Chargers Game Goat Thread

jsinger121

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The usual suspects

Mayo
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The entire defense outside of Gonzalez
 

lexrageorge

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Worst roster in the NFL by far. Both sides of the ball are bereft of talent. Only Maye and Gonzalez and Henry and perhaps Onwenu would be starters on an average team. Everything needs to be seen through that lens.
 

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The Patriots players
The Patriots coaches
The Patriots management
The Patriots ownershit
The Boston media
The Patriots fans
 

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It's Kraft, that's so blatantly obvious now. From not letting BB trade Mac, to firing BB and not learning to work with him, to hiring Mayo and Wolfe. The whole thing stinks. I never thought I'd say this, but sell the team.
 

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We’ve got exactly two players worth getting excited about, and they both suffered head injuries in the 1st half. That kind of day.

Can always go wide with the game goats, but let’s keep it simple:

OL
DL

The OL couldn’t hold up for shit on any obvious passing down, and the DL couldn’t even pretend to bother Herbert. Nearly impossible to lose the battle in the trenches this decisively and have a shot to win the game, regardless of what else happens.
 

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"Let's look at this thing from a... um, from a standpoint of status. What do we got on the team that's good?"
 

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The Pats traded with LAC and moved back in the draft and LAC got McConkey. The Pats got Polk. 960 yards versus 87.

That trade, this team, the coaches, the fool owner, management, every person who had anything to do with this roster, and Belichick are all goats.
 

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The Pats traded with LAC and moved back in the draft and LAC got McConkey. The Pats got Polk. 960 yards versus 87.

That trade, this team, the coaches, the fool owner, management, every person who had anything to do with this roster, and Belichick are all goats.
Who's to say McConkey wouldn't be the guy with 87 yards if he were here? The organization is that fucking bad right now.
 

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I'll just never really understand why they hired retreads everywhere except Mayo, but especially with Wolf. What is the thought process behind it

It's going to be hard to even pay attention to the team in the offseason if they don't make significant moves in the front office. I want Mayo gone, but Wolf should be fired as soon as the year ends.
 

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I'll just never really understand why they hired retreads everywhere except Mayo, but especially with Wolf. What is the thought process behind it

It's going to be hard to even pay attention to the team in the offseason if they don't make significant moves in the front office. I want Mayo gone, but Wolf should be fired as soon as the year ends.
Why? It’s because Mayo has zero connections in the league to build a staff.
 

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Why? It’s because Mayo has zero connections in the league to build a staff.
Mayo isn't the reason the team did nothing during free agency then had a swing and a miss in the draft. Mayo sucks but there's enough suck to go around between coaching and management.
 

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Appropriate that the team’s main postgame show is sponsored by a garbage company.

Reiss was really going in on Mayo, he’s been surprisingly vocal for a few weeks when I’ve heard him on the radio. Zolak was carefully parsing his words but you can read between the lines.

All they’re doing is wasting time. Black Monday, burn it all down.
 

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Just a sad sack showing all around.

It's kind of astonishing seeing the disparity between the slate of good to very good NFL teams and this mangy and godforsaken gaggle. I've wanted to believe in Mayo all along, but this makes two of the last three games when they've looked flat, unprepared, and badly overmatched, first by a half-decent Cardinals team and a solid, well-coached Chargers squad. And they could only manage a competitive half against Buffalo last week.

Time to blow it up. Toss a bundle of cash at Ben Johnson or Vrabel (and McDaniels). Can they give Brad Holmes a bigger and better title than GM to potentially lure him here? What bout Ray Agnew? Could they/would they do something similar for Jason Licht--or a talented assistant GM from any of the league's better teams? As currently constituted, they are a particularly dark horror show, with Maye and Gonzales vying to be the Final Girl...
 

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I'll just never really understand why they hired retreads everywhere except Mayo, but especially with Wolf. What is the thought process behind it

It's going to be hard to even pay attention to the team in the offseason if they don't make significant moves in the front office. I want Mayo gone, but Wolf should be fired as soon as the year ends.
I wonder if the Krafts were just praying they would be better this year with the retreads, then they could shit on Bill some more.
 

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The Patriots defense is bad at tackling.

The Patriots OL is bad at blocking, though I guess Strange was OK in his debut at C.

Maye was 7-8 at one point but then went 5-14 with 4 sacks.
 

