Choose your own adventure: Seahawks style

Do you trade Russell

  • Yes

    Votes: 74 64.3%
  • No

    Votes: 39 33.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 1.7%

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tims4wins

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The Giants might be an interesting fit. Daniel Jones, one of their two 1st round picks this year, and a 2023 first. Who says no?

Off topic, but the draft this year is shaping up to be really bizarre. Current draft order has the Jets picking 4th and 5th, the Giants picking 6th and 7th, and the Eagles picking 9, 10, and 14.
That’s crazy that 3 teams own half of the first 14 picks. Should make for a pretty interesting first round.
 

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the problem with trading him to a team other than the Jets or Bears is that it will probably not get you any top 10 picks which will make it much harder to replace him.
Giants have the 5th and 6th pick next year currently and Danny Dimes may not be the long term answer.
 

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Off topic, but the draft this year is shaping up to be really bizarre. Current draft order has the Jets picking 4th and 5th, the Giants picking 6th and 7th, and the Eagles picking 9, 10, and 14.
And, you can make the argument that all three of those teams could/would/should be interested in Wilson. You get a couple of them and a Denver or Pittsburgh in a bidding war ... Seattle could get a haul
 

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I don’t know if the Jets are ready for Wilson yet. We need a lot more than the last piece. Probably better if we trade one of our picks for more picks.

Miami, Denver, Chicago, New Orleans, Pitt, Green Bay if Rodgers leaves (don’t know what they could trade, though) all seem better.
 

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Probably better if we trade one of our picks for more picks.
The beauty of this is that you could easily flip one of the firsts with someone and pick up bonus picks ... while still owning a Top 6 pick
 

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I didn't, for a multitude of reasons in that game (and season for that matter). But I want to get back to the original point because I'm curious as to who you think are the 16 NFL quarterbacks better than Russell Wilson. Because I don't really see it, even with Russell broken right now.

In no particular order, definitely Rodgers, Prescott, Brady, Murray, Mahomes, Jackson & Allen and you could make an argument for Cousins, Stafford, Carr, Herbert, Tannehill, Burrow, and Jones, so that's 14 at the most, but I think he's 8th right now because his ceiling is higher than any of the latter group and he's in the fight for top 5 when he's right.
I'm a Niners fan and completely conditioned to hate Wilson. And I do.

And there's no way he's anything other than top 7 (and could be higher). I understand why teams with young, cheap qbs might not be interested, but Wilson isn't Jackson. He's an accurate qb that can escape pressure, not someone who relies entirely on his legs. I bring this up because I think he can age pretty well.

And anyone putting Jones ahead of Wilson on any list that isn't entirely because he's a rookie and cheap is nuts.
 

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Giants have the 5th and 6th pick next year currently and Danny Dimes may not be the long term answer.
I was basing this on the list of teams mentioned here, although as shown in the edit the Jets are not even on that. But that was a year ago, so things might have changed with Russell, especially as Dallas is no longer an option with the extension for Dak.

I do agree that the Giants might have the ammunition to get the deal done, although I am not sure if Jones is worth anything in such a trade, maybe as a bridge quarterback for Seattle.
 

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I didn't, for a multitude of reasons in that game (and season for that matter). But I want to get back to the original point because I'm curious as to who you think are the 16 NFL quarterbacks better than Russell Wilson. Because I don't really see it, even with Russell broken right now.

In no particular order, definitely Rodgers, Prescott, Brady, Murray, Mahomes, Jackson & Allen and you could make an argument for Cousins, Stafford, Carr, Herbert, Tannehill, Burrow, and Jones, so that's 14 at the most, but I think he's 8th right now because his ceiling is higher than any of the latter group and he's in the fight for top 5 when he's right.

Edit: My apologies, I misread your post as "top half" when you said "top tier". I still disagree with that, but at least there's a better argument there depending on how you define "top tier".
Agree with the bolded. "Top Tier" is a bit nebulous (I think of top 10% as top tier, which translates to top 3 in the NFL), and my original post was very intentionally based on what I personally have seen. I don't watch every SEA game, but it seems like everytime I do, I'm unimpressed (except for last year against the Pats, obviously). I'm not saying he isn't good or anything; he obviously is. But yeah, back to the original point, I don't think he's one of the top 3 (or even top 5) in the NFL anymore, if he ever really was.
 

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I know he was hurt and missed a few games but I'm looking at Wilson's numbers this year and while they are down a bit, they don't look to me like a precipitous drop from his typical performance. I haven't seen the Seahawks much this year, I am curious as to why people are talking like he's not good this year (obviously stats do not tell the whole story).

