... who was expelled for testing positive for PEDs.
Maryland is the trashiest program in college. Let that sink in.
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Maryland is the trashiest program in college. Let that sink in.
I used to respect Tim Tebow. I thought his ostentatious religiosity was off-putting, but he seemed like a good competitor and a decent guy.
But this?:
That's just vile. Stomach-turning really.
But this?:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/11/02/tim-tebow-rips-maryland-firing-dj-durking-after-retaining-coach/1859600002/
That's just vile. Stomach-turning really.
He's right in the sense that they should have fired him the second after the manslaughter, not hold him and then fire him after the media pressure.
Purple Wizard might announce his retirement this week, perhaps as early as Tuesday. No link but Buddy is a journalist and has heard some rumblings.
Purple Wizard = Bill Snyder, presumably? (FWIW, a Google search on "purple wizard" did not end well.)
Yup. I actually thought that was a well-known moniker and not just the old school SWC talk like piggy, aggy, etc.
Stories / rumors starting to ripple out that James Franklin could be considered / headed for USC. This story offers 10 reasons why that could happen. [My Take]
1. USC is a better job than Penn State [Arguable, but not an outlandish position to take]
2. The thrill is gone [Perhaps, but he still seems pretty excited to me. I think he sincerely believes he can...and wants to...bring a NC to Happy Valley. That is not an impossible dream.]
3. Weather and lifestyle. [No argument]
4. Franklin's personality is a perfect LA fit. [No argument]
5. Franklin's recruiting background almost entirely east of the Mississippi does not matter. [Not so sure about this. While Franklin has left a great deal of the heavy lifting in recruiting to his staff, his own energy, personal knowledge of and involvement in recruiting has played an important part in PSU's recent resurgence. He has more recently dipped into FL, TX, and has placed feet in CA, but he'll still be at somewhat of a disadvantage early on in the west. However, in some ways, his reputation as a recruiter may precede him]
6. Sandy Barbour's future as AD is unknown [Sandy Barbour ain't nowhere anytime soon...although she could give him tips about the PAC-12, given her Cal roots]
7. Being an African-American coach might be easier in a large, diverse city. [There is no evidence anywhere that race has played any part, one way or the other, in Franklin and his family's integration into the State College community. It would not appear - at least on the surface - that it could be described as "difficult", which the relative characterization of "easier" implies.].
8. Lynn Swann could hire USC's first black head football coach. [An attractive piece of potential history and personal legacy to dangle. He's already claimed "first black" head coach at Vandy and PSU. Perhaps the added benny of a fellow black naming him is a tempting one-two punch.]
9. The Pac-12 South is so much easier than the Big Ten East [Given the historical and collective histories, no contest. True.]
10. James Franklin has never gathered moss. [What coach in the modern era has? The list of top-20 longest tenured coaches is below]
Coach, school, year hired
1. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa, 1999
2. Gary Patterson, TCU, 2000
T3. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State, 2005
T3. Frank Solich, Ohio, 2005
T3. Kyle Whittingham, Utah, 2005
T6. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern, 2006
T6. Rick Stockstill, Mid. Tennessee St., 2006
T8. Ken Niumatalolo, Navy, 2007
T8. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State, 2007
T8. David Bailiff, Rice, 2007
T8. Troy Calhoun, Air Force, 2007
T8. Nick Saban, Alabama, 2007
T13. Dabo Swinney, Clemson, 2008
T13. David Cutcliffe, Duke, 2008
T13. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech, 2008
T13. Bobby Wilder, Old Dominion, 2008
T17. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State, 2009
T17. Bill Snyder, Kansas State, 2009
T17. Joey Jones, South Alabama, 2009
T20. Doc Holliday, Marshall, 2010
T20. Jimbo Fisher, Florida State, 2010
T20. Brian Kelly, Notre Dame, 2010
1. USC is a better job than Penn State [Arguable, but not an outlandish position to take]
2. The thrill is gone [Perhaps, but he still seems pretty excited to me. I think he sincerely believes he can...and wants to...bring a NC to Happy Valley. That is not an impossible dream.]
3. Weather and lifestyle. [No argument]
4. Franklin's personality is a perfect LA fit. [No argument]
5. Franklin's recruiting background almost entirely east of the Mississippi does not matter. [Not so sure about this. While Franklin has left a great deal of the heavy lifting in recruiting to his staff, his own energy, personal knowledge of and involvement in recruiting has played an important part in PSU's recent resurgence. He has more recently dipped into FL, TX, and has placed feet in CA, but he'll still be at somewhat of a disadvantage early on in the west. However, in some ways, his reputation as a recruiter may precede him]
6. Sandy Barbour's future as AD is unknown [Sandy Barbour ain't nowhere anytime soon...although she could give him tips about the PAC-12, given her Cal roots]
7. Being an African-American coach might be easier in a large, diverse city. [There is no evidence anywhere that race has played any part, one way or the other, in Franklin and his family's integration into the State College community. It would not appear - at least on the surface - that it could be described as "difficult", which the relative characterization of "easier" implies.].
