College Football Playoff 24-25: The Dirty Dozen

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Ale Xander

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Is it mathematically possible for the semis to be Clemson Alabam Georgia Ohio State? Asking for a friend
 

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What logic will the "committee" use to put 9-3 Alabama in over 11-2 SMU?
I objectively think Bama is out as a Tide fan.

But it might be best win, since Georgia beat Texas to win the SEC? It's a weak line of logic and one I wouldn't even use, though one you could see the committee using.
 

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SMU better get in or there should be rioting in Dallas. No way you can bounce them for playing in a champ game and losing on a 55 yard FG.
 

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I objectively think Bama is out as a Tide fan.

But it might be best win, since Georgia beat Texas to win the SEC? It's a weak line of logic and one I wouldn't even use, though one you could see the committee using.
Bama is a “brand name” and they do have the UGA win.

I am an SMU grad. I will be fucking stunned if this sham of a committee puts them in the playoffs. Merit only matters if you are going against non-premier colleges.
 

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SMU better get in or there should be rioting in Dallas. No way you can bounce them for playing in a champ game and losing on a 55 yard FG.
Of course…look at those great wins over DukePitt and Cal. They especially should get in after losing to a team that just lost to SC at home.
 

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Chaos …. Love it. Bama should be out but won’t. IU will be ranked too low and Texas will lose to whoever they are matched up with.
 

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You’re an SEC guy aren’t you?
What would make you say that?!?!?!

You nailed it. Bama makes it because of money. The SEC rules doofuses will stick up for it. That’s how we go to the point where we are now where college football is fucked
 

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What would make you say that?!?!?!

You nailed it. Bama makes it because of money. The SEC rules doofuses will stick up for it. That’s how we go to the point where we are now where college football is fucked
Well let’s be clear this was never about merit. It’s about ratings of course. Bama at ND will be an all time ratings winner. SM … who?
 

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Well let’s be clear this was never about merit. It’s about ratings of course. Bama at ND will be an all time ratings winner. SM … who?
Yup. Just don’t pretend like merit has anything to do with it….and this sham committee always does that shit.
 

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What would make you say that?!?!?!

You nailed it. Bama makes it because of money. The SEC rules doofuses will stick up for it. That’s how we go to the point where we are now where college football is fucked
I mean if beating UGA 3 months ago is why Bama gets in then I want my Orange under consideration. We beat GT by more than UGA beat them. Ipso facto we’re better than Bama.
 

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I mean if beating UGA 3 months ago is why Bama gets in then I want my Orange under consideration. We beat GT by more than UGA beat them. Ipso facto we’re better than Bama.
BC beat Syracuse so BC should be in

edi5: dammit Stapleton
 

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Clemson is better than Vandy and Oklahoma. By a lot.
We can play this game all day but Bama’s wins are a lot better than SMU’s.

SMU doesn’t belong and neither does Clemson, but the Championship game thing is the issue. There is obviously no need for championship games with the playoffs, but the money is too important. Thus if you keep the championship games in place then it’s bad precedent to keep SMU out

McDonough was a clown tonight.
 

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I love McDonough talking directly to the committee. Good on him, man.
I guess, except the irony that the committee is serving ESPN, who is like triple dipping -- getting the teams they want in AND getting to milk the controversy for headlines AND sort of getting to pretend like they're above it with guys like McDonough talking tough to the committee.
 

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We can play this game all day but Bama’s wins are a lot better than SMU’s.

SMU doesn’t belong and neither does Clemson, but the Championship game thing is the issue. There is obviously no need for championship games with the playoffs, but the money is too important. Thus if you keep the championship games in place then it’s bad precedent to keep SMU out

McDonough was a clown tonight.
This is quite funny. Losses matter.
 

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We can play this game all day but Bama’s wins are a lot better than SMU’s.

SMU doesn’t belong and neither does Clemson, but the Championship game thing is the issue. There is obviously no need for championship games with the playoffs, but the money is too important. Thus if you keep the championship games in place then it’s bad precedent to keep SMU out

McDonough was a clown tonight.
So who would make it in your 12 team playoff?
 

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That’s funny. So does strength of schedule.
Does it though? Even if you lose the weaker teams in said schedule?

No way I think the committee would have the guts to leave Bama out but these games gave them the reason to do it. Any of the teams would love to play Bama over SMU, IU or ASU that’s for sure.
 

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Alabama is getting n over SMU. This is about TV numbers

Alabama 12 will play at Texas 5 imo. They will pick a Sark vs Debour repeat game plus two massive programs over pony at Texas.
 

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That’s funny. So does strength of schedule.
Which is part of the circular logic of the SEC.

SEC teams are considered good before the season even starts. So the mere act of playing a conference schedule gets people touting a strong SoS.

Bama’s OOC schedule was Western Kentucky, USF, Wisconsin and Mercer. That’s super duper soft.
 

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Alabama is getting n over SMU. This is about TV numbers

Alabama 12 will play at Texas 5 imo. They will pick a Sark vs Debour repeat game plus two massive programs over pony at Texas.
Bama is going to get smoked by whoever they play. I don’t see how they avoid an ND/Bama game. Texas hopes for Bama. IU or ASU would be a terrible matchup.
 