If the Seahawks do trade Wilson I hope he stays in the NFC, and I'd be terrified if he ended up on the Dolphins.
 

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Wilson is really good throwing the deep ball and will excel in a vertical passing offense. Where are those matches? Washington as @Deathofthebambino pointed out is one of those offenses. Scary Terry and Wilson would be a great combo. Denver has a team of guys who can all get deep. New Orleans? Not sure about them. They were rumored to have a trade up with Arizona at 16 for Mac. They typically have an offense which isn’t Wilson’s style. Pittsburgh is interesting but I’m not sure they want his style of QB either. Granted Wilson is better than what both Denver and Pittsburgh has. Carolina is also in that boat where I’m not sure Wilson is a stylistic match. Pittsburgh and Carolina also have some issues on the OL and Russ isn’t 27-28 anymore. The Giants are another possible matchup where they have the picks to send Seattle’s way. Again the problem with that is this isn’t a good QB class. I also don’t know what the Giants offensive philosophy is. Does anyone? Do the Giants even know? Not trying to troll the Giants but I think it’s a fair question. GB is a potential match too and I think Wilson could live in that Shanny/LaFleur type of offense. They could also offer Love back + picks.

There are fits and opportunities. I think the best scheme fit is Washington. DEN, GB, MIA, and NYG follow. PIT, CAR, and NO round it up. HOU and CLE are wildcards in this discussion but I’m not sure either one wants to make that move.
 

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As a pacific northwester I am subjected to my share of Seahawks games. I don't think Russ is one of the QB's that can succeed without a good offensive coordinator

I'd keep Russ, get rid of Carrol and whoever Shane Waldron is (from https://pro-football-history.com/franchpos/24/7/seattle-seahawks-offensive-coordinator-history)

Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinator history
Shane Waldron
Waldron is the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks since the 2021 season. Waldron's record as the team's offensive coordinator was 3-8-0, making him the second-least successful offensive coordinator in Seattle Seahawks history.

Brian Schottenheimer
Schottenheimer was the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks in the 2018-2020 seasons, a total of three years. Schottenheimer's record as the team's offensive coordinator was 33-15-0, making him the most successful offensive coordinator in Seattle Seahawks history. The team made it to the playoffs three times (2018-2020) and had a 1-3 record under Coach Schottenheimer in playoff games.

Darrell Bevell
Bevell was the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks in the 2011-2017 seasons, a total of seven years. Bevell's record as the team's offensive coordinator was 72-39-1, making him the second-most successful offensive coordinator in Seattle Seahawks history. The team made it to the playoffs five times (2012-2016) and had a 8-4 record under Coach Bevell in playoff games. In 2013, the Seattle Seahawks faced off against the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XLVIII and the Seahawks, under the direction of head coach Pete Carroll, won 43-8. In 2014, the Seattle Seahawks faced off against the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLIX and the Seahawks, under the direction of head coach Pete Carroll, lost 24-28.
 

BigJimEd

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you’re not taking the cap hit off their books if you trade for Wilson. There would be considerable “dead money” on Seattle’s books if they trade him. Looks like $26M in 2022 and $13M in 2023 if it’s a pre-June 1 trade, which it likely would be for draft purposes.
Just to clarify, if the Seahawks trade Wilson before June, they would have $26M in dead money but would actually have a cap "savings" of about 11M. Wilson would be completely off their cap after the 2022 season.
That's assuming they trade him before his roster bonus is due. Otherwise we'd adjust those numbers by $5M


If Seattle traded him after the 2022 season then they would only have 13M in dead money for the 2023 season.
 

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I voted keep him and try to build around him, but I think it's closer than I initially expected to see before looking at the numbers.

The interesting thing about Wilson is his consistency at being around the 10th best QB each year in recent years as measured by DYAR. From 2016 to 2020 he had DYARs of 569, 530, 673, 1265, and 773, which totals to 3870 DYAR and which averages out to just around 10th best. In reality, he's probably better than that because there's a lot of guys bouncing up for a year or two then going back to sucking. The only person remotely close to Wilson in year-to-year consistency over that period is Brees, but that's because he's either 2nd or 3rd in four of the years in that period.

The top 10 by total DYAR in 2016-2020:

1. Brees (6705 DYAR)
2. Brady (5983)
3. Ryan (5730)
4. Rodgers (5358)
5. Mahomes (5071, in just 3 seasons)
6. Carr (4254)
7. Cousins (3939)
8. Wilson (3870)
9. Roethlisberger (3799, in 4 seasons)
10. Stafford (3621)

People who missed a single year in that period but had a better per year average than Wilson

1. Roethlisberger (3799)
2. Prescott (3330)

So I would say, ignoring his current injury and its impact, Wilson is currently somewhere around 7-8th in the NFL, but that's likely only to go down moving forward. Still, there's a lot of value in having someone currently at that level.
 

