CFB 2021 Bowl SZN Week 3: Birmingham > New Year's Six

Possibly. I think the current format actually does a good job of identifying the best team in the country most years. If that is the goal it probably is not broken.

But if we want more upset potential or at least more entertainment along the way then I agree the more you make it look like the basketball tournament the more it mirror that tournament.
FWIW, I'm at the point where I'm more interested in seeing more good college football games than I am to award the best team in the country the national championship. But others' mileage may vary.
 

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One of the biggest issues with the current playoff structure is that the long gap between the end of the regular season (plus conference championship games) and the playoffs is that it would tend to heavily favor the favorites. Not only can the better coaches often scheme up better gameplans, the underdogs are often more likely to be more nervous, and less used to the the pressure cooker environment of the playoffs. And that's probably even more true in the current era where even the big bowl games are largely treated as afterthoughts by most players - the gap between bowl game intensity and playoff intensity is massive for players who have never been there before. So the rich (e.g., SEC teams) get richer, and newbies crashing the party are that much less likely to make an impact.

This is one of the reasons a 12-team or even 16-team playoff would be so much better (for me, at least) than the current 4-team format. For one thing, you'd wind up getting a bunch of interesting games with real stakes between teams outside the top 4 - games like this year's Notre Dame vs. Oklahoma State or Ohio State vs. Utah would feel part of the playoff puzzle, ratther than an afterthought. For another, even a team like #1 Alabama would only have one week to prepare for most of their games, and they'd have to keep their intensity up week after week to win the title. And more generally, every team would remain much more in their normal rhythms; the big gap we currently have between games would cease to exist. All of this would surely lead to more competitive football than we're seeing in most playoff years, wouldn't it?
Agree. If some of the games tomorrow mattered it would be a lot better. OF course it would like Bama plays Ole Miss again, who BAma dominated by 21.

Maybe the final 4 would be the same, but giving 4 other teams a chance and not taking a huge break would be great. Of course, then you have to overcome the 'academic' break over Xmas or something

Overall agree, the games tomorrow will be nice laying on the couch avoiding Omicron, but they have no takes. Does Pickett sit out for Pitt if they were the 6th seed as ACC champ?
 

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They need to have a third place game between Michigan and Cincy so ConiP can see a good game
 
Does Pickett sit out for Pitt if they were the 6th seed as ACC champ?
My point exactly.
They need to have a third place game between Michigan and Cincy so ConiP can see a good game
I think UGA is going to play a lot better against Bama in the title game than they did last time. (But I could be wrong, of course.)
 

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FWIW, I'm at the point where I'm more interested in seeing more good college football games than I am to award the best team in the country the national championship. But others' mileage may vary.
I think some years you would definitely get that. But it might sometimes be at the expense of a good championship game if you had a bracket busting upset on one side. You might get a national championship be 50-10. I do think it would be like the basketball tournament, which is often awesome.
 

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So the stupid coaches would do better if they only get a week to prepare for the smart coaches? I thought if you give a team a month to prepare, even a meathead coach could come up with a good game plan.
 
I think some years you would definitely get that. But it might sometimes be at the expense of a good championship game if you had a bracket busting upset on one side. You might get a national championship be 50-10. I do think it would be like the basketball tournament, which is often awesome.
Sure, but we've had plenty of clunkers in the title game in the current system: 42-20, 44-16, 42-25, 52-24. (Those are the scores of four of the seven playoff finals we've had so far.) I also think you get more upsets - and closer games, period - when teams aren't able to focus all of their attention on one game over an extended period of time. Which, coincidentally, is how college football is normally played, and is certainly how college football is played when it's at its best.
 
So the stupid coaches would do better if they only get a week to prepare for the smart coaches? I thought if you give a team a month to prepare, even a meathead coach could come up with a good game plan.
You would think that, but experience - just looking at regular season results vs. playoff/BCS results - would tend to suggest otherwise.
 

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I find it very easy to believe that the benefit of coaching is greater the longer you have to prepare/practice/adjust.

Saban (with lots of talent advantage to begin with) also with weeks to get ready is almost unfair.
 

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My point exactly.

I think UGA is going to play a lot better against Bama in the title game than they did last time. (But I could be wrong, of course.)
Ya we agree. The Pitt MSU maybe goes different (ya they may have been 9-10 and out of the top 8) but point stands, The "holiday break" is a sham meant to reinforce 'academics' matter. Most of these schools are done with finals before or at the same time as these games. The players have basically 4-6 weeks off after early Dec. Just play top 8 tourney.

Now of course the counter, is well schools make more money of these kids. Which I get. But if the kids started getting some of that money then well...
 

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National Title Game rematches from the regular season:

1996: Florida defeats FSU 52-20 after losing the regular season meeting on the road 24-21.

2011: Alabama defeats LSU 21-0 after losing at home in the regular season 9-6.

Both games were blowouts in the Sugar Bowl.

Any others?
 

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I’m disappointed that Michigan scored a touchdown
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Georgia is pretty deep at RB
 

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Kind of rough that Disney is making Herbie and Fowler go to Pasadena from Miami rather than New Orleans given the geography and game times.
Game in less than 18 hours and they have to fly 5 hours.
 

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Fowler gets to call the Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl, Week 18 NFL game with playoff implications, National Title Game and gets to spend 2+ weeks in Australia calling the Australian Open over the next 30 days.
 

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Kind of rough that Disney is making Herbie and Fowler go to Pasadena from Miami rather than New Orleans given the geography and game times.
Game in less than 18 hours and they have to fly 5 hours.
Probably stuck in middle seat on a Frontier flight! Poor guys
 

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What an utterly uninteresting night of football that was. And yet another effing SEC title game in 10 days. CFB really is 2 sports: a riveting regular season, and increasingly boring, predictable playoff. And I’m not sure it’s fixable.
 

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Nobody can argue that Alabama and Georgia aren't the two best teams in college football this year, but man I feel like college football was the big loser yesterday. Once again we're getting an all SEC title game for the 3rd time in a decade and the semifinals were a snooze fest. The SEC is just so much better than the other conferences it is killing the national appeal of the sport I feel. The lack of parity, instant transfers, and apathy about bowls are grinding down what made college football so special. College football seemed to be at its peak from 1990-2010 or so where you had solid geographic conferences and some aspect of parity. Look at titles by conference during that time span and it's much more interesting than today.

1990: GT/Colorado
1991: Miami/Washington
1992: Alabama
1993: FSU
1994: Nebraska
1995: Nebraska
1996: Florida
1997: Nebraska/Michigan
1998: Tennessee
1999: FSU
2000: Oklahoma
2001: Miami
2002: Ohio State
2003: LSU/USC
2004: USC
2005: Texas
2006: Florida
2007: LSU
2008: Florida
2009: Alabama
2010: Auburn

Titles:
SEC 8.5
Big 12 (8): 4.5
Pac 12 (10) 2.5
ACC 2.5
Big East 1.5

Plus you had lots of teams in the national title discussion that today would struggle to be part of it: VT (1999), K-State (1998), UCLA (1998), WVU (1993 and 2007) and I know there are more than that, these just came to mind quickly. I feel like we're entering a world only a handful of teams can even be in the discussion anymore and long term it will be harmful to the product.
 

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Bad incompletion for OKST called, ate an intentional grounding on ND, now a terrible roughing call on OKST.

OKST isn’t playing great, but they’re also getting destroyed by medium to high lev bad calls.
 

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Woo Pig! Beautiful day here in Tampa for a bowl victory. Been a while since I've seen the Hogs win a bowl.