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So who would make it in your 12 team playoff?
Based on what the committee said last week, Alabama in and SMU out.

However, I think the committee will put SMU in and Alabama is out. That directly contradicts their reasoning on Miami last week. At the end of the day SMU was down 17 at halftime and lost to Clemson, despite never once leading.

There are no great teams this year, thanks to NIL and the portal, but the schedules are unbalanced. It’s like we’re going to put two teams from the AL Central just because they bloated their record against the White Sox of the world.
 

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Bama is going to get smoked by whoever they play. I don’t see how they avoid an ND/Bama game. Texas hopes for Bama. IU or ASU would be a terrible matchup.
You keep posting that Bama is getting smoked…I doubt they get in. But I do agree that if they get in they play ND.
 

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Based on what the committee said last week, Alabama in and SMU out.

However, I think the committee will put SMU in and Alabama is out. That directly contradicts their reasoning on Miami last week. At the end of the day SMU was down 17 at halftime and lost to Clemson, despite never once leading.

There are no great teams this year, thanks to NIL and the portal, but the schedules are unbalanced. It’s like we’re going to put two teams from the AL Central just because they bloated their record against the White Sox of the world.
If only Bama could have bloated their record against such mediocrities as Oklahoma and Vanderbilt.
 

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Chaos …. Love it. Bama should be out but won’t. IU will be ranked too low and Texas will lose to whoever they are matched up with.
Coach Cig (IU) said pretty much this during the pre game show on CBS.

In short: if you swapped Michigan’s and IU’s records this season (and their schedule) there is zero chance the committee would rank Michigan in the same spot they have IU currently. (And that can be applied to SMU or any other college in that that committee thinks is not a “name brand”. The committee only cares about brands. and ratings. Which makes the rankings a complete farce

View: https://twitter.com/cbssportscfb/status/1865545136194683324?s=46
 

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You keep posting that Bama is getting smoked…I doubt they get in. But I do agree that if they get in they play ND.
Yes because I don’t think Bama is particularly good. They lose to Miss or SC in their own conference. Committee said no team should be punished for losing their conference champ so SMU would be in no?
 

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Yes because I don’t think Bama is particularly good. They lose to Miss or SC in their own conference. Committee said no team should be punished for losing their conference champ so SMU would be in no?
I’ve said twice I think they will be in, but the committee has said contradictory things over the past week so who knows.
 

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I’ve said twice I think they will be in, but the committee has said contradictory things over the past week so who knows.
People are questioning why YOU think Bama should be in. You’ve yet to address that. And I don’t mean your thinking based off of last weeks CFP rankings (which are absolutely meaningless)
 

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We can play this game all day but Bama’s wins are a lot better than SMU’s.

SMU doesn’t belong and neither does Clemson, but the Championship game thing is the issue. There is obviously no need for championship games with the playoffs, but the money is too important. Thus if you keep the championship games in place then it’s bad precedent to keep SMU out

McDonough was a clown tonight.
Bama’s wins are better but their losses are MUCH worse. And it’s not even that they lost, Oklahoma beat the shit out of this team so thoroughly that it looked like they would win 8/10 matchups.
 

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Can you imagine if this was the four team bracket though?

Oregon and Georgia as locks.

How would you separate Texas, Tennessee, Penn State, Ohio State, Indiana, and Notre Dame for the last two spots? I guess Arizona State too because they’d be competing with all those two loss teams as a Conference Champion.
 

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For whatever it is worth, ESPN has Bama out.

Also, it's going to be pretty interesting that the 3 and 4 seeds are going to be underdogs in the 2nd round. But perhaps that is kind of by design of the system.
 

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I am looking forward to seeing how things play out no matter who is in. I think the Big Ten is top heavy but their top is good. SEC is deeper but all beatable and ASU is a good team. Best thing for the football system would be for 3 or 4 SEC teams to lose their first games and dispel the notion that somehow they are way ahead of all others.
 

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I am looking forward to seeing how things play out no matter who is in. I think the Big Ten is top heavy but their top is good. SEC is deeper but all beatable and ASU is a good team. Best thing for the football system would be for 3 or 4 SEC teams to lose their first games and dispel the notion that somehow they are way ahead of all others.
Agree, especially if Bama gets in and no SEC teams face each other in the first round, would not be a great look to see the SEC dominate this thing.
 

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Not that it matters, but the AP poll has Bama 11 and SMU 12.
And Clemson 13. Shows you what the conference championship games really mean…absolutely nothing. They are a money maker and relic of a system that is not in sync with the current playoff format. Not really fair to anyone, especially the players. If committee wanted to make a statement they keep SMU out and blow up the Conference championship structure. That’s what they should do since they can’t keep Clemson out. They don’t do that and put 2 ACC teams in.
 

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And Clemson 13. Shows you what the conference championship games really mean…absolutely nothing. They are a money maker and relic of a system that is not in sync with the current playoff format. Not really fair to anyone, especially the players. If committee wanted to make a statement they keep SMU out and blow up the Conference championship structure. That’s what they should do since they can’t keep Clemson out. They don’t do that and put 2 ACC teams in.
Every single sports league in America does this with division championships and preferred seeding. Besides, the conferences have all the power. The CFP will be dissolved before the conference championship games are.
 
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