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Just to clarify, if the Seahawks trade Wilson before June, they would have $26M in dead money but would actually have a cap "savings" of about 11M. Wilson would be completely off their cap after the 2022 season.
That's assuming they trade him before his roster bonus is due. Otherwise we'd adjust those numbers by $5M


If Seattle traded him after the 2022 season then they would only have 13M in dead money for the 2023 season.
Thanks, I read that chart wrong. I think Seattle would definitely stomach that hit for the right deal but think they’ll multiple #1’s. Will be interesting to see this play out.
 

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Philly makes sense for these reasons:

1. They are obsessed with QBs. They traded a ton of draft picks for Wentz, locked him up long-term, then less than a year later drafted Hurts in the 2nd round.
2. Wentz's dead money comes off the cap next year.
3. They have their OL locked up (aside from Kelce who will be there or retire) and a young stud WR in Smith to build on.
4. They have three 1st round picks next year and Jalen Hurts available in this hypothetical trade.

Assuming Pete is still in Seattle he may be interested in a dynamic running QB.
As an Eagles fan, I don't want to give up a ton for him. Especially when they need to rebuild both lines. They drafted Kelce's replacement in Landon Dickerson, but they will probably need to replace Brandon Brooks (and potentially Lane Johnson) within the next 2 years.

Their d-line needs to be completely overhauled, as they will likely let Derek Barnett walk. Their plan to squeeze yet another year out of Cox and Graham has hit a wall this season. And Cox is impossible to trade because Howie Roseman restructured his contract to lessen the cap hit.
 

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It seems like this is the year to trade Wilson considering there are multiple teams who needs QBs plus two or three of those have multiple 1st round picks this year. Couple that with the incoming draft class seems sorely lacking in any top level QB prospects, and it’s really a sellers market.
 

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They should trade Wilson to Washington for Heinicke, Chase Young, and WFT's 1st round pick. Steep price, yes. But Washington's defense is good even without Young, and Wilson would be a massive upgrade over Heinicke. They'd be instant contenders. For Seattle, they get immediate (well for 2022 given Young's injury in 2021) defensive help that they sorely need, a great pick that they also sorely need, and an adequate replacement QB to bridge to the next one.

Of course, I have no idea about the money, if it would work. And I have less of an idea if either team would want to do this.
 

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They should trade Wilson to Washington for Heinicke, Chase Young, and WFT's 1st round pick. Steep price, yes. But Washington's defense is good even without Young, and Wilson would be a massive upgrade over Heinicke. They'd be instant contenders. For Seattle, they get immediate (well for 2022 given Young's injury in 2021) defensive help that they sorely need, a great pick that they also sorely need, and an adequate replacement QB to bridge to the next one.

Of course, I have no idea about the money, if it would work. And I have less of an idea if either team would want to do this.
You have to remove the pick or Young for that to make sense for WFT.
 

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Seahawks are back, baby.
I'm happy we have the #1 seed at the moment too but I'm going to start knocking posts and posters with adding nothing. Seriously. You have been called out multiple times to add context, discussion worthy posts, and actual content.

This post is none of those. Do better really fast.
Look @Dogman I’m not trying to be difficult or pick a fight… but where is the consistency?
 

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Look @Dogman I’m not trying to be difficult or pick a fight… but where is the consistency?
"Do better really fast." Is there a way to be more obnoxious? Alas, it's not the Dogma's fault, (or any mod's fault, actually) mods are human and they take it out on some people and not on other's. Managing a message board is actually tough. I would not sweat it.
 

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"Do better really fast." Is there a way to be more obnoxious? Alas, it's not the Dogma's fault, (or any mod's fault, actually) mods are human and they take it out on some people and not on other's. Managing a message board is actually tough. I would not sweat it.
Dogman's the only SoSHer I've met personally (that I'm aware of), and I can say that he's a hell of a nice guy.
 

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Dogman's the only SoSHer I've met personally (that I'm aware of), and I can say that he's a hell of a nice guy.
I imagine he's a tremendous human being. Like I said, it's really tough modding. Some people are going to feel singled out on occasion.
 

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Maybe the next poll I make will be about the worst trades the Seahawks have made in the last decade.