8. Lynn Swann could hire USC's first black head football coach. [An attractive piece of potential history and personal legacy to dangle. He's already claimed "first black" head coach at Vandy and PSU. Perhaps the added benny of a fellow black naming him is a tempting one-two punch.]
9. The Pac-12 South is so much easier than the Big Ten East [Given the historical and collective histories, no contest. True.]
10. James Franklin has never gathered moss. [What coach in the modern era has? The list of top-20 longest tenured coaches is below]
Coach, school, year hired
1. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa, 1999
2. Gary Patterson, TCU, 2000
T3. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State, 2005
T3. Frank Solich, Ohio, 2005
T3. Kyle Whittingham, Utah, 2005
T6. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern, 2006
T6. Rick Stockstill, Mid. Tennessee St., 2006
T8. Ken Niumatalolo, Navy, 2007
T8. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State, 2007
T8. David Bailiff, Rice, 2007
T8. Troy Calhoun, Air Force, 2007
T8. Nick Saban, Alabama, 2007
T13. Dabo Swinney, Clemson, 2008
T13. David Cutcliffe, Duke, 2008
T13. Paul Johnson, Georgia Tech, 2008
T13. Bobby Wilder, Old Dominion, 2008
T17. Dan Mullen, Mississippi State, 2009
T17. Bill Snyder, Kansas State, 2009
T17. Joey Jones, South Alabama, 2009
T20. Doc Holliday, Marshall, 2010
T20. Jimbo Fisher, Florida State, 2010
T20. Brian Kelly, Notre Dame, 2010
I disagree with the LA personality. He doesn't have the laid-back, Pete Carroll, aw shucks, personality. JF almost always looks too angry.
Also, Jimbo Fisher is no longer at FSU. And Dan Mullen is no longer at Miss St.
Also, Jimbo Fisher is no longer at FSU. And Dan Mullen is no longer at Miss St.
Wasn't sure where to put this, but a cool article on Darryl Stingley's grandson Derek Jr, who is a top recruit going to LSU:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2018/12/03/derek-stingley-turning-out-special-player-his-grandfather-envisioned/Xg6LSD0PEBmQ2dgXvRuLBK/story.html#comments
And here is one of those ridiculous high school highlight reels we get to see from elite athletes like Stingley:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2018/12/03/derek-stingley-turning-out-special-player-his-grandfather-envisioned/Xg6LSD0PEBmQ2dgXvRuLBK/story.html#comments
And here is one of those ridiculous high school highlight reels we get to see from elite athletes like Stingley:
Kelly Bryant picked Missouri. Made some sense, they have no QB in the wings after Lock and they have a good amount of returning offensive players at skill positions. He should have a good chance to showcase what he can do at that school.
I'm back thinking about UCF. No power 5 conference wants them. So they're stuck in a crappy conference. Not really their fault. And they can't really schedule power 5 schools in their non-conference games, because most of those power 5 schools won't touch UCF as a non-conference opponent, because their conference schedules are already hard enough and they want a few cupcakes in there. Plus...money.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25479055/florida-gators-ad-scott-stricklin-welcome-2-1-series-vs-ucf-knights
Florida will schedule UCF, but only in a scheduling scenario that is advantage Florida.
So what is UCF supposed to do? They try to make a difficult schedule. They managed to schedule UNC (not good, but a power 5 school...cancelled due to hurricane) and Pitt (who was pretty decent). But they'll never get a big big time program on their schedule without putting themselves at a major disadvantage.
But maybe that's what they'll have to do. Maybe they simply say, look, we'll play you guys on the road, sure. And see how that goes. I dunno.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25479055/florida-gators-ad-scott-stricklin-welcome-2-1-series-vs-ucf-knights
Florida will schedule UCF, but only in a scheduling scenario that is advantage Florida.
So what is UCF supposed to do? They try to make a difficult schedule. They managed to schedule UNC (not good, but a power 5 school...cancelled due to hurricane) and Pitt (who was pretty decent). But they'll never get a big big time program on their schedule without putting themselves at a major disadvantage.