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I'll just never really understand why they hired retreads everywhere except Mayo, but especially with Wolf. What is the thought process behind it

It's going to be hard to even pay attention to the team in the offseason if they don't make significant moves in the front office. I want Mayo gone, but Wolf should be fired as soon as the year ends.
What non-retreads are signing up to coordinate a bad roster under a new coach they don't know that the owner selected without a search? That's a job with almost no upside and a ton of downside of being the scapegoat... older guys like AVP take that because it's a job and they have a track record to falll back on for their next one.
In terms of GMS... they didn't even hire one, they drifted through FA and the draft Wolf didn't even get the bump to (not GM but really GM) UNTIL MAY! What guy wants to take over after someone else drafts AND be saddled with the owner's handpicked coach?

The Krafts signalled early and often that they weren't running a serious operation when they let Bill go, and that meant nobody serious (Peters, etc.) was ever going to be interested in coming in.
 

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What non-retreads are signing up to coordinate a bad roster under a new coach they don't know that the owner selected without a search? That's a job with almost no upside and a ton of downside of being the scapegoat... older guys like AVP take that because it's a job and they have a track record to falll back on for their next one.
In terms of GMS... they didn't even hire one, they drifted through FA and the draft Wolf didn't even get the bump to (not GM but really GM) UNTIL MAY! What guy wants to take over after someone else drafts AND be saddled with the owner's handpicked coach?

The Krafts signalled early and often that they weren't running a serious operation when they let Bill go, and that meant nobody serious (Peters, etc.) was ever going to be interested in coming in.
Also, the HC will be on the hottest hot seat of any coach in the NFL. Any coordinator hired has a very good chance of being gone by the end of 2025, even if they do a decent job.
 

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What non-retreads are signing up to coordinate a bad roster under a new coach they don't know that the owner selected without a search? That's a job with almost no upside and a ton of downside of being the scapegoat... older guys like AVP take that because it's a job and they have a track record to falll back on for their next one.
In terms of GMS... they didn't even hire one, they drifted through FA and the draft Wolf didn't even get the bump to (not GM but really GM) UNTIL MAY! What guy wants to take over after someone else drafts AND be saddled with the owner's handpicked coach?

The Krafts signalled early and often that they weren't running a serious operation when they let Bill go, and that meant nobody serious (Peters, etc.) was ever going to be interested in coming in.
For a pretty long stretch Bill’s first and second round picks were materially worse than what the fans would have selected based on popular media opinion. Zero issue with the Krafts sacking him…but the lack of a serious search for a coach and GM shows incredible hubris, and the franchise is paying for it now
 

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For a pretty long stretch Bill’s first and second round picks were materially worse than what the fans would have selected based on popular media opinion. Zero issue with the Krafts sacking him…but the lack of a serious search for a coach and GM shows incredible hubris, and the franchise is paying for it now
yeah if it wasn't clear, I wasn't saying letting Bill go was the non-serious thing. It was everything surrounding and following it.
 

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yeah if it wasn't clear, I wasn't saying letting Bill go was the non-serious thing. It was everything surrounding and following it.
Gotcha - totally with you

it seems they thought everything was right EXCEPT Bill, which is bananas
 

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Schooler - he's the only player that didn't seem to get the memo that the Pats were flying the white flag today.
 

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The OL may be the best tacklers in the team. That was a pathetic display on all fronts outside of maybe Maye and maybe Gibson. It's been discussed a bunch, but BBs last draft was worlds better than Wolfe's first draft. I understand the blame he takes, but they'd be, somehow, even worse if Wolfe had control after the 23 season and performed similarly.
 

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I didn't watch the 4th quarter today. They were down 30-7 and looked like dead men walking. After checking the final score, I felt i din't miss much.

That OL was so bad today that the offense often had no chance at developing any plays. They had 181 yards of offense: 73 on the TD drive (no penalties), 51 on the final drive to run out the clock (no penalties), 21 on a 3Q drive (plus 1 12-yard DPI penalty) that ended with a 4th down sack and 36 on the other 7 drives. Pathetic.
 

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This is where I'm landing at this point. I have no idea if Polk or Baker can play. We may never find out either since I doubt Mayo gets canned.
It's blatantly obvious that neither Polk nor Baker can play in this league; has little to do with Mayo.
 

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It's blatantly obvious that neither Polk nor Baker can play in this league; has little to do with Mayo.
So what happened ?

Zo (yes, I know) said many times Polk killed it at camp and at some points he assumed he would break camp as our best WR

How did he go from that to essentially a healthy scratch?