Jamal Adams: More surgeries than sacks as a Seahawk; gave up first-rounder and Bradley McDougald (who was a very good starter for Seattle) and made Adams the highest paid safety ever (this after they refused to pay people like Sherman or Earl Thomas)
Jimmy Graham: Gave up their starting center in Max Unger and have struggled to fill that spot since; Graham was an absolute disappointment
Percy Harvin: Gave up a first-round pick ... had a big kick return touchdown in the Super Bowl win, but not much else. Caused locker room issues.
 

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Jamal Adams: More surgeries than sacks as a Seahawk; gave up first-rounder and Bradley McDougald (who was a very good starter for Seattle) and made Adams the highest paid safety ever (this after they refused to pay people like Sherman or Earl Thomas)
They gave up more than this. Jamal was good for them last year but not in the scheme they are running this year.
 

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Maybe the next poll I make will be about the worst trades the Seahawks have made in the last decade.

Jamal Adams: More surgeries than sacks as a Seahawk; gave up first-rounder and Bradley McDougald (who was a very good starter for Seattle) and made Adams the highest paid safety ever (this after they refused to pay people like Sherman or Earl Thomas)
Jimmy Graham: Gave up their starting center in Max Unger and have struggled to fill that spot since; Graham was an absolute disappointment
Percy Harvin: Gave up a first-round pick ... had a big kick return touchdown in the Super Bowl win, but not much else. Caused locker room issues.
Not to throw salt in the wound but didn't they give up 2 1st's, a 3rd and McDougald for Adams and a 4th Rounder?
 

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Not to throw salt in the wound but didn't they give up 2 1st's, a 3rd and McDougald for Adams and a 4th Rounder?
That's correct. Can't wait to cash in that 4th rounder this year! And McDougald is a FA right now, so they could get him back!

The difference between Adams and Sherman/Thomas is age. They weren't going to invest money in older secondary players.

Graham was a complete head scratcher before he played a game for them and got even worse after we all got to see how Pete used him in the offense.

Harvin was probably the best of the 3 deals and that's damning by faint praise. But I'll never forget that kick return. And I actually have his jersey (was a close-out on NFL.com).
 

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I guess as the 100th voter & the 1st to vote for "other" I'm contractually obligated to provide context for my vote...

...it depends on what they can get?
 

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Maybe the next poll I make will be about the worst trades the Seahawks have made in the last decade.

Jamal Adams: More surgeries than sacks as a Seahawk; gave up first-rounder and Bradley McDougald (who was a very good starter for Seattle) and made Adams the highest paid safety ever (this after they refused to pay people like Sherman or Earl Thomas)
Jimmy Graham: Gave up their starting center in Max Unger and have struggled to fill that spot since; Graham was an absolute disappointment
Percy Harvin: Gave up a first-round pick ... had a big kick return touchdown in the Super Bowl win, but not much else. Caused locker room issues.
I thought Graham was going to be an assassin in that offense.

Harvin… they maybe got their moneys worth out of that one. He was enough of a threat he added value beyond his production by drawing extra attention.
 

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OK Giants, time to step up in the offseason. The 2 firsts this year, a 5th this year and a 3rd next year for Russell. After Pete is gone, of course.

Seahawks can laughingly make the playoffs still. They only need to win out (vs. Chi, vs. Det, @Ari) and have the following happen:

SF lose out (beat them with tiebreaker)
Min lose out (lose tiebreaker)
NO lose out (lose tiebreaker)
Wash lose at least 2 (lose tiebreaker)
Atl lose at least 1

That's all they need.

The playoff machine says it's possible. If Phi loses out with Wash losing their other two games, they could actually get the 6 seed with SF in the 7.
 

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I think I'm against trading RW3 if he wants to stay because it's so hard to replace him but I would take that offer pretty quick. Though I'd ask for another first just to see if they're crazy.
 

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Here's an interesting stat that points to KNJ and Pete's defensive scheme. When the Hawks drop defensive lineman into coverage, teams have targeted those players 26 times. They've completed 25 of those for 191 yards and a TD. Probably most teams that do this have equally bad stats, but for Seattle to do it is just fucking stupid if the results are like this.
 

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I thought Graham was going to be an assassin in that offense.

Harvin… they maybe got their moneys worth out of that one. He was enough of a threat he added value beyond his production by drawing extra attention.
Harvin barely played for them ... missed 15 games in 2013 (he did return for a couple playoff games, including the SB KR TD) and got traded 5 games into 2014.
 