But maybe that's what they'll have to do. Maybe they simply say, look, we'll play you guys on the road, sure. And see how that goes. I dunno.
I think UCF should take the 2 for 1s when they can get them. Win enough of those games and the whining about how unfair the rankings are will have more merit.
Boo hoo. They were 6-7 two years ago, and 0-12 the year before that. These games are scheduled years in advance, and nobody is going to risk millions of dollars to schedule a home and home against a nobody team that could be back to FCS level three years from now. Put up sustained excellence, and they will come. Otherwise, take your 2-for-1 and one offs against traditional powers, or just keep hanging your moral victory banners.
EDIT: And don’t give me the “not really their fault,” and “managed to schedule UNC” BS. As I said, these games are scheduled years in advance. The UCF series was agreed to in the summer of 2016, with UCF coming off an 0-12 season. If you think Alabama, LSU, OSU, Michigan type schools wouldn’t have happily thrown them on the home schedule this year or next, and thrown in a million bucks for good measure, you’re fooling yourself. UCF wanted a home and home, and in no way were they deserving of one with an elite school as a bottom-feeding program in a mid major conference. But if they wanted a game, they could’ve had one.
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I lean toward your take. They aren't in position to be stubborn and wait for a home-and-home series. They won't schedule a top program that way. Take your 2 for 1, win the games when they matter, and that will accomplish what they need to do. Go to the Swamp and win, and everyone will take them (more) seriously.
Not sure if any of you follow FCS football, but perennial powerhouse, and #1 seed in the playoffs, North Dakota State, is playing #8 Colgate right now on ESPN. It's pretty good stuff. Colgate comes in after beating another perennial power, James Madison. NDSU has won like 4 of the last 5 national championships.
Every time someone tells me we can't have a huge college football playoff in the FBS, I point to this system, which is freaking awesome. It's an interesting system, where 24 teams make it, but 8 teams have "1st round" byes.
I want the FBS to have a full 64 team playoff, I want the regular season for every team to be 10 games (Colgate played 10, North Dakota St. played 11), and then maybe an 11th for a conference championship. Then put together a second, 64 team playoff NIT-type tournament for the schools that don't get in.
Anyway, if you aren't watching, try to tune in. It's really good football.
Edit: Actually, NDSU has won 6 of the last 7 National Championships, which is pretty amazing considering that besides Carson Wentz, they haven't had a ton of guys that went on NFL careers, or even guys who were the best players in the FCS that year.
Every time someone tells me we can't have a huge college football playoff in the FBS, I point to this system, which is freaking awesome. It's an interesting system, where 24 teams make it, but 8 teams have "1st round" byes.
I want the FBS to have a full 64 team playoff, I want the regular season for every team to be 10 games (Colgate played 10, North Dakota St. played 11), and then maybe an 11th for a conference championship. Then put together a second, 64 team playoff NIT-type tournament for the schools that don't get in.
Anyway, if you aren't watching, try to tune in. It's really good football.
Edit: Actually, NDSU has won 6 of the last 7 National Championships, which is pretty amazing considering that besides Carson Wentz, they haven't had a ton of guys that went on NFL careers, or even guys who were the best players in the FCS that year.
Yes watching it, best thing on right now.
NDSU has depth and coaching. That's why they're great
NDSU has depth and coaching. That's why they're great
They're almost ridiculous. Going into today, they are 109-8 since 2011. That's mind-boggling. And it's through 2 different head coaches. Craig Bohl was their coach until 2013, when he left after winning a third straight national championship, to go coach Wyoming. Then Chris Klieman took over, and they've won 3 in 4 years, and are rolling along to their 4th in 5. Klieman was brought in as the defensive coordinator (kind of out of the blue) in 2011, and helped Bohl basically turn the program into a juggernaut. They've really figured shit out down there.
The Navy quarterback is really, really bad at passing; throws every pass at least 5 yards too long.
Well over a five minute review of first down or not in the Army Navy game. And still have to measure. Talk about all about the refs. Awful.
NDSU had far more talent than Colgate. It really wasn’t even close. Surprised they haven’t tried to make the jump to FBS given their stadium but they may be the equivalent of a AAAA team. That game wasn’t even remotely competitive and Colgate had a great year.
Looks like they have some FBS OOC games scheduled in the next 5 years, including at Oregon.
I think they'd be happy to schedule some OOC FBS games, but who would want to play them? If you're an FBS program, even a good one, what do you have to gain by playing North Dakota State and winning? Conversely, what do you have to lose if you don't win?
