not expect a huge difference there.

Rob Williams being out is what will, if anything, open up minutes for Parker.
 

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Parker plays a different position than Brown, so I would not expect a huge difference there.

Rob Williams being out is what will, if anything, open up minutes for Parker.
Maybe... but Brown being out could shift Tatum down to the 3 more, opening minutes at the 4 for Parker.
 

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It would be nice for Romeo to get some added time; of course, he'll probably be in the concussion protocol until the leaves start falling again.
 

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It would be nice for Romeo to get some added time; of course, he'll probably be in the concussion protocol until the leaves start falling again.
And then a leaf falling will probably put him back in the protocol...
 

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Actually I stand corrected, Langford's active, which I'm shocked to find out. Played 3 minutes Friday end of game (the game was so awful, I turned it off; and I usually watch until the bitter end).

Sunday was DNP-CD.

I'm trying to decide whether this is good or bad. Good I guess in the sense he's healthy enough to play (or, in his case, healthy enough to get hurt again). Bad in the sense that even when down over 20 on Sunday he was not seen as worth giving a try to see what he could do; in fact, they played 3 "littles" at the same time; one of them could have been him.
 

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You mean the $500K payment at the beginning of the season? That seems like a fair amount for a three month try-out. Remember he was originally due $1.1M and then they cut him and re-signed him so they could reduce that amount.
No, I mean the rest of the season. Today is the last day you can cut a guy. After today everyone on a roster gets guaranteed through the end of the year. He'd have made 2.25M total this year, now whatever is left on it he doesn't get (probably 1M or so).
 

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No, I mean the rest of the season. Today is the last day you can cut a guy. After today everyone on a roster gets guaranteed through the end of the year. He'd have made 2.25M total this year, now whatever is left on it he doesn't get (probably 1M or so).
OK. I was confused when you said "Why pay his guarantee"? Agree that he should be cut.
 

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I think the best thing that can be said of Jabari is he seemed to understand if he played hard and showed a willingness to adapt he could resuscitate his career. Not sure if it worked, though. He'll probably get a shot somewhere else and I'll be rooting for him. Not sad he's leaving the C's however, he was below replacement in my opinion even as a deep bench player.
 
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The C’s have really botched a lot of moves over the last few seasons. Feels like they are constantly having to add pieces or picks to get rid of mistakes. Assume that happens next with Juancho, who is making $7M and averaging 1/1/0. The Celtics roster beyond the top 3-4 guys has to be among the worst in the league.
 

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The C’s have really botched a lot of moves over the last few seasons. Feels like they are constantly having to add pieces or picks to get rid of mistakes. Assume that happens next with Juancho, who is making $7M and averaging 1/1/0. The Celtics roster beyond the top 3-4 guys has to be among the worst in the league.
the top 8 for the Celtics is quite good, all playoff team starter or borderline starters at some point, plus rookie deal guys. The Celtics are actually pretty deep by NBA standards, the last 3 guys on most rosters aren't good. Like Hernangomez... he has played under 100 minutes for us despite the COVID-pocalypse. He was a rotation player and sometime starter playing 17-19 MPG for MIN and DEN. The problem is we have a bunch of mediocre rookie deal guys taking up roster spots and we're always trying to re-set the tax, or open cap space so we shuffle the bottom and pay to get off salary.
 

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If the top 8 is quite good and we have two stars….why is the team….not good? Tatum is an excellent player having a not so great year. Brown is very good, but not as good as we want or need him to be. Williams, and Horford are useful but flawed and not ready for prime time / past their prime… Smart and Schroder have their moments but are pretty fungible (and Smart particularly has been awful). I don’t really think much of anyone else on the roster at this point. Just seems like the team is totally reliant on a few players and when those guys aren’t playing or aren’t playing well, there’s no chance to steal a win. And through poor offseason decisions and lack of development, they are in the same place as they were a year ago.

I mean, the greatest success story is Grant Williams, who is putting up 7/3/1…a year after putting up 5/3/1. The leap he’s made from last year is basically 2 more points and 5 more minutes a game.
 

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If the top 8 is quite good and we have two stars….why is the team….not good? Tatum is an excellent player having a not so great year. Brown is very good, but not as good as we want or need him to be. Williams, and Horford are useful but flawed and not ready for prime time / past their prime… Smart and Schroder have their moments but are pretty fungible (and Smart particularly has been awful). I don’t really think much of anyone else on the roster at this point. Just seems like the team is totally reliant on a few players and when those guys aren’t playing or aren’t playing well, there’s no chance to steal a win. And through poor offseason decisions and lack of development, they are in the same place as they were a year ago.

I mean, the greatest success story is Grant Williams, who is putting up 7/3/1…a year after putting up 5/3/1. The leap he’s made from last year is basically 2 more points and 5 more minutes a game.
The obvious answer is...
We're deep but our 3rd best player isn't that good. Also, this team plays as less than the sum of it's parts because a bunch of guys are solid role players who all have the same weaknesses (they can't shoot 3s, and none of them is all that good at running and offense), and at least 1 of our 2 stars can't run offense. So after the Jays we have probably 6 guys than most teams would love to have one of in their top 6, but not their top 3.
 

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the top 8 for the Celtics is quite good, all playoff team starter or borderline starters at some point, plus rookie deal guys. The Celtics are actually pretty deep by NBA standards, the last 3 guys on most rosters aren't good. Like Hernangomez... he has played under 100 minutes for us despite the COVID-pocalypse. He was a rotation player and sometime starter playing 17-19 MPG for MIN and DEN. The problem is we have a bunch of mediocre rookie deal guys taking up roster spots and we're always trying to re-set the tax, or open cap space so we shuffle the bottom and pay to get off salary.
PBS had 2 small botched moves this summer/fall:
1. selecting Jabari over Mathews for #15
2. trading TT for Fernando >>> Hernangomez instead of just taking Delon Wright
 

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PBS had 2 small botched moves this summer/fall:
1. selecting Jabari over Mathews for #15
2. trading TT for Fernando >>> Hernangomez instead of just taking Delon Wright
Probably. I think they just wanted the pick, expiring and TPE to use in trades, but I am also a Wright fan and think he'd be a better fit here than Schroder
 

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“Parker showed scoring ability”??? Really?
He kind of did - along with his full range of limitations.
The obvious answer is...
We're deep but our 3rd best player isn't that good. Also, this team plays as less than the sum of it's parts because a bunch of guys are solid role players who all have the same weaknesses (they can't shoot 3s, and none of them is all that good at running and offense), and at least 1 of our 2 stars can't run offense. So after the Jays we have probably 6 guys than most teams would love to have one of in their top 6, but not their top 3.
The weird part of this paragraph is that a lot of it would apply to all of the Brad Stevens Celtic teams after his first year coaching.