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Here's an interesting stat that points to KNJ and Pete's defensive scheme. When the Hawks drop defensive lineman into coverage, teams have targeted those players 26 times. They've completed 25 of those for 191 yards and a TD. Probably most teams that do this have equally bad stats, but for Seattle to do it is just fucking stupid if the results are like this.
Probably but we need a little more info to be certain. That chart just seems to take into when targeted. To get the full picture we'd need to know the result every time they dropped into coverage. Usually when a lineman will drop into coverage, a LB will be blitzing with the hope that it confuses the offense. Is the QB reading the blitz easily or are those plays resulting in high number of sacks or throw aways that are not counted here.

Second, what is the situation? Not every completion is a good play for the offense or a bad result for the D.
Take a look at the top line for Alston Robinson. 3 out 3 sounds bad. 20 total yards, avg 6.7 but a long of 16. So 1 long gain and 4 total yards on the other 2. We don't know the context but very possible both of those plays ended up with a positive result for the D. Also shows 38 YAC so average reception was 6 yds behind the LOS if I am reading that correct.
On the aggregate Dunlap and Taylor's numbers look good but Green and Mayowa's numbers do not and they are the most targeted.
 

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I realize he has to say things like this, but Pete sounds as though he has a limited grasp of reality

"Not for one reason at all am I thinking that we have to restart this whole thing and create a new philosophy and a new approach and all that," he told 710 ESPN Seattle on Monday. "I don't think that. I think we've got the essence of the things that we need. We've got to build on them, we've got to support it better and we've got to continue to grow and progress. There ain't no standing still, but there's the foundation for doing things."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32948040/after-rare-losing-season-pete-carroll-says-seattle-seahawks-need-retool-not-restart-whole-thing
 

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Probably but we need a little more info to be certain. That chart just seems to take into when targeted. To get the full picture we'd need to know the result every time they dropped into coverage. Usually when a lineman will drop into coverage, a LB will be blitzing with the hope that it confuses the offense. Is the QB reading the blitz easily or are those plays resulting in high number of sacks or throw aways that are not counted here.

Second, what is the situation? Not every completion is a good play for the offense or a bad result for the D.
Take a look at the top line for Alston Robinson. 3 out 3 sounds bad. 20 total yards, avg 6.7 but a long of 16. So 1 long gain and 4 total yards on the other 2. We don't know the context but very possible both of those plays ended up with a positive result for the D. Also shows 38 YAC so average reception was 6 yds behind the LOS if I am reading that correct.
On the aggregate Dunlap and Taylor's numbers look good but Green and Mayowa's numbers do not and they are the most targeted.
Definitely some good points. They don't have squat for sacks (29, tied for 24th). Blitz percentage is in the lower half (23.3%, 20th). And, anecdotally, those don't coincide with each other or the drops into coverage. It seems to me they drop 8 into coverage a lot when they do this and rarely zone blitz. That could be wrong, but I don't have a sub to PFF to research further, and I'm not sure if Football Outsiders has this kind of data. This might be an offseason research project.

It irritates me that KNJ insists on putting his players in situations not playing to their strengths. I can see doing it maybe once per game to confuse, but when the scheme is reliant on something like that, it's the coaching equivalent of running headfirst into a wall with no helmet.

I realize he has to say things like this, but Pete sounds as though he has a limited grasp of reality

"Not for one reason at all am I thinking that we have to restart this whole thing and create a new philosophy and a new approach and all that," he told 710 ESPN Seattle on Monday. "I don't think that. I think we've got the essence of the things that we need. We've got to build on them, we've got to support it better and we've got to continue to grow and progress. There ain't no standing still, but there's the foundation for doing things."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32948040/after-rare-losing-season-pete-carroll-says-seattle-seahawks-need-retool-not-restart-whole-thing
When the foundation is the football version of the Leaning Tower of Pisa, well... You're in charge Pete. Of everything. Fucking do something about it.
 

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Nice win yesterday to finish 7-10. It'll be interesting to see how Jody Allen's meetings go with Schneider and Pete. Hopefully with Pete out, but with KNJ out at a minimum.

According to multiple reports, Seahawks aren't interested in trading Russell in the off season. He did turn it around the last couple of games and looked much better.

The one bad piece of news yesterday was Quandre Diggs being carted off the field with a broken fibula and dislocated ankle.

It's something like the 5th major injury to a Seahawk in Arizona's stadium the past few years (Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, Dissly, and now Diggs). I hope he gets well and I hope Seattle re-signs him.
 

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Prayers have been answered.

According to a Seattle Times report published Monday evening at the conclusion of the wild-card round of the NFL playoffs, the Seattle Seahawks and Ken Norton Jr. will “part ways.”

Norton has been the Seahawks’ defensive coordinator for four years and was previously employed by the Oakland Raiders in the same position for three years.