The reality is they are 5-0 against FBS opponents since they started this run, with the most notable victory coming when they walked into Iowa State 2 years ago, when Iowa was #13 in the country, and they beat them. They blew out Iowa State when they agreed to play them in their season opener, and beat Kansas State when they agreed to the same the year before. Colorado State and Minnesota are the other two victims.
There is a reason they haven't played FBS teams since 2016, and I'm pretty sure it has more to do with nobody wanting to play them than the other way around I'm happy that there are at least a couple schools willing to take the risk to play them in the next few years though.
To be clear, I was being complimentary of the team. They looked really good. As a BC fan, I thought their QB is better than ours. But I also think they’re in no man’s land. They are going to win like their 7th title in 8 years. FCS teams can’t hang with them. So, if FBS teams won’t schedule them, then come to FBS. You’d think some conference would take them but maybe they’ve tried. Maybe they like to be the big fish in a small pond. Who knows.
We’ll see if SDSU can give them another good game.
I didn't think you were being derogatory towards them, I was just pointing out that they seem to try to schedule FBS schools, but there just isn't anyone willing to step up to the plate, and I kind of understand it from the perspective of the FBS schools.
I'd be curious to see what would happen if they moved up, but I don't know if it's a wise move. The stadium only holds like 19,000 people, so that isn't gonna cut it to get them into a top tier FBS conference, so it would have to probably be Conference USA or the Mid-American, and I'm not really sure getting into a conference that even if they dominated, they'd still be left out of the FBS playoffs. That said, I'm not sure they'd do as well. It can't be easy to recruit kids to come play in North Dakota, at least not kids who have other choices at the FBS level. I think they'll be like Mount Union in DIII, and just continue to dominate for years to come.
My God, who is this clown that can't read the year, 2018, that is going to announce the Heisman winner?
I would have voted for Haskins, but Kyler Murray takes down the Heisman. Pretty nice year for the kid, drafted by the A's, pockets $5million, wins the Heisman...Everything is coming up Kyler.
Ahh, the Boise State approach.
Still doesn't work.
There is always, always, the counter-argument. "Play better teams (but we won't let you in our conference)"
I know past teams aren't present teams, so UCF's two straight undefeated seasons (let's assume for fun they win their bowl game) don't have any real bearing on next year's team. But if they do win this year's bowl game against a big-time program and finish unbeaten again, at some point national pollsters doing the playoff rankings need to think, you know, I don't care that they're in a crappy conference...whoever they play, they beat, even when it's big-time power 5 schools in bowl games.
Or...maybe not.
And I couldn't really care less about UCF - it's not about them specifically for me. It's about any school in this situation. Even if they took the 2-1 situation and kept beating those teams, they're still not going to get into the playoff because their conference schedule is so weak comparatively, and there's nothing they can do about that unless a power 5 conference lets them in - which they won't.
Or...maybe not.
And I couldn't really care less about UCF - it's not about them specifically for me. It's about any school in this situation. Even if they took the 2-1 situation and kept beating those teams, they're still not going to get into the playoff because their conference schedule is so weak comparatively, and there's nothing they can do about that unless a power 5 conference lets them in - which they won't.
Yep, and as usual, they find a new way to get it done today. Their QB, Easton Stick (great name, by the way), who is a capable runner, but not a great one, went off today for 147 yards and 3tds' on 14 carries. As a team, they ran for 439 yards, and ended up winning 44-21 against South Dakota State.Another epic beatdown.
In the other semifinal game, Eastern Washington rolled Maine 50-19. Eastern Washington has a ridiculously high powered offense, and they have for years. Their quarterback, Erik Barriere threw for 352 yards and 7td's today. Barriere is their backup QB, who took over for Gabe Gubrud in September after Gubrud hurt his foot. Gubrud was a two time finalist for the Walter Payton award coming into this season and he set the FCS record for passing yards in a season as a sophomore with 5,160, so he was a huge loss, and they haven't missed a beat. EWU is the same school that produced Cooper Kupp who holds every college football receiving record and plays for the Rams, and the receiver opposite him was Kendrick Bourne, who plays for the Niners now. Their top receiver this year is Nsimba Webster, who had over 180 yards and 4td's today. Bottom line, they can score with anyone, and should be able to move the ball against NDSU, but NDSU usually figures out a way to slow teams like this down just a little bit, while exploding for 40+ themselves. Either way, should be a good game, at least for a while.
Down 21-20 with 2 minutes left Ga Southern converts with about a 30 yard play on 4th and 10 to the EMU 30. They slow things down and only run 2 plays, leaving the ball on the 25 with 2 seconds left for a game winning 42-yard field goal attempt.
Guess what happens next.
Guess what